Lol ... haven't seen an elipse since
and this is enough of this.
Rage on McDuff.
On Monday 11 May 2015 14:08:15 Reindl Harald wrote:
no, you are too lazy to learn how to write score based rules,
spamassassin is not rocket science
use a mail service with a maintained spamfilter if you are not able or
too lazy to maintain it yourself but don't ask others to work around
your intentional broken configuration
likely some spammers now have a big smile on their face because the same
way you filter by wrong criteria someone can bypass that joke called a
filter
Am 11.05.2015 um 14:03 schrieb Eli Wapniarski:
> You got me Reindl... I am too lazy. I have better things to do with my
> time
> then to sift through tons of junk mail to pick out the extremely few mails
> that would be good. And so yep... I'm gonna hammer rule.
>
> If I don't receive mail oh well. If you don't care to have mail received,
> oh well. Its lose / lose.
>
> On Monday 11 May 2015 13:50:15 Reindl Harald wrote:
>> Am 11.05.2015 um 13:43 schrieb Eli Wapniarski:
>>> What makes the Elipse and for that matter any use of a period inside the
>>> subject line so bad is that most filters rely on regular expressions to
>>> filter. The period is a special character in regex processors which
>>> means all. If one were to create a simple filter based on the period,
>>> they would be blocking everything. So this trick is utilized to get past
>>> those filters.
>>
>> jesus christ then give that filter some score points instead
>> unconditional block as well as train your bayes and use DNSWL with
>> negative scores
>>
>> last but not least add that line to your SA local.cf
>> whitelist_auth *(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
>>
>>> A manual creation of the filter which would include \. would be
>>> required.
>>
>> so what - you need to take care about escaping in general
>>
>>> Until I created the filter to block out elipses. I would get all sorts
>>> of bad mail trying to sell me all sorts of stuff that you would not want
>>> sold to you, or to visit all sorts of sites you would not want your kids
>>> to visit. So, to answer your question, yes I have blocked elipses for a
>>> very long time. I will continue to block elipses, and I am quite
>>> confident, because of this issue other aggressive filters will also
>>> block them.
>>
>> you do that because you are simply too lazy to train your filters
>> because otherwise we would not be able block that sort of mails without
>> creating hammer rules with false positives
>>
>>> You can do what you wish. I am not going to get into a trolling match
>>
>> well, you started the trolling with your "i am unable to configure a
>> sane spamfilter and so ask the world to write around it for legit mails"
>>
>>> with anyone. I am relating my experience and made a request thats all.
>>> If you choose to continue using elipses thats fine thats up to you. :)
>>
>> honestly if you would have expierience with spamfiltering you would
>> write sane score rules instead ask the rest of the world to take care
>> how to write their mails for not hit your broken configuration
>>
>>> Quoting Patrick O'Callaghan <pocallaghan(a)gmail.com>:
>>>> On Mon, 2015-05-11 at 14:14 +0300, Eli Wapniarski wrote:
>>>>> Quoting Patrick O'Callaghan <pocallaghan(a)gmail.com>:
>>>>>> On Mon, 2015-05-11 at 11:23 +0300, Eli Wapniarski wrote:
>>>>>>> As a result, I had to filter them out. I am sure that other
>>>>>
>>>>> aggressive
>>>>>
>>>>>>> anti spam filters will filter out those subjects as well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why? Is this a defining characteristic of spam? Are you also
going to
>>>>>> ask the rest of the Internet not to use ellipses in Subject
lines?
>>>>>
>>>>> Believe it or not.... it is.
>>>>
>>>> A quick search on this list shows over a hundred such messages over the
>>>> last few years. Similar searches on other lists show similar results.
>>>> Are you saying that all these messages have been blocked by your spam
>>>> filter? If so, you seriously need to think about changing it
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