* open some textfiles * close one of them with changes * say discard changes * kate closes * repeatly
Oct 3 03:55:01 srv-rhsoft kernel: kate[20510]: segfault at 0 ip 00007f6ad7169358 sp 00007ffd957e45d0 error 4 in libkdeinit5_kate.so[7f6ad7124000+b5000] Oct 3 03:55:15 srv-rhsoft systemd-coredump: Process 20510 (kate) of user 500 dumped core.#012#012Stack trace of thread 20510:#012#0 0x00007f6ad7169358 _ZN14KateMainWindow19queueModifiedOnDiscEPN11KTextEditor8DocumentE (libkdeinit5_kate.so)#012#1 0x00007f6ad71b3bed _ZN14KateMainWindow18qt_static_metacallEP7QObjectN11QMetaObject4CallEiPPv (libkdeinit5_kate.so)#012#2 0x00007f6ad1213021 _ZN7QObject5eventEP6QEvent (libQt5Core.so.5)#012#3 0x00007f6ad25b832b _ZN7QWidget5eventEP6QEvent (libQt5Widgets.so.5)#012#4 0x00007f6ad26ce30b _ZN11QMainWindow5eventEP6QEvent (libQt5Widgets.so.5)#012#5 0x00007f6ad58d149a _ZN11KMainWindow5eventEP6QEvent (libKF5XmlGui.so.5)#012#6 0x00007f6ad591c665 _ZN13KXmlGuiWindow5eventEP6QEvent (libKF5XmlGui.so.5)#012#7 0x00007f6ad25754ac _ZN19QApplicationPrivate13notify_helperEP7QObjectP6QEvent (libQt5Widgets.so.5)#012#8 0x00007f6ad257a976 _ZN12QApplication6notifyEP7QObjectP6QEvent (libQt5Widgets.so.5)#012#9 0x00007f6ad11e361b _ZN16QCoreApplication14notifyInternalEP7QObjectP6QEvent (libQt5Core.so.5)#012#10 0x00007f6ad11e5a16 _ZN23QCoreApplicationPrivate16sendPostedEventsEP7QObjectiP11QThreadData (libQt5Core.so.5)#012#11 0x00007f6ad1239983 _ZL23postEventSourceDispatchP8_GSourcePFiPvES1_ (libQt5Core.so.5)#012#12 0x00007f6acc5dea8a g_main_context_dispatch (libglib-2.0.so.0)#012#13 0x00007f6acc5dee20 g_main_context_iterate.isra.29 (libglib-2.0.so.0)#012#14 0x00007f6acc5deecc g_main_context_iteration (libglib-2.0.so.0)#012#15 0x00007f6ad1239d8f _ZN20QEventDispatcherGlib13processEventsE6QFlagsIN10QEventLoop17ProcessEventsFlagEE (libQt5Core.so.5)#012#16 0x00007f6ad11e0daa _ZN10QEventLoop4execE6QFlagsINS_17ProcessEventsFlagEE (libQt5Core.so.5)#012#17 0x00007f6ad11e8e6c _ZN16QCoreApplication4execEv (libQt5Core.so.5)#012#18 0x00007f6ad71ae9f4 kdemain (libkdeinit5_kate.so)#012#19 0x00007f6ad031f700 __libc_start_main (libc.so.6)#012#20 0x0000000000400a09 _start (kate)#012#012Stack trace of thread 20563:#012#0 0x00007f6ad03f62fd poll (libc.so.6)#012#1 0x00007f6accd2e182 _xcb_conn_wait (libxcb.so.1)#012#2 0x00007f6accd2fc77 xcb_wait_for_event (libxcb.so.1)#012#3 0x00007f6aba4d5999 _ZN15QXcbEventReader3runEv (libQt5XcbQpa.so.5)#012#4 0x00007f6ad100254e _ZN14QThreadPrivate5startEPv (libQt5Core.so.5)#012#5 0x00007f6ace379555 start_thread (libpthread.so.0)#012#6 0x00007f6ad0401b9d __clone (libc.so.6)
On 10/03/2015 06:12 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
- open some textfiles
- close one of them with changes
- say discard changes
- kate closes
- repeatly
I did the following...
1. Started kate 2. Open 4 text files, one with Chinese Characters 3. Made some changes to one file 4. Closed and picked "discard" 5. No crash
Repeated the exercise multiple times with different text files. I could not get it to crash.
Am 03.10.2015 um 12:29 schrieb Ed Greshko:
On 10/03/2015 06:12 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
- open some textfiles
- close one of them with changes
- say discard changes
- kate closes
- repeatly
I did the following...
- Started kate
- Open 4 text files, one with Chinese Characters
- Made some changes to one file
- Closed and picked "discard"
- No crash
Repeated the exercise multiple times with different text files. I could not get it to crash
well, maybe not every time b ut *way too often* given that this did not happen a single time before upgrade to F22/KDE5
Tried to reproduce it 12 times, no crash here. F22 with all stable updates.
On 10/03/2015 12:35 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 03.10.2015 um 12:29 schrieb Ed Greshko:
On 10/03/2015 06:12 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
- open some textfiles
- close one of them with changes
- say discard changes
- kate closes
- repeatly
I did the following...
- Started kate
- Open 4 text files, one with Chinese Characters
- Made some changes to one file
- Closed and picked "discard"
- No crash
Repeated the exercise multiple times with different text files. I could not get it to crash
well, maybe not every time b ut *way too often* given that this did not happen a single time before upgrade to F22/KDE5
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Am 03.10.2015 um 12:38 schrieb Christian Dersch:
Tried to reproduce it 12 times, no crash here. F22 with all stable updates.
fine, than it happens randomly and hits me only when i am pissed that 50 open documents are closed just by close one of them
F22 with all testing-updates and i am running updates-testing enabled for at least 5 years - KDE5 is just unsuable, only for the fact that login takes half a mminute on a horsepower machine and that /var/lib/systemd/coredump/ every day shows KDE5 related crashes (many of the unnoticed in the background) given that before F22 that never happened over months is enough
what about developers look at /var/lib/systemd/coredump/ nobody can tell me i am the only one with such crashs
and no - for sure i will not purge my userhome - a upstream which expects that should refrain from touch working and widely used software
-rw-r----- 1 root root 1,3M 2015-10-02 11:45 core.kactivitymanage.500.bc5deff73ac041a5ac3ca06fc6c3b8fc.24254.1443779151000000.xz -rw-r----- 1 root root 2,7M 2015-10-03 03:55 core.kate.500.bc5deff73ac041a5ac3ca06fc6c3b8fc.20510.1443837301000000.xz -rw-r----- 1 root root 3,7M 2015-10-03 12:34 core.krunner.500.bc5deff73ac041a5ac3ca06fc6c3b8fc.16099.1443868452000000.xz
On 10/03/2015 12:35 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 03.10.2015 um 12:29 schrieb Ed Greshko:
On 10/03/2015 06:12 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
- open some textfiles
- close one of them with changes
- say discard changes
- kate closes
- repeatly
I did the following...
- Started kate
- Open 4 text files, one with Chinese Characters
- Made some changes to one file
- Closed and picked "discard"
- No crash
Repeated the exercise multiple times with different text files. I could not get it to crash
well, maybe not every time b ut *way too often* given that this did not happen a single time before upgrade to F22/KDE5
On 10/03/2015 06:44 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
fine, than it happens randomly and hits me only when i am pissed that 50 open documents are closed just by close one of them
Are you saying you need to have that many open files or has your frustration resulted in exaggeration/sarcasm?
If it does happen with only a large number of files open I would give it a go. And, have you noticed if the file size may play a part?
Am 03.10.2015 um 12:48 schrieb Ed Greshko:
On 10/03/2015 06:44 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
fine, than it happens randomly and hits me only when i am pissed that 50 open documents are closed just by close one of them
Are you saying you need to have that many open files or has your frustration resulted in exaggeration/sarcasm?
well, i am using my computer for serious work, having open 150 eml files for review and remove bayes-poisioning is a regular task each day
If it does happen with only a large number of files open I would give it a go. And, have you noticed if the file size may play a part?
the file size don't matter, just a few KB each file
Am 03.10.2015 um 12:51 schrieb Reindl Harald:
Am 03.10.2015 um 12:48 schrieb Ed Greshko:
On 10/03/2015 06:44 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
fine, than it happens randomly and hits me only when i am pissed that 50 open documents are closed just by close one of them
Are you saying you need to have that many open files or has your frustration resulted in exaggeration/sarcasm?
well, i am using my computer for serious work, having open 150 eml files for review and remove bayes-poisioning is a regular task each day
the same for move 50, 100, 200 files from a sftp-folder (honeypot server) with Konqueror to a local folder, drag them to thunderbird and move reviewed samples back via sftp to the training folder
*each time* you move a larger amount of files (even if they are only have a few bytes) the windows bar /control bar freezes and the only workaround is ALT+TAB to wait until the freeze is over and the current application loe it's focus because the click in the window bar from a minute ago suceeds now
the same for teh idiotic behavior "show desktop" completly get reverted when you put a specific application in the focus or even try to rename a file in a folder-view - no idea how the developers imagine you attach a file froma folder-view widegt to a mail when "show desktop" and bring the compose window to focus is impossible
no idea why the folder-view widget *again* lacks the Konqueror context-menus (that was fixed after many months in KDE4 years ago)
On 10/03/2015 06:51 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 03.10.2015 um 12:48 schrieb Ed Greshko:
On 10/03/2015 06:44 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
fine, than it happens randomly and hits me only when i am pissed that 50 open documents are closed just by close one of them
Are you saying you need to have that many open files or has your frustration resulted in exaggeration/sarcasm?
well, i am using my computer for serious work, having open 150 eml files for review and remove bayes-poisioning is a regular task each day
Is there any other type of work other than serious work? :-) :-)
As a rule I don't have that many files open at once mostly because I can lose track of what I was doing. Yes, a personal problem. Anyway, I'll give this a go with a large number of eml files in the morning and see if I get the same results.
If it does happen with only a large number of files open I would give it a go. And, have you noticed if the file size may play a part?
the file size don't matter, just a few KB each file
OK... And, BTW, my /var/lib/systemd/coredump/ directory is empty.
I only get plasmashell crashes and freezes at the moment. Not as much as before, but still annoying.
Am 03.10.2015 um 14:18 schrieb Ed Greshko:
On 10/03/2015 06:51 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 03.10.2015 um 12:48 schrieb Ed Greshko:
On 10/03/2015 06:44 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
fine, than it happens randomly and hits me only when i am pissed that 50 open documents are closed just by close one of them
Are you saying you need to have that many open files or has your frustration resulted in exaggeration/sarcasm?
well, i am using my computer for serious work, having open 150 eml files for review and remove bayes-poisioning is a regular task each day
Is there any other type of work other than serious work? :-) :-)
As a rule I don't have that many files open at once mostly because I can lose track of what I was doing. Yes, a personal problem. Anyway, I'll give this a go with a large number of eml files in the morning and see if I get the same results.
If it does happen with only a large number of files open I would give it a go. And, have you noticed if the file size may play a part?
the file size don't matter, just a few KB each file
OK... And, BTW, my /var/lib/systemd/coredump/ directory is empty.
I only get plasmashell crashes and freezes at the moment. Not as much as before, but still annoying.
[276916.928647] kate[3709]: segfault at 0 ip 00007fa027a53358 sp 00007ffec232acd0 error 4 in libkdeinit5_kate.so[7fa027a0e000+b5000]
* just opened kate (in a terminal because krunner is gone again) * wrote a few chars * click "close document" * select dicard changes * kate crashs
On 10/03/2015 11:50 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 03.10.2015 um 14:18 schrieb Ed Greshko:
On 10/03/2015 06:51 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 03.10.2015 um 12:48 schrieb Ed Greshko:
On 10/03/2015 06:44 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
fine, than it happens randomly and hits me only when i am pissed that 50 open documents are closed just by close one of them
Are you saying you need to have that many open files or has your frustration resulted in exaggeration/sarcasm?
well, i am using my computer for serious work, having open 150 eml files for review and remove bayes-poisioning is a regular task each day
Is there any other type of work other than serious work? :-) :-)
As a rule I don't have that many files open at once mostly because I can lose track of what I was doing. Yes, a personal problem. Anyway, I'll give this a go with a large number of eml files in the morning and see if I get the same results.
If it does happen with only a large number of files open I would give it a go. And, have you noticed if the file size may play a part?
the file size don't matter, just a few KB each file
OK... And, BTW, my /var/lib/systemd/coredump/ directory is empty.
I only get plasmashell crashes and freezes at the moment. Not as much as before, but still annoying.
[276916.928647] kate[3709]: segfault at 0 ip 00007fa027a53358 sp 00007ffec232acd0 error 4 in libkdeinit5_kate.so[7fa027a0e000+b5000]
- just opened kate (in a terminal because krunner is gone again)
- wrote a few chars
- click "close document"
- select dicard changes
- kate crashs
This morning I saved 151 emails from T-Bird into .eml files. I then opened them all with kate and one-by-one made changes to each and then closed them while discarding changes. I did this 6 times, that's a lot of clicking, and had no crashes. Also did what you did above 20 times without a problem.
Have you given any consideration that there may be something unique to your environment? You've not said, but have you gotten the crashes on more than one system? And/Or have you tried either to
a. Create a new user and without making changes to the default environment tried to replicate the crashes
b. Created a Virtual Machine and without "customizing" too much tried to replicate the crashes
Am 04.10.2015 um 00:53 schrieb Ed Greshko:
On 10/03/2015 11:50 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 03.10.2015 um 14:18 schrieb Ed Greshko:
On 10/03/2015 06:51 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 03.10.2015 um 12:48 schrieb Ed Greshko:
On 10/03/2015 06:44 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
fine, than it happens randomly and hits me only when i am pissed that 50 open documents are closed just by close one of them
Are you saying you need to have that many open files or has your frustration resulted in exaggeration/sarcasm?
well, i am using my computer for serious work, having open 150 eml files for review and remove bayes-poisioning is a regular task each day
Is there any other type of work other than serious work? :-) :-)
As a rule I don't have that many files open at once mostly because I can lose track of what I was doing. Yes, a personal problem. Anyway, I'll give this a go with a large number of eml files in the morning and see if I get the same results.
If it does happen with only a large number of files open I would give it a go. And, have you noticed if the file size may play a part?
the file size don't matter, just a few KB each file
OK... And, BTW, my /var/lib/systemd/coredump/ directory is empty.
I only get plasmashell crashes and freezes at the moment. Not as much as before, but still annoying.
[276916.928647] kate[3709]: segfault at 0 ip 00007fa027a53358 sp 00007ffec232acd0 error 4 in libkdeinit5_kate.so[7fa027a0e000+b5000]
- just opened kate (in a terminal because krunner is gone again)
- wrote a few chars
- click "close document"
- select dicard changes
- kate crashs
This morning I saved 151 emails from T-Bird into .eml files. I then opened them all with kate and one-by-one made changes to each and then closed them while discarding changes. I did this 6 times, that's a lot of clicking, and had no crashes. Also did what you did above 20 times without a problem.
Have you given any consideration that there may be something unique to your environment? You've not said, but have you gotten the crashes on more than one system? And/Or have you tried either to
a. Create a new user and without making changes to the default environment tried to replicate the crashes
b. Created a Virtual Machine and without "customizing" too much tried to replicate the crashes
that's not an option - i need my machine to work and it did until upgrade to F22, frankly there are two machines with synchronized settings and userhomes with a ton of workload for 5 fulltime jobs
if i need to rebuild my preferences and suerhome i could straight go back to Windows where such "handling" is normal
On 10/04/2015 07:02 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 04.10.2015 um 00:53 schrieb Ed Greshko:
On 10/03/2015 11:50 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 03.10.2015 um 14:18 schrieb Ed Greshko:
On 10/03/2015 06:51 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 03.10.2015 um 12:48 schrieb Ed Greshko:
On 10/03/2015 06:44 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > fine, than it happens randomly and hits me only when i am pissed that 50 open documents are closed just by close one of them
Are you saying you need to have that many open files or has your frustration resulted in exaggeration/sarcasm?
well, i am using my computer for serious work, having open 150 eml files for review and remove bayes-poisioning is a regular task each day
Is there any other type of work other than serious work? :-) :-)
As a rule I don't have that many files open at once mostly because I can lose track of what I was doing. Yes, a personal problem. Anyway, I'll give this a go with a large number of eml files in the morning and see if I get the same results.
If it does happen with only a large number of files open I would give it a go. And, have you noticed if the file size may play a part?
the file size don't matter, just a few KB each file
OK... And, BTW, my /var/lib/systemd/coredump/ directory is empty.
I only get plasmashell crashes and freezes at the moment. Not as much as before, but still annoying.
[276916.928647] kate[3709]: segfault at 0 ip 00007fa027a53358 sp 00007ffec232acd0 error 4 in libkdeinit5_kate.so[7fa027a0e000+b5000]
- just opened kate (in a terminal because krunner is gone again)
- wrote a few chars
- click "close document"
- select dicard changes
- kate crashs
This morning I saved 151 emails from T-Bird into .eml files. I then opened them all with kate and one-by-one made changes to each and then closed them while discarding changes. I did this 6 times, that's a lot of clicking, and had no crashes. Also did what you did above 20 times without a problem.
Have you given any consideration that there may be something unique to your environment? You've not said, but have you gotten the crashes on more than one system? And/Or have you tried either to
a. Create a new user and without making changes to the default environment tried to replicate the crashes
b. Created a Virtual Machine and without "customizing" too much tried to replicate the crashes
that's not an option - i need my machine to work and it did until upgrade to F22, frankly there are two machines with synchronized settings and userhomes with a ton of workload for 5 fulltime jobs
if i need to rebuild my preferences and suerhome i could straight go back to Windows where such "handling" is normal
Oh, well. If you're unable to do any work to attempt to narrow down the source of the problem and others are unable to reproduce the problem then kind of hard to find and fix the problem. Also, if you do BZ the problem, kind of hard to expect too much attention being given to a one off problem.
Don't just go to OpenSuSE ... they're still using KDE4 through 2017 ... I just did the switch Saturday on my home machines.
-e
On 10/03/15 19:02, Reindl Harald wrote:
if i need to rebuild my preferences and suerhome i could straight go back to Windows where such "handling" is normal
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Reindl Harald wrote:
_ZN14KateMainWindow19queueModifiedOnDiscEPN11KTextEditor8DocumentE (libkdeinit5_kate.so)#012#1 0x00007f6ad71b3bed
Hmmm, was that file also modified outside of Kate? (The queueModifiedOnDisc in your backtrace looks like it.) That might be the detail we're missing to reproduce the issue.
Kevin Kofler
Am 04.10.2015 um 01:48 schrieb Kevin Kofler:
Reindl Harald wrote:
_ZN14KateMainWindow19queueModifiedOnDiscEPN11KTextEditor8DocumentE (libkdeinit5_kate.so)#012#1 0x00007f6ad71b3bed
Hmmm, was that file also modified outside of Kate? (The queueModifiedOnDisc in your backtrace looks like it.) That might be the detail we're missing to reproduce the issue
no, i did not get get far on F22 to rely on "document modified do you want to reload" since it crashs most of the time by discard changes in a temporary file which is not a file in fact, just a new document (well, after i smoked one cigarette more waiting for desktop unfreeze after move my workfiles from sftp servers)