On Saturday, 8 July 2017 4:12:54 AM AEST Matthew Miller wrote:
On Fri, Jul 07, 2017 at 04:26:00PM +0200, Luigi Toscano wrote:
> Talking about changes, you mentioned that there are many applications and
> they
are tested at the end of the cycle. Can you please share more
> details about it? Is it a matter of the number of the
applications in the
> Live image, or there are some of them which are more troublesome to test.
> Or maybe the applications by KDE simply don't have automated tests, while
>
> there are some of them for Gnome applications?
> Or a combination of all of them?
See Steven's other reply to this for some context. Here is the release
criterion:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_26_Final_Release_Criteria#Default_app
lication_functionality
which says:
All applications that can be launched using the standard graphical
mechanism of a release-blocking desktop after a default installation of
that desktop must start successfully and withstand a basic
functionality test.
Basic functionality means that the app must at least be broadly
capable of its most basic expected operations, and that it must not
crash without user intervention or with only basic user intervention.
From this, I think sheer number is an issue. In Workstation, there are
GUI 36 applications available on the Live image, not counting Anaconda.
That's already a lot, really -- but in KDE, I count *79* in the menu at
the bottom left.
In other news, I installed Arch Linux the other day, then sddm / plasma-
desktop and was quite surprised to see how clean it was.
Yes, just about everything isn't installed by default - but being able to then
just install the bits I need was somewhat refreshing.
While I'm not for a moment suggesting that the live image should be a bare
bones solution, I feel there needs to be some agreement that the current level
of stuff in the live image is somewhat excessive.
In somewhat related news:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Fedora/comments/6jqysp/can_we_talk_about_spins/
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