On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 6:32 AM, Glenn Holmer shadowm@lyonlabs.org wrote:
On 10/21/2015 04:41 PM, Gerald B. Cox wrote:
I thought this article was particularly good
Are you kidding?
"an underlying sensation that something was a breath away from crashing"
"that 'shaky' feeling"
"I feel as if something just might crash on me"
"gives you an unsteady feeling like you might not be able to return to the desktop"
"lack of stability (even if only a perceived stability)"
I've been bitterly disappointed with the current version of KDE, but that guy's a clown.
I fully agree. This article is far from being informative.
Beyond that, we (my company) recently upgraded ~20 laptops and workstations to F22 (w/ KDE 5.4) up from F21 (w/ KDE 4.x) and I must admit that amount of noise was relatively low. We do see some issues with plasmashell slowly leaking memory and several key features are missing *, but all in all, Plasma 2 is *far* *far* *far* better than the initial experience we had when we switched from Fedora 8 to Fedora 9 (KDE 4.0).
- Gilboa * E.g. Windows merge/tabbing and widgets/background per v.desktop no longer supported.
Am 22.10.2015 um 13:18 schrieb Gilboa Davara:
Beyond that, we (my company) recently upgraded ~20 laptops and workstations to F22 (w/ KDE 5.4) up from F21 (w/ KDE 4.x) and I must admit that amount of noise was relatively low. We do see some issues with plasmashell slowly leaking memory and several key features are missing *, but all in all, Plasma 2 is *far* *far* *far* better than the initial experience we had when we switched from Fedora 8 to Fedora 9 (KDE 4.0)
well, the shape of KDE4.0 was so bad that you hardly find anything worser for a long time - not that bad as KDE4.0 is no compliment and my biggest problem is that after a few weeks i did not find anything improved for me which justifies again throwing away things after they finally worked
minutes ago i had again to kill my session hard because the control bar did no longer react and ALT+TAB was not able to bring systray minimized applications in the foreground
after only 10 hours that's bad given that when i was at vacation the only reason to logout where updates in the past
frankly if only oxygen would look identical, but no, now it also wastes a lot of screenheight in the titlebar and with all that widescreen monitors screenheight is expensive - i don't need wasted space for touchscreens on a desktop workstation
On Thursday 22 October 2015 13:46:11 Reindl Harald wrote:
biggest problem is that after a few weeks i did not find anything improved for me which justifies again throwing away things after they finally worked
As posted yesterday, there is KDE4 copr repo now, you may give it a try.
Regards, Piotr
Am 22.10.2015 um 14:00 schrieb Piotr Gbyliczek:
On Thursday 22 October 2015 13:46:11 Reindl Harald wrote:
biggest problem is that after a few weeks i did not find anything improved for me which justifies again throwing away things after they finally worked
As posted yesterday, there is KDE4 copr repo now, you may give it a try
sorry - too late - too many machines targeted to be on the same software versions for major downgrades
the only thing i hope is that when KDE5 becomes mature and upstream-devs against decides it's too stable and so time to throw away all the working things and come out with KDE6 upstream don't break that much or the KDE-SIG waits until KDE6.10 for throw it to Fedora users
On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 10:11 AM, Reindl Harald h.reindl@thelounge.net wrote:
the only thing i hope is that when KDE5 becomes mature and upstream-devs against decides it's too stable and so time to throw away all the working things and come out with KDE6 upstream don't break that much or the KDE-SIG waits until KDE6.10 for throw it to Fedora users
Completely agree. Hindsight is always 20/20 - and after the issues which occurred from KDE3 to KDE4 I really was a bit surprised with the issues - but the damage has been done. The only thing to do now is move forward or sideways... LOL... but hopefully this has been a lesson learned. Doesn't matter if you believe your code is ready... if the requisites you rely on aren't... neither are you.