ambassadors February 2007

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Max's Blog Post re: Ambassadors Discussion
by Jeffrey Tadlock 02 Mar '07

02 Mar '07

In reading Max's blog post on 2/24 [1] he brings up some key points that I feel merit further discussion on helping build a strong foundation for the ambassadors. :Begin snippet of Max's Blog post: "Part of this problem is one of localization. You can go through the process of learning to be an Fedora packager regardless of where you live, but unless you are near a place where there are already active Ambassadors organizing events, it's hard to get real experience doing an event. Another topic of conversation was helping to delegate responsibility. If an event is going to happen, there are several roles that need to be filled. One is purely operational -- coordinating with the location, scheduling the talks, making sure that there are handouts or posters, getting swag, publicity, etc. The skill set needed to do these kinds of things is different from the skill set needed once you actually get to the event and stand at the booth or deliver a talk. Once you're actually speaking about Fedora, now it's about the message, and I think that for a lot of Ambassadors, we need to do a better job of filtering. Freedom, choice, community model -- those are the core principles of Fedora. After that, you need to be able to say in about 30 to 60 seconds what the high points of the current release are, and what the next release will include." :End snippet of Max's Blog post: Organizing an event does take some real work and for some it might not be their area of expertise. I do think there are several things the Ambassador project could do to help lower this hurdle and increase the number of local events Fedora has a presence at. My thoughts are based on what I learned from helping organize the Fedora presence at the Ohio Linux Fest in 2006. While we prepared for this event we felt there must be a better way to organize for something such as this - something a little more cookie cutter to reduce the actual work load of organizing the materials and such and allow more time focusing on other areas while at the event. I think one thing that could go very far in helping with some of the larger events is to see the Event Kit that Jack Aboutboul worked on come to realization. The page for the Event Kit [2] is blank. I think we should look at the Gnome Event Box [3] as something the Fedora Project should put in place. For those unfamiliar with the Gnome Event Box, it is a large, sturdy box that they ship to Gnome volunteers presenting at various events. It includes an LCD screen, a desktop computer, mouse, keyboard, various networking equipment, posters/banners and materials to help in hanging these things at the booth. It is close to a booth in a box. Something such as this reduces the amount of work that must be repeated each time someone from the Fedora Project attends an event. A Fedora Event Box would allow an ambassador to request the box for a certain date and have it shipped to them. When they receive the box they will have all the basic materials needed to put together a good looking booth for Fedora and also allow them more time to focus on other aspects of an event. To me this lowers the hurdle significantly to volunteering to attend an event. The costs of such a box are filling the box with the appropriate materials and then the shipping costs from event to event. The benefits to these costs are well put together Fedora Booths and hopefully more participation in local events. Beyond the Event Box, making sure people know the core principals of Fedora is important. For this I present the Ubuntu Marketing Flier [4] as an example of a very clean at-a-glance look into the distro. I think Fedora needs a similar brochure to promote what makes Fedora what it is. We can also state where to get Fedora, where to ask questions and where to get support from the community. We can make such a flier readily available for Ambassadors in a format that will allow ambassadors to take the file to a print shop for local production. For Release Features in upcoming versions a clean, well formatted single page can cover the highlights of future releases. This document can get updated for each upcoming release and be readily available to ambassadors to take to their local print shop for production for the actual event. Many ambassadors also bring DVDs, T-Shirts, stickers, etc to events for sale from the booth to help defray the costs of getting us there to begin with. Our booth at the Ohio Linux Fest had all of these and we were pretty successful at paying for most (not all) of our costs to attend the event. Having templates that are ready for production and guidelines on how to give the information to the T-shirt maker or sticker maker can also reduce the amount of repeated work. For ambassadors with their own ideas, they could certainly run with that, but for other ambassadors they can just take the templates from the web and use the guidelines provided on the site. I see this as lowering the hurdle for event planning and organization. In summary I see the following setup as greatly helping ease the organization efforts of attending events and hopefully leading to an increase in the number of events Fedora is able to attend - simply because we have made it easier. * Fedora Event Kit (box): This will include the basic materials to get a booth up and running. An ambassador requests and receives this and can be assured of having a near immediate professional presence at an event. * Marketing Fliers: Two fliers, one brochure covering the core principals of Fedora - explains what Fedora is about, where to obtain Fedora and where to get support from the community. The other flier lists the features in the upcoming release - to be updated with each new release. These would be readily available on the web to allow the ambassador to locally produce the materials. * Schwag. Readily available (or at least clear steps on how to obtain the necessary high resolution images) images and templates for use with T-Shirt and Sticker logos. Also guidelines on what to tell a T-Shirt or sticker producer to make sure you get the materials you want. By laying these ideas out clearly on wiki I think the hurdles to organizing events can be reduced greatly. This will either allow a person to simply request the materials and have access to the brochures to have a good presence at an event with minimal effort or free up valuable time for people who organize the Fedora Booth at events to focus on lining up speakers, prepping a birds of a feather session, etc, etc. I know if there had been these elements in place for the Ohio Linux Fest we would have had a much easier time of getting everything organized. And finally, when I helped organize the Fedora Booth at the Ohio Linux Fest I was assigned a "mentor". This was a single contact that if I ran into trouble along they way or had questions in general I could easily email and he would either answer the questions I had, get me in contact with the correct person or get the answers for me. I think we should continue this. Let those of us that have organized events previously volunteer to be a mentor. Most likely those of us that volunteer to mentor will be familiar enough with the Ambassadors and people within the Fedora Project itself to help get answers and help guide new event organizers as needed to insure a successful Fedora presence at events. We would just be a friendly ear to help keep folks from getting overwhelmed. --Jeffrey [1] http://spevack.livejournal.com/9394.html [2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/EventKit [3] http://live.gnome.org/GnomeEventsBox [4] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DIYMarketing?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=Ubuntu…

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Fedora Emeritus Ambassadors
by Francesco Ugolini 01 Mar '07

01 Mar '07

I've a small proposal that consist in the creation of a Fedora Emeritus Ambassador, an experienced and active Ambassador who have the possibility to address (trough specific rights) the Ambassadors' activity, i think he will be a good guide to newbie and to everyone that need help (eg. there is a poll and i don't know the effects this will have on the project, like the Merging Issue (www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/MergingIssue) For the beta period i suggest those 6 people, that i see work hard and be the Light of the project: Gerold Kassube Jorg Simon Chitlesh Goorah Thomas Chung Robert Whetsel ... and, at the end, Max Spevack, that is not only a perfect Fedora Leader but an excellent Ambassador (he stayed a lot of time in the booth and work a lot) What do you think? Francesco Ugolini -- http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FrancescoUgolini

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release announcement idea [RFC]
by Karsten Wade 01 Mar '07

01 Mar '07

Last release we had an idea that I'm proposing we try for Fedora 7. For reasons that should be obvious as you read, the Ambassadors seem to be a natural group to do this. Perhaps in coordination/collaboration with Fedora Translation/L10n contributors? The basic idea is to distribute to countries/regions a list of "talking points". Talking points are specific items we want to see covered in any release announcement. Then each region/language can choose to i) form a small team, and ii) collaborate to write a truly localized release announcement. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs/Drafts/ReleaseAnnouncements#Process Background ---------- In the past, the announcement introduction has been written in English in a semi-humorous way. To understand it, you had to know specific cultural references. This made them fairly impossible to translate (or transliterate). Or even understand, period. This new method would rely entirely upon the local groups to collaborate on an announcement, then distribute it within their region as a formal Fedora release announcement. One place to start is fedora-announce. How many different language announcements can we get on fedora-announce for Fedora 7? One concern that is that a release announcement is a very big chance to start misinformation about Fedora. For example, an announcement may be written in a language not read by most of the Fedora leadership, and the authors accidentally choose terms or phrasing that reflect negatively on Fedora. The quality of the writing or grammar also reflects on Fedora. To lower this risk, it seems like a good idea to have the release announcement draft due for review by the final test (usually test3, occasionally test4). Every draft announcement then needs an independent review by a reader of that language. I'm sure that this has been done informally in various countries. This idea is to formalize the process, recognize the people involved with the honor of speaking LOUDLY for Fedora, and make an ever bigger impact with this next release. - Karsten -- Karsten Wade, RHCE, 108 Editor ^ Fedora Documentation Project Sr. Developer Relations Mgr. | fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject quaid.108.redhat.com | gpg key: AD0E0C41 ////////////////////////////////// \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\

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Some Idea....please reply
by Giuseppe Pignataro 01 Mar '07

01 Mar '07

Dear Ambassador and member of the marketing list, I have some idea and want know what do you think about this. The first idea is this: 1) My first idea is to create a site like linuxcounter for people that use Fedora. I believe that this idea is good for two reason. The first reason is that in this way we can counter the user that use Fedora The second reason,this is a marketing reason, this is a good way which a Fedora user can distinguished about another GNU/Linux user.I want that people can undestand the "Fedora way".I want that Fedora User can say: "I'm a Fedora user, I'm a special person because I use this distro, because this distro are the best distro and i have have some that distinguish me from another generic user.I'm Fedora" I want that people can consider Fedora (the distro,the community and all around the project) as a way of life. 2)The second idea is this: I want to create something like a dating site but for Fedora user. Ok, I explain the idea about the dating site. I want to create a site where the user can meet other user in real time. The site can give at all the Fedora user around the world to know other Fedora user.Can give the possibility to resolv the problem that the newbie can have and in this way is possible to see that bihind the Fedora Project there are real people,and not only a mail address. Ok,can you say me wath do you think about this 2 idea? Best Regards, Giuseppe Pignataro Giuseppe Pignataro <http://www.giuseppepignataro.net/> http://www.giuseppepignataro.net Fedora Core Ambassador for Italy A KDE italian translator Socio TAU Visual Member of ILS

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LATAM Release Notes Localization
by Nicolas Antonio Corrarello 28 Feb '07

28 Feb '07

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Karsten: Volunteering for LATAM Release notes, I think Pablo from Argentina also will also help me. Y.S. > > - -- > > Nicolas A. Corrarello p: +54 (11) 4903-4112 > > Fedora Ambassador Argentina c: +54 (911) 5524-1326 > > Fedora Project e: ncorrare(a)fedoraproject.org > > GPG Key: DFC893EE h: www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/NicolasCorrarello > > GPG Fingerprint: 5C93 42DA 98E1 4EEF B24B 7F8C E145 B2F9 DFC8 93EE > > Import my key: $ gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-key 0xDFC893EE > > Learn. Network. Experience open source. > > Red Hat Summit San Diego | May 9-11, 2007 > > Learn more: http://www.redhat.com/promo/summit/2007 Karsten Wade escribió: > > Last release we had an idea that I'm proposing we try for Fedora 7. For > > reasons that should be obvious as you read, the Ambassadors seem to be a > > natural group to do this. Perhaps in coordination/collaboration with > > Fedora Translation/L10n contributors? > > > > The basic idea is to distribute to countries/regions a list of "talking > > points". Talking points are specific items we want to see covered in > > any release announcement. Then each region/language can choose to i) > > form a small team, and ii) collaborate to write a truly localized > > release announcement. > > > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs/Drafts/ReleaseAnnouncements#Process > > > > Background > > ---------- > > > > In the past, the announcement introduction has been written in English > > in a semi-humorous way. To understand it, you had to know specific > > cultural references. This made them fairly impossible to translate (or > > transliterate). Or even understand, period. > > > > This new method would rely entirely upon the local groups to collaborate > > on an announcement, then distribute it within their region as a formal > > Fedora release announcement. One place to start is fedora-announce. > > > > How many different language announcements can we get on fedora-announce > > for Fedora 7? > > > > One concern that is that a release announcement is a very big chance to > > start misinformation about Fedora. For example, an announcement may be > > written in a language not read by most of the Fedora leadership, and the > > authors accidentally choose terms or phrasing that reflect negatively on > > Fedora. The quality of the writing or grammar also reflects on Fedora. > > > > To lower this risk, it seems like a good idea to have the release > > announcement draft due for review by the final test (usually test3, > > occasionally test4). Every draft announcement then needs an independent > > review by a reader of that language. > > > > I'm sure that this has been done informally in various countries. This > > idea is to formalize the process, recognize the people involved with the > > honor of speaking LOUDLY for Fedora, and make an ever bigger impact with > > this next release. > > > > - Karsten > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > -- > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > Fedora-ambassadors-list(a)redhat.com > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFF5YDQ4UWy+d/Ik+4RAlDPAKCW4pViaGZcnp1mEDVLgIIpOMpfIACePEAP dLb8ffDFnNYu+aGTZGV5HfM= =Hrc3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Suggestion @ Fedoraproject / Wiki
by Siddharth Upmanyu 28 Feb '07

28 Feb '07

Hi folks.. I would like to suggest to change the Header and Footer images on the wiki to match the latest release of Fedora... i think a DNA blend in the graphic will give it a more vibrant look and with even better graphics coming every new release the Fedora website will look refreshing and new in just one change... comments/? Regards Siddharth

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Merging of Ambassadors and Marketing lists
by Patrick W. Barnes 28 Feb '07

28 Feb '07

After collecting the results of our poll on the Ambassadors and Marketing lists, FAmSCo met today and discussed the issue of whether or not to merge the two mailing lists into one. We reviewed the results of the poll and carefully considered the arguments we heard on each side. While the poll showed that a slight majority were in favor of the merger, we covered several points that made us feel that the merger is not the right thing to do at this time. We agreed unanimously that the lists should remain separate. We hope that this decision is understood by all of you and will be happy to answer any remaining questions on the matter. Since we will not be merging the two lists, we will be taking other measures to make the purposes of each list perfectly clear. The Marketing list will continue as a forum for strategic discussion. It will host discussions over our global marketing strategy and marketing content. The Ambassadors list will continue to host discussions of events and grass-roots efforts to spread Fedora on the ground worldwide. The differences will be documented on our websites, and we will guide members of each list in deciding how their messages should be directed. We hope that you will all work with us as we try to guide the usage of each list to make the best possible use of these resources. Thank you all for your input. -- Patrick "The N-Man" Barnes nman64(a)n-man.com http://n-man.com/ LinkedIn: http://linkedin.com/in/nman64 Have I been helpful? Rate my assistance! http://rate.affero.net/nman64/ --

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Ambassadors' meeting reminder - Thursday 1st March 14.00 UTC
by Francesco Ugolini 28 Feb '07

28 Feb '07

I want to remember all ambassadors that tomorrow there will be a meeting at 14.00 UTC in #fedora-meeting channel. I invite all to attend it to discuss about events, new projects etc... You can see http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2007-03-01 to see the agenda or to add new topics to this one. Thanks for your attention Francesco Ugolini -- http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FrancescoUgolini

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Event Report (Horizon07 & Mukti07)
by Kushal Das 28 Feb '07

28 Feb '07

Hi, Horizon07 was a great success as it fullfilled almost all the dreams behind it. Rahul's talk changed most of the minds there and the Fedora Demo on all the three days also went cool. Now few of the teachers came to us to learn Linux :) Oh!, forgot to tell you that most of the engineering colleges at West Bengal are running Linux labs in Fedora only :D We also have a very good news that few of the Cyber Cafes at Durgapur shifted to Fedora due to the recent M$ raid in West Bengal, and now they are saying that they will not go back to windows :) Though they have some minor problems like printer setup, file transfer etc. But Mukti07 really disappointed me. After I reached Durgapur, I called Mukti's organizers, and they said they will contact me. But no news from them after that. At first they asked me to do talks & demos on 15th (last day of Horizon), so I asked them to give me any time in between 16-18, I also informed that we can do demo on all the three days morning session. But no reply :( I never thought that event as any community event and they kept their reputation. Regards, Kushal -- Fedora Ambassador, India http://kushaldas.blogspot.com

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Event Report
by "Guillermo Gómez S." 28 Feb '07

28 Feb '07

Hi all This is just to inform about our 2nd event in Venezuela last Saturday, g33k-party. It went fine, assistance was basically myself and a small group of new followers in this small city La Victoria, Aragua state. We had a couple of presentations and very nice party including solving hw/sw issues for assistant's laptops. In this new group we might have a new female ambassador, our first in venezuela, so i ask also for help promoting her to this position. She's so enthusiastic that i believe we must recruit her asap. She will really help me organizing more effectively more events. Talking about events, two proposals in my country: 1.- Presence in Flisol 2007 (april 28th),regional event, pls look at http://www.installfest.info/, event includes 13 countries. 2.- A FUDConf Caracas in an earlier date (please need advice if it makes sense to call it that way, and if some FP's people can come in an participate) kr -- Gomix Guillermo Gómez S. cms fedora-ve http://www.fedora-ve.org blog http://blog.gomix.org soporte fedora-ve en irc.freenode.net, canal fedora-ve lista email fedora-ve(a)googlegroups.com Key fingerprint = 3143 8BDB 48A2 3241 E62A B743 D177 CAD7 3205 A464

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