kde December 2019

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How to set default session type to Plasma for sddm
by Roderick Johnstone 29 Oct '21

29 Oct '21

Hi How do I set the default session type for sddm to offer to be Plasma? I'm currently getting Gnome Classic? This is F22. Thanks Roderick Johnstone

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Crashes
by Steve Grubb 04 Aug '20

04 Aug '20

Hello, I was curious about something. KDE has its own crash handling system. How does this community track any metrics around code stability if upstream gets reports? Kontact has segfaulted 20 times on me today. Each time it says it cannot generate a bug report. Abrtd does not seem to pick up anything. Shouldn't it? How does this community track when a recent update suddenly starts making things crash? Kontact was fine 3 weeks ago. I updated today (3 weeks of patches) and its crashing all the time to the point its unusable. It won't generate a bug report, abrtd seems not to notice either. -Steve

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nntp (aka, usenet) client in kde?
by Gene Smith 07 Feb '20

07 Feb '20

I currently use t-bird with an nntp account pointing to gmane to read this list and sereral others. Does kde have an nntp client program of any sort? I don't see it as a possible new account type in kmail. Also, search with kpackagekit yields nothing with "usenet" or "nntp" that is kde specific. -gene

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KDE EPEL8 plan
by Troy Dawson 31 Jan '20

31 Jan '20

My apologies for not listening to others about KDE on EPEL8. As promised, this will be an open discussion. What I propose will just be a suggestion. People have correctly pointed out that it would be best if we do not have the main KDE in epel8 be a module. It would make things more stable and compatible if we used the QT5 packages from RHEL8 as our basis, and go from there. With that in mind, these are the things that I think are good ideas. * No kde4 or kde3 * Follow the KDE LTS branches as much as possible. ** qt5 *** There are about 10 packages that have to stay at 5.11 due to RHEL's packages. The rest get built with 5.12.x *** If RHEL8 updates their qt5, adjust with them. *** https://download.qt.io/official_releases/qt/5.12/ ** plasma *** Follow the same LTS stream as qt5 (currently 5.12) *** https://download.kde.org/stable/plasma/5.12.9/ ** kf5 *** Pick a stream and stick with it ?? *** I don't know of kf5 having an LTS stream. *** Try to keep all the kf5 packages at the same stream *** https://download.kde.org/stable/frameworks/ ** KDE apps *** Let the version be the decision of each app maintainer ??? * For qt5, plasma and kf5, have a group be the the maintainer. * For the apps, let it be maintained by either a group or individual. Depending on the app. What do people think? Troy

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GTK apps not shown in pager
by Ian Pilcher 26 Dec '19

26 Dec '19

Not sure when this started, but I've noticed that some(?) GTK application windows are not shown in my plasma pager. Thus far, I've seen this with Firefox, Thunderbird, and virt-manager. These windows *are* listed in the pager's tooltip, so it seems to be aware that the windows exist. For some reason, however, it's not showing the window outlines. Anyone else? -- ======================================================================== Ian Pilcher arequipeno(a)gmail.com -------- "I grew up before Mark Zuckerberg invented friendship" -------- ========================================================================

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Qt 5.13.2 coming updates-testing
by Jan Grulich 19 Dec '19

19 Dec '19

Hi, I just finished update to Qt 5.13.2 for Fedora 31. It's currently being pushed to updates-testing and should be available in the repository anytime soon. I just did the update locally and it seems to work just fine (using Plasma on Wayland), but any additional feedback is welcomed. Update link: https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2019-1571a44ff7[1] Regards, Jan -------- [1] https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2019-1571a44ff7

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Qt apps in Fedora 31 (GNOME / Wayland)
by mario futire 16 Dec '19

16 Dec '19

There are outstanding issues in all Qt apps when they run in the default Fedora 31 desktop which is GNOME / Wayland. 1) Drag & Drop does not work (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1774762, https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-80303) 2) Qt creator become almost useless without drag & drop 3) Window geometry cannot be restored (https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-80612) All in all it makes a very bad user experience with what is a big GUI framework in the default F31 desktop. I think the major issue is that these bugs end up in no man's land: 1) Qt GNOME X11: all fine 2) Qt KDE Wayland: all fine So is the bug in Qt? Mutter? Wayland? Users are not even aware of what is a Qt app and what not. I have written in the main users mailing list and was told to try here https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org… I think that in this state Qt apps should not be allowed to run in Wayland under GNOME (by default). What do you think?

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KDE and GDM
by mario futire 14 Dec '19

14 Dec '19

I've been a KDE user for many years and have just recently switched to GNOME, for what is basically a single reason: GDM. GDM in my opinion offers a fantastic user experience with a super simple "user switch" feature. In family we all use the same PC so people are constantly switching user. What happens when I run KDE in GDM or in its own login manager is something like this: 1) switch user 2) end up in a screen with various (dubious) icons, with "user name", a "+", a "create new session" button, an "unused" session?? 3) press some of them a bit randomly till I finally go back to the GDM login In GNOME this is super slick as the step 2) is completely removed. "Switch user" takes you immediately to the user list. Can this be achieved in KDE?

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Konsole and X11 operands
by George R Goffe 13 Dec '19

13 Dec '19

Hi, "my" Konsole (konsole5-19.08.3-1.fc32.x86_64) doesn't seem to understand X11 operands... Didn't it sort of obey them in earlier releases? I seem to recall a discussion on what the units of measure for "-geometry". Did this capability get removed or is this a bug/feature? Thanks, George...

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KDE EPEL8 module plan
by Troy Dawson 12 Dec '19

12 Dec '19

Hi, As the final bugs of modularity in EPEL 8 get worked out, I'm working on the plan for the kde modules. Right now, I'm leaning towards a great big kde module with all the kde packages in it. There would be two streams. rawhide and stable. rawhide would follow the fedora master dist-git branch. It would get updated at least once a month, or faster. No quicker than ever two weeks, because that's how long it takes for things to go through bodhi. I'm leaning towards once a month. stable would follow the stable Fxx branch, and get updated every three months, or when security and/or major bugs happen. The modules would have *all* the qt5 packages in them, including those that are in RHEL8. Because of this, we will not be able to mark them as "default". People will have to enable them to use them. I am currently working my way through all the packages, making sure they build and making fixes in rawhide/master when they don't. I think there should only be about 15 to 20 packages that need tweaking. Thoughts and/or comments? Troy Dawson

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