I find tooltips on the panel at the bottom of the screen distracting, and would like to disable as many as I can. For the task manager, there's an option in its context menu. Is there a way to turn off tooltips for launchers and the pager as well?
Am 27.11.2015 um 14:31 schrieb Glenn Holmer:
I find tooltips on the panel at the bottom of the screen distracting, and would like to disable as many as I can. For the task manager, there's an option in its context menu. Is there a way to turn off tooltips for launchers and the pager as well?
oh yeah, or at least they could be fixed not appear that long just because you moved the mouse somwhere near for a short time
On Friday 27 Nov 2015 7:31:31 AM Glenn Holmer wrote:
Is there a way to turn off tooltips for launchers and the pager as well?
At least on my system launchers are part of taskbar so disabling taskbar tooltips also disables launchers' tooltip. If you add an item to panel then there are no tool tip settings.
Am 27.11.2015 um 15:20 schrieb Sudhir Khanger:
On Friday 27 Nov 2015 7:31:31 AM Glenn Holmer wrote:
Is there a way to turn off tooltips for launchers and the pager as well?
At least on my system launchers are part of taskbar so disabling taskbar tooltips also disables launchers' tooltip. If you add an item to panel then there are no tool tip settings
it's completly inconsistent
* the launchers don#t have * the menu has * show desktop has * the systray has
the problem are not the tooltips but that they (especially in the systray) don#t go away often long after you moved the mouse far away and so you have to move it there again, move around, having falsjing mutiple tooltips sometimes and sooner or later you manage them to creep away
On 11/27/2015 08:20 AM, Sudhir Khanger wrote:
On Friday 27 Nov 2015 7:31:31 AM Glenn Holmer wrote:
Is there a way to turn off tooltips for launchers and the pager as well?
At least on my system launchers are part of taskbar so disabling taskbar tooltips also disables launchers' tooltip. If you add an item to panel then there are no tool tip settings.
Where is that setting?
On Friday 27 Nov 2015 8:42:42 AM Glenn Holmer wrote:
Where is that setting?
If you have disabled taskbar tool tips then you won't see tool tips in launchers.
You may modify taskbar tool tip in right-click-on-taskbar>Taskbar Manager Settings>Behavior>Show tooltips.
Sudhir Khanger wrote:
If you have disabled taskbar tool tips then you won't see tool tips in launchers.
Where is that setting?
You may modify taskbar tool tip in right-click-on-taskbar>Taskbar Manager Settings>Behavior>Show tooltips.
1) Tooltips work fine for me everywhere in the panel; they disappear as soon as I move off the icon in question. Maybe this is because I am using an IBM/Lenovo pointer rather than a mouse?
2) I'm never quite sure what is meant by "taskbar". It seems to be used sometimes as a synonym for "panel", and at other times for the part of the panel showing current tasks. I assume the latter meaning is intended here, as I only see "Taskbar Manager Settings" when I right-click on one of the rectangles showing current tasks. However, tooltips seem to work in exactly the same way on all icons in the panel.
On 11/27/2015 09:36 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote:
Sudhir Khanger wrote:
If you have disabled taskbar tool tips then you won't see tool tips in launchers.
Where is that setting?
You may modify taskbar tool tip in right-click-on-taskbar>Taskbar Manager Settings>Behavior>Show tooltips.
- I'm never quite sure what is meant by "taskbar".
It seems to be used sometimes as a synonym for "panel", and at other times for the part of the panel showing current tasks. I assume the latter meaning is intended here, as I only see "Taskbar Manager Settings" when I right-click on one of the rectangles showing current tasks.
I have no idea what *either* of you are talking about. I'm talking about the panel at the bottom of the screen, which contains the application menu, pager for virtual desktops, launchers, task manager (running programs) and on the far right, the system tray.
I've tried to click everywhere including in between things, and I don't see "Taskbar Manager Settings" anywhere. I do see "TASK Manager Settings", but disabling tooltips there does not affect the application menu, the pager, the launchers, or the system tray.
Maybe I should have said so at the start, but this is on F23 KDE/Plasma 5 (with all patches applied).
Glenn Holmer wrote:
If you have disabled taskbar tool tips then you won't see tool tips in launchers.
Where is that setting?
You may modify taskbar tool tip in right-click-on-taskbar>Taskbar Manager Settings>Behavior>Show tooltips.
- I'm never quite sure what is meant by "taskbar".
It seems to be used sometimes as a synonym for "panel", and at other times for the part of the panel showing current tasks. I assume the latter meaning is intended here, as I only see "Taskbar Manager Settings" when I right-click on one of the rectangles showing current tasks.
I have no idea what *either* of you are talking about. I'm talking about the panel at the bottom of the screen, which contains the application menu, pager for virtual desktops, launchers, task manager (running programs) and on the far right, the system tray.
I've tried to click everywhere including in between things, and I don't see "Taskbar Manager Settings" anywhere. I do see "TASK Manager Settings", but disabling tooltips there does not affect the application menu, the pager, the launchers, or the system tray.
I should have said "Task Manager Settings" not "Taskbar Manager Settings". I see this option if I right click on any "task", which I take to refer to the rectangles containing icons describing activities in various virtual desktops, eg (in my case) bash, knode, firefox, etc. I assume the term "taskbar" refers to this portion of the panel.
If I go to Task Manager Settings, and switch off the option "Show tooltips" I no longer see tooltips for the tasks (five at the moment in my case) but I still see tooltips for all the other icons/widgets in the panel, eg the clock.
Maybe I should have said so at the start, but this is on F23 KDE/Plasma 5 (with all patches applied).
On 11/28/2015 06:17 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote:
Glenn Holmer wrote:
I have no idea what *either* of you are talking about. I'm talking about the panel at the bottom of the screen, which contains the application menu, pager for virtual desktops, launchers, task manager (running programs) and on the far right, the system tray.
I've tried to click everywhere including in between things, and I don't see "Taskbar Manager Settings" anywhere. I do see "TASK Manager Settings", but disabling tooltips there does not affect the application menu, the pager, the launchers, or the system tray.
I should have said "Task Manager Settings" not "Taskbar Manager Settings". I see this option if I right click on any "task", which I take to refer to the rectangles containing icons describing activities in various virtual desktops, eg (in my case) bash, knode, firefox, etc. I assume the term "taskbar" refers to this portion of the panel.
If I go to Task Manager Settings, and switch off the option "Show tooltips" I no longer see tooltips for the tasks (five at the moment in my case) but I still see tooltips for all the other icons/widgets in the panel, eg the clock.
...which is exactly what I said, so we're back to square one. Does anyone know how to disable the rest of the tooltips?
On Saturday 28 Nov 2015 08:36:39 Glenn Holmer wrote:
On 11/28/2015 06:17 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote:
Glenn Holmer wrote:
I have no idea what *either* of you are talking about. I'm talking about the panel at the bottom of the screen, which contains the application menu, pager for virtual desktops, launchers, task manager (running programs) and on the far right, the system tray.
I've tried to click everywhere including in between things, and I don't see "Taskbar Manager Settings" anywhere. I do see "TASK Manager Settings", but disabling tooltips there does not affect the application menu, the pager, the launchers, or the system tray.
I should have said "Task Manager Settings" not "Taskbar Manager Settings". I see this option if I right click on any "task", which I take to refer to the rectangles containing icons describing activities in various virtual desktops, eg (in my case) bash, knode, firefox, etc. I assume the term "taskbar" refers to this portion of the panel.
If I go to Task Manager Settings, and switch off the option "Show tooltips" I no longer see tooltips for the tasks (five at the moment in my case) but I still see tooltips for all the other icons/widgets in the panel, eg the clock.
...which is exactly what I said, so we're back to square one. Does anyone know how to disable the rest of the tooltips?
How about :-
System Settings > Desktop Behaviour > Workspace and un-check informational tips
Colin
Am 28.11.2015 um 15:47 schrieb Colin J Thomson:
On Saturday 28 Nov 2015 08:36:39 Glenn Holmer wrote:
If I go to Task Manager Settings, and switch off the option "Show tooltips" I no longer see tooltips for the tasks (five at the moment in my case) but I still see tooltips for all the other icons/widgets in the panel, eg the clock.
...which is exactly what I said, so we're back to square one. Does anyone know how to disable the rest of the tooltips?
How about :-
System Settings > Desktop Behaviour > Workspace and un-check informational tips
how about realize that this also disables preview and fileinformations in folderview and system-information widgets because there is a weird mix of where settings are applied
controlbar behavior != desktop itself
On Saturday 28 Nov 2015 4:30:17 PM Reindl Harald wrote:
how about realize that this also disables preview and fileinformations in folderview and system-information widgets because there is a weird mix of where settings are applied
controlbar behavior != desktop itself
Yep that option is using hammer instead of scissors.
What needs to done is to file bug reports against individual items that don't provide tool tip disabling option. And also file a bug report if tool tips seem to overtake the focus. Except the the taskbar tooltips/window preview, which can be disabled easily, I don't think that's the case at least on my system.
On 11/28/2015 01:21 PM, Sudhir Khanger wrote:
On Saturday 28 Nov 2015 4:30:17 PM Reindl Harald wrote:
how about realize that this also disables preview and fileinformations in folderview and system-information widgets because there is a weird mix of where settings are applied
controlbar behavior != desktop itself
Yep that option is using hammer instead of scissors.
Agreed, but I'm tired of fighting with Plasma 5. I'm reaching the point where I just want to smack it with that hammer and hope it will do something vaguely close to what I have in mind. If parts of the square peg get sheared off when I pound it into the round hole, that may be something I have to live with.
Glenn Holmer wrote:
I'm tired of fighting with Plasma 5. I'm reaching the point where I just want to smack it with that hammer and hope it will do something vaguely close to what I have in mind.
Tooltips work for me exactly as they are meant to - they do not linger when I move away from a panel icon. Of course that does not show that they work properly for others. But it does suggest that there is probably a problem that can be solved.
Nobody in this thread has described precisely their issue with tooltips. Do they actually interfere with your computer usage, or are they just something you dislike?
On 11/29/2015 06:29 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote:
Glenn Holmer wrote:
I'm tired of fighting with Plasma 5. I'm reaching the point where I just want to smack it with that hammer and hope it will do something vaguely close to what I have in mind.
Tooltips work for me exactly as they are meant to - they do not linger when I move away from a panel icon. Of course that does not show that they work properly for others. But it does suggest that there is probably a problem that can be solved.
Nobody in this thread has described precisely their issue with tooltips. Do they actually interfere with your computer usage, or are they just something you dislike?
For the most part, I just find them distracting and annoying. I don't need tooltips on the launchers or the task bar because the icons already tell me the story. Even the pager (I use eight virtual desktops) doesn't need them if you have icons turned on there. So if I trigger them accidentally (e.g. moving the mouse to the bottom of the window to cancel a run in NetBeans), they just get in the way.
I do agree with Sudhir's comment about hammer vs scissors, though; I would have liked to keep the tooltips on the clock and weather widgets.
I don't generally find that they stay visible for too long, although I have had that experience with the clock (where I had to mouse back over it and then away again to make it disappear).
On 11/28/2015 08:47 AM, Colin J Thomson wrote:
On Saturday 28 Nov 2015 08:36:39 Glenn Holmer wrote:
...which is exactly what I said, so we're back to square one. Does anyone know how to disable the rest of the tooltips?
How about :-
System Settings > Desktop Behaviour > Workspace and un-check informational tips
Thanks, that's exactly what I was looking for.
Glenn Holmer shadowm@lyonlabs.org wrote on 28.11.2015 15:36:39:
On 11/28/2015 06:17 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote:
Glenn Holmer wrote:
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If I go to Task Manager Settings, and switch off the option "Show
tooltips"
I no longer see tooltips for the tasks (five at the moment in my case) but I still see tooltips for all the other icons/widgets in the panel, eg the clock.
...which is exactly what I said, so we're back to square one. Does anyone know how to disable the rest of the tooltips?
Go to System Settings > Workspace > Desktop Behavior > Workspace and deselect "Show Informational Tips"
This disables tooltips for the Menu, the desktop pager, the System Tray, and the clock. (I'm on Fedora 22)
I agree that it would be better to have all desktop tooltip settings in one place.
Regards, Fredy Neeser IBM Zurich Research Lab
Glenn Holmer wrote:
If I go to Task Manager Settings, and switch off the option "Show tooltips" I no longer see tooltips for the tasks (five at the moment in my case) but I still see tooltips for all the other icons/widgets in the panel, eg the clock.
...which is exactly what I said, so we're back to square one. Does anyone know how to disable the rest of the tooltips?
I'm sorry, I misunderstood you. You said "I'm talking about the panel at the bottom of the screen" but then you went on to talk about the Task Manager Settings, which led me to believe you thought the taskbar was the whole panel.
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