For some reason, laptop 1 only asks me once for my wallet password when I reboot, and never if I hibernate.
However, laptop 2 repeated asks for my kdewallet password when I launch an application.
Can I safely disable kdewallet?
I really don't understand what it is for. I just find it a nuisance, and it doesn't make me feel any safer.
On Friday 30 July 2010 00:33:36 Timothy Murphy wrote:
For some reason,
laptop 1 only asks me once
for my wallet password when I reboot, and
never if I hibernate.
It is configured that way.
System Settings -> Account details -> kde wallet -> access control
However, laptop 2
repeated asks
for my kdewallet password when I launch an
application.
There is an option on access control that literally says: Prompt when an application accesses an open wallet
Can I safely
disable kdewallet?
I really don't understand what it is for. I just
find it a nuisance,
and it doesn't make me feel any safer.
The wallet allows you to store passwords in a single place guarded by a master password. It is extremely effective for what it was designed.
Examples: reading PDF password protected documents accessing web sites that require a password amarok kmail/kontact konqueror (ftp/ssh/...) knetworkmanager
The advantage is that the passwords for these services are not stored on a plain format and that is really a good thing.
On Fri, 2010-07-30 at 11:45 +0100, José Matos wrote:
The wallet allows you to store passwords in a single place guarded by a master password. It is extremely effective for what it was designed.
Examples: reading PDF password protected documents accessing web sites that require a password amarok kmail/kontact konqueror (ftp/ssh/...) knetworkmanager
The advantage is that the passwords for these services are not stored on a plain format and that is really a good thing.
This is certainly true, but it's very unfortunate that anyone using a Gnome app under KDE (e.g. Evolution) also has to deal with the completely separate gnome-keyring system. AFAIK kdewallet and gnome-keyring do essentially the same thing but they don't talk to each other. It would be so much better to have a unified system that supported both APIs, but I guess that's never going to happen.
poc
2010/7/30 Patrick O'Callaghan pocallaghan@gmail.com
This is certainly true, but it's very unfortunate that anyone using a Gnome app under KDE (e.g. Evolution) also has to deal with the completely separate gnome-keyring system. AFAIK kdewallet and gnome-keyring do essentially the same thing but they don't talk to each other. It would be so much better to have a unified system that supported both APIs, but I guess that's never going to happen.
It was an effort in this way, I don't know its current status: http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16581 (see the last comment).
On Fri, 2010-07-30 at 09:06 -0400, Christian González wrote:
2010/7/30 Patrick O'Callaghan pocallaghan@gmail.com This is certainly true, but it's very unfortunate that anyone using a Gnome app under KDE (e.g. Evolution) also has to deal with the completely separate gnome-keyring system. AFAIK kdewallet and gnome-keyring do essentially the same thing but they don't talk to each other. It would be so much better to have a unified system that supported both APIs, but I guess that's never going to happen.
It was an effort in this way, I don't know its current status: http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16581 (see the last comment).
The last comment is over a year old, however there is a small amount of mailing list activity (see http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/authentication). A cursory glance at it gives me the impression what people are talking about a complete rethink of what these apps actually do (the idea is to have a new Secrets Service that any desktop app can tap into). This sounds nice but I think we're going to have to be patient.
poc
José Matos wrote:
For some reason, laptop 1 only asks me once for my wallet password when I reboot, and never if I hibernate.
It is configured that way.
System Settings -> Account details -> kde wallet -> access control
However, laptop 2 repeatedly asks for my kdewallet password when I launch an application.
There is an option on access control that literally says: Prompt when an application accesses an open wallet
Can I safely disable kdewallet? I really don't understand what it is for. I just find it a nuisance, and it doesn't make me feel any safer.
The wallet allows you to store passwords in a single place guarded by a master password. It is extremely effective for what it was designed.
I'm afraid my query was based on a misunderstanding. I assumed that KDE wallet was a new invention intended to supplement kwallet.
As I understand it now, they are the same thing confusedly given two names.
In my f-menu I have two items, kwalletmanager and KDE Wallet . Clicking on kwalletmanager does nothing that I can see, but I note that after clicking on it there is an application /usr/bin/kwalletmanager running. It is not clear to me what this does, or how one is meant to interact with it.
As I recall, there used to be a wallet icon in the panel if one was using this mechanism but I haven't seen since many Fedora distributions ago.
Examples: knetworkmanager ...
The advantage is that the passwords for these services are not stored on a plain format and that is really a good thing.
I appreciate the point of the wallet mechanism. As I said, I thought KDEwallet was an addition to this, rather as kdenetwork is an addition to NetworkManager.