On 11 August 2015 at 17:56, Dan Mossor <danofsatx(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On 08/06/2015 10:20 AM, Rex Dieter wrote:
> Based on our prior kde-sig meeting, we'd tentatively agreed to pursue
> considering using a default browser different than konqueror.
> I'm proposing we consider using firefox by default instead.
> Secondary proposal: keep konqueror installed as a secondary browser (and
> file manager, etc). It's runtime footprint is only ~6mb.
> I asked some Plasma workgroup member(1) members for votes on irc, and
> without documented votes yet include:
> Martin Bříza (mbriza): no vote
> Kevin Kofler (Kevin_Kofler): no vote
> Than Ngo (than): no vote
> Lukáš Tinkl (ltinkl): no vote
> Dan Vrátil (dvratil): no vote
> This message is a call for formal +1/-1 vote from these folks.
> Please limit this mailing list thread to votes only, and start new
> if you wish to continue discussing the the pros/cons on the topic.
> -- Rex
I missed today's meeting due to $dayjob duties, but I wanted to take a
moment to note that after careful, deep consideration, I feel this is the
wrong way to go.
Granted, installing an alternative browser is one of the first things most
folks do after discovering that the only thing available is Konquerer, but
that is a conscious choice by the user - a choice that they may not realize
then pollutes their beautiful Qt based desktop with GTk cruft.
The correct avenue here, in light of the news from the upstream products, is
to keep the status quo regardless of the lack of usability. When we finally
get a fully-featured Qt based browser, that is when we switch. We DO NOT
switch to a GTk based browser that has zero integration with the Plasma
desktop - single click selection of files and directories within Firefox
doesn't even work, let alone the theming and other issues. Ironically, those
two items, as well as integration with kWallet, work fine with Google Chrome
(which is not a choice in this discussion).
Well, there was a third option: don't ship a browser. If Konqueror is
not suitable and only a KDE application could be shipped then that
would have been the thing to do. However I use a KDE desktop (but not
the KDE spin) and Firefox, and I don't find myself thinking whenever I
log in, "I really wish this was better integrated with Plasma". The
first I will do when Firefox gets kwallet integration is find out how
to turn it off.