On Tue, 2010-09-14 at 09:54 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote:
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 02:29:13AM +0100, Tristan Santore wrote:
> On 13/09/10 23:44, Juan M. Rodriguez wrote:
> >
> >
> > 2010/9/13 Larry Cafiero <larry.cafiero(a)gmail.com
> > <mailto:larry.cafiero@gmail.com>>
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 1:12 PM, threethirty <three(a)threethirty.us
> > <mailto:three@threethirty.us>> wrote:
> >
> >
> > <rant>
> > We should be actively taking down barriers to joining this
> > community not
> > erecting them.
> > </rant>
> >
> >
> > And how, exactly, is the painfully simple act of registering an IRC
> > nickname, taking all of a grand total of 30 seconds (if you type
> > slowly) as described in a prior e-mail, a barrier?
> >
> > Get real, Justin. This is no more a barrier than signing the FAS; in
> > fact, it's probably less of one.
> >
> > Further, there's a reason that unregistered nicks do not get into
> > #fedora, but I don't know what it is exactly. Does anyone have any
> > background on this?
> >
> > Larry Cafiero
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> > The reason a lot of channels started the registration barrier is to stop
> > the number of spambots that suddenly arose on Freenode. Registered spam
> > bots are easier to mute or ban :)
> >
> > I'm not sure if spam is still an issue in Freenode, I haven't seen one
> > in months.
> >
> > --
> > Ing. Juan M. Rodriguez Moreno
> > Desarrollador de Sistemas Abiertos
> > Sitio:
http://proyectofedora.org/mexico
> >
> >
> >
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>
> Also, Freenode's registration process has nothing to do with the Fedora
> project, Red Hat or any other FOSS project on freenode. It is up to the
> freenode board. Further, I think the registration process keeps a lot of
> issues at bay, so as the requirement in the Fedora Project channels, to
> be registered.
>
> I have a suggestion to make though. If you believe it is hard for users
> to join/register for freenode, why don't you make a few new wiki pages,
> with GUI screen shots, to help new users ? IMHO that would be a better
> approach to take, we could then link them from the get-help pages.
The get-help page is here:
http://fedoraproject.org/en/get-help
It actually contains a text paragraph on how to connect to IRC, but
really that ought to be a link out to a wiki page that people can
maintain more easily. That wiki page is probably here:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/IRCHowTo
It could use some updating, and it should stay oriented on a GUI
program, which tends to be easier for new users. I like irssi too but
I wouldn't send a first-timer to it.
So the steps to fix this issue would be:
* Update the wiki page
* Ask the websites team if they'll accept a patch for that section on
the get-help page, and why
* Use the instructions here to send a correction to the websites team:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_fix_bugs_on_the_Fedora_Project_website
Justin, interested in working on this?