Fuel Hindi Evaluation Meet
by Rajesh Ranjan
Hi,
A workshop on standardizing frequently used terminology is being organized
in Pune next weekend. This will evaluate and discuss about
600 terms commonly used in GUI of different important applications. In the
list, important words are selected from firefox and openoffice also.
FUEL (Frequently Used Entries for Localization) aims at solving the Problem
of Inconsistency and Lack of standardization in Computer Software
Translation across the platform for all Indic Languages. It will try to
provide a standardized and consistent look of computer for a language
computer users. Fuel Hindi Evaluation Meet is a move to discuss the problem
and come with the translation of an entries list created by choosing
frequently used entries from important applications.
*Date: *
12-13 July 2008 (10am - 6pm)
*Venue: *
Red Hat Software Services (India) Pvt. Ltd.
6th Floor, East Wing,
Marisoft-III,
Marigold premises
Kalyani Nagar
Pune, India - 411 014
Tel : +91 20 4005 7300
(Nearby Adlabs Gold in Kalyani Nagar.)
Please be at venue around 9.30 AM.
*Fuel Hindi Evaluation Meet Schedule*
------------------------
Saturday, 12 July 2008
Day I:
10:00 -10:30 Meet and Greet
10:30 -11:00 FUEL - An Introduction
11:00 -11:30 Fuel Hindi : List of Entries - Discussions
11:30 -11:45 TEABREAK
11:45 -13:00 Fuel Hindi : Discussions (continued)
13:00 -14:00 LUNCH
14:00 -15:30 Fuel Hindi : Discussions (continued)
15:30 -15:45 TEABREAK
15:45 -17:00 Fuel Hindi : Discussions (continued)
17:00 -18:00 Deciding those Words that need more attention
Sunday, 13 July 2008
Day II:
10:00 -11:30 Working on words that need attention
11:30 -11:45 TEABREAK
11:45 -13:00 Preparing final replacements for words need to be changed
13:00 -14:00 LUNCH
14:00 -15:45 Fuel Hindi : Final list Preparation
15:45 -16:00 TEABREAK
16:00 -17:30 Fuel Hindi : Final list Preparation and it's public
availability
17:30 -18:00 Summary
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Regards,
Rajesh Ranjan
www.kramashah.blogspot.com
15 years, 4 months
Re: Defining Minimum Criteria for I18N Support
by Ankit Patel
Rahul Bhalerao wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I think the term 'Language Support' has been used in more vague sense
> so far (please correct me if I am wrong). Also there has been a
> difference between a language being supported technically and a
> language that is supported with all the localization. Thus there has
> been a need to define the terms with more clarity. I think it would be
> good if we have two different sections for a language support namely,
> i18n and l10n.
>
> Recently I have tried to formulate a minimum criteria for a language
> to have "I18N Support". The same is documented here:
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/LanguageSupportCriteria
>
> On the same lines we may even have similar criteria for l10n support.
> I would like all to do a little review of the above and provide some
> feedback so that we could finalize this.
>
> Thanks,
>
Hi everyone,
It's really good idea posted on the list, and we should also have
defined the criteria in terms of l10n like i18n does.
Are we going to have any FLP meeting this month?
If yes, we can include the "$subject" in the discussion topics to define
the criteria...
Thanks!
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http://www.indianoss.org/
15 years, 4 months
Re: Defining Minimum Criteria for I18N Support
by Ankit Patel
Rahul Bhalerao wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I think the term 'Language Support' has been used in more vague sense
> so far (please correct me if I am wrong). Also there has been a
> difference between a language being supported technically and a
> language that is supported with all the localization. Thus there has
> been a need to define the terms with more clarity. I think it would be
> good if we have two different sections for a language support namely,
> i18n and l10n.
>
> Recently I have tried to formulate a minimum criteria for a language
> to have "I18N Support". The same is documented here:
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/LanguageSupportCriteria
>
> On the same lines we may even have similar criteria for l10n support.
> I would like all to do a little review of the above and provide some
> feedback so that we could finalize this.
>
> Thanks,
>
Hi Rahul,
Thanks for taking an initiative to define the criteria for language
support. However, I am not sure whether the term (Language Support) used
over here is correct or not. Because any package or feature of the
application included in Fedora have any specific criteria for *support*.
The criteria defined on the above URL could be called as a *Language
Inclusion Criteria* in terms of I18n and L10n both instead of *Language
Support Criteria*. Anyways, FLP team would be happy to define the
Language Inclusion Criteria in terms of L10n I think.
I could be wrong here, please correct me if I am. Because as far as I
know, for Fedora, "Support" means voluntary help from community
contributors through mailing lists, forums or IRC. That's it, I think!
No specific criteria for it.
So, let's hear the inputs from other members on this thread!
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Regards,
Ankit Patel
--------------------------
http://www.indianoss.org/
15 years, 4 months
Re: Defining Minimum Criteria for I18N Support
by Sankarshan (সঙ্কর্ষণ)
On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 11:42 AM, Rahul Bhalerao <b.rahul.pm(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Recently I have tried to formulate a minimum criteria for a language
> to have "I18N Support". The same is documented here:
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/LanguageSupportCriteria
If the above URL is a proposal - do please mention as such on the page.
~sankarshan
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15 years, 4 months
CH Bug Re: Fedora-trans-list Digest, Vol 53, Issue 9
by Boris Zhang
Hi, CH translators:
For CH UI for Fedora 9, I found a bad date translation "XX 月月 XX
日" in login window.
Is there anybody to deal with it?
Thanks and best regards,
Boris
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> Summary: Transifex module for kf request
> Product: Fedora Localization
> Version: unspecified
> Platform: All
> OS/Version: Linux
> Status: NEW
> Severity: low
> Priority: low
> Component: l10n-requests
> AssignedTo: dimitris(a)glezos.com
> ReportedBy: lkundrak(a)v3.sk
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> Module name: kf
> Description: kf Jabber Client
> Project webpage: https://fedorahosted.org/kf/
> VCS root,module,branch: svn+ssh://svn.fedorahosted.org/svn/kf/trunk
> File filter: po/.*\.po
> Changelog file (if applicable): ChangeLog
> Web front-end to VCS: https://fedorahosted.org/kf/browser/trunk/po
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> Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 08:50:53 +0330
> From: "Amir Farsi" <amir1368(a)gmail.com>
> Subject: ApproveMeInTranslationCVSCommitGroup
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> Hello dear friends.
> My name is Amir Farsi. I want to be a member of ¥cvsl10n¥ group,
> because i
> want to be the coordinator of Persian(fa) tranlation group.
> I want to tranlate fedora project web site and fedora operating
> system to
> persian. I want start the persian language translation in fedora
> project.
> I does do most of steps in ¥L10Join¥ which are in wiki page. I
> signed for
> mailing list, fedora accounting system, BugZilla, Wiki and orther
> things.
> Please approve my request for be a member of ¥∆VSL10N¥ group. and
> also
> please help me to how i can be the coordinator of Persian(fa) Language
> group.,
> Please help me.
> Thanks very much
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> From: Mostafa Daneshvar <mostafa(a)daneshvar.org.uk>
> Subject: Re: ApproveMeInTranslationCVSCommitGroup
> To: fedora-trans-list(a)redhat.com
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> On Panj shanbe 20 Tir 1387 09:50:53 Amir Farsi wrote:
>> Hello dear friends.
>> My name is Amir Farsi. I want to be a member of ´cvsl10n´
>> group, because i
>> want to be the coordinator of Persian(fa) tranlation group.
>> I want to tranlate fedora project web site and fedora operating
>> system to
>> persian. I want start the persian language translation in fedora
>> project.
>> I does do most of steps in ´L10Join´ which are in wiki page. I
>> signed for
>> mailing list, fedora accounting system, BugZilla, Wiki and orther
>> things.
>> Please approve my request for be a member of ´ĆVSL10N´
>> group. and also
>> please help me to how i can be the coordinator of Persian(fa)
>> Language
>> group.,
>> Please help me.
>> Thanks very much
>
> Welcome Amir to Fedora Project.
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15 years, 4 months
ApproveMeInTranslationCVSCommitGroup
by Amir Farsi
Hello dear friends.
My name is Amir Farsi. I want to be a member of ´cvsl10n´ group, because i
want to be the coordinator of Persian(fa) tranlation group.
I want to tranlate fedora project web site and fedora operating system to
persian. I want start the persian language translation in fedora project.
I does do most of steps in ´L10Join´ which are in wiki page. I signed for
mailing list, fedora accounting system, BugZilla, Wiki and orther things.
Please approve my request for be a member of ´ĆVSL10N´ group. and also
please help me to how i can be the coordinator of Persian(fa) Language
group.,
Please help me.
Thanks very much
15 years, 4 months
New Tajik Language for Fedora Localization Project
by Victor Ibragimov
To Whom It May Concern,
Hi,
My name is Victor Ibragimov, a lead translator and co-ordinator for
Tajik KDE Team. I would like to be a co-ordinator of Tajik language for
Fedora Project.
Hope my KDE experience will be a great asset for Fedora Localization and
Internationalization Project. Looks like the first-step requirements to
start a Tajik team for Fedora localization is successfully completed.
Can anybody of Fedora Localization Community so kindly provide a
detailed guidance on how to better start the translations and commit PO
files, adding the Tajik language (tg) to next Fedora release.
Here is some information posted at Bugzilla:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=453770
Thanks for assistance to get it started!
Victor.
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Tajik Team of Fedora Localization Project
15 years, 4 months
[Bug 454183] New: Mistake in translation on Russian
by Red Hat Bugzilla
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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=454183
Summary: Mistake in translation on Russian
Product: Fedora Localization
Version: unspecified
Platform: All
URL: http://www.dkws.org.ua/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?p=13647#1364
7
OS/Version: Linux
Status: NEW
Severity: low
Priority: low
Component: Other language
AssignedTo: dimitris(a)glezos.com
ReportedBy: dhsilabs(a)mail.ru
QAContact: aalam(a)redhat.com
CC: fedora-trans-list(a)redhat.com
Description of problem:
In configurator system-config-printer, on tab Параметры, when the printer is
chosen by default a field Принтер по умолчанию contains a line "Это принтера по
умолчанию". It is wrong. It is necessary "Это принтер по умолчанию"
On tab Параметры принтера not all names of parameters are translated to Russian
The screenshots:
http://www.dkws.org.ua/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?p=13647#13647
Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable):
8,9
How reproducible:
Steps to Reproduce:
1. It is necessary to correct a mistake, as was marked above
2. It is necessary to translate parameters on Параметры принтера tab
3.
Actual results:
Expected results:
Additional info:
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15 years, 5 months
Some strings are not appropiate for being translated correctly
by Xavi Conde
Hi,
first of all, I'm sorry to send this transifex bug report to the list,
however the project page doesn't provide a correct bugzilla account to
do it.
Description of problem:
There are some strings in the transifex POT that don't allow to be
translated correctly. They're chunks of bigger sentences, out of
context and out of order, so it isn't always clear how to translate
them. Here I've compiled these strings:
#: transifex/templates/index.kid:code
#, fuzzy
msgid ""
"server,\n"
"which supports CVS, Subversion, git, and VCSs. Any module on any VCS
could be served."
#: transifex/templates/maintainers-info.kid:li
#, fuzzy
msgid "Check out the"
#: transifex/templates/maintainers-info.kid:p
#, fuzzy
msgid ""
"If you are a project maintainer, you can have the Fedora's translation\n"
" community contribute translations to your project easily. The basic idea\n"
" is that you create a special user on your"
#: transifex/templates/master.kid:p
#, fuzzy
msgid ""
"Copyright (c) 2007 Red Hat, Inc. and others. All Rights Reserved.\n"
" Please send any comments or corrections to the"
#: transifex/templates/moduleinfo.kid:a
#, fuzzy
msgid ""
"as a Fedora translator,\n"
" you'll be presented with a file submission form."
#: transifex/templates/moduleinfo.kid:p
#, fuzzy
msgid "Once you"
#: transifex/templates/modulelist.kid:a
#, fuzzy
msgid ", or view an"
#: transifex/templates/modulelist.kid:a
#, fuzzy
msgid "by repository"
#: transifex/templates/modulepreview.kid:p
#, fuzzy
msgid "The following message will be used for submitting the file to the"
#: transifex/templates/submit_file.kid:code
#, fuzzy
msgid ""
", for cvs, svn, hg, and git respectively. If you\n"
" want to submit a file to an older branch, use the appropriate set\n"
" of controls and leave the others empty."
#: transifex/templates/submit_file.kid:code
#, fuzzy
msgid ""
"in this module's\n"
" repository."
#: transifex/templates/submit_file.kid:em
#, fuzzy
msgid ""
"file. Your submission will trigger an automatic\n"
" update of the file"
#: transifex/templates/translators-info.kid:a
#, fuzzy
msgid ""
"contain direct links to PO files of projects. Or, you might have
received a PO file by email.\n"
" As long as you have a PO file to translate and submit! :-)"
#: transifex/templates/translators-info.kid:a
#, fuzzy
msgid ""
"with your Fedora Account System username and password. You need to be
a member\n"
" of the"
#: transifex/templates/translators-info.kid:a
#, fuzzy
msgid ""
"you want your file to be submitted\n"
" to. Select the file from your system, choose a destination,
write a changelog entry, and click\n"
" 'Preview'."
#: transifex/templates/translators-info.kid:code
#, fuzzy
msgid ""
"group to be able to submit translations. If you aren't already a
member of our translations group,\n"
" read"
#: transifex/templates/translators-info.kid:dd
#, fuzzy
msgid ""
"Translate the file, make corrections, etc. Be aware that some projects might\n"
" not auto-merge the POT file with the PO ones, so you may need
to download the POT file as well\n"
" and merge them together with"
Plese ensure POT file contains entire string paragraphs, so it makes
translators work easier.
Thanks in advance!
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15 years, 5 months