On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 5:59 AM, Jiri Eischmann <eischmann(a)redhat.com> wrote:
Ruth Suehle píše v Pá 03. 05. 2013 v 14:06 -0400:
> | > I would rather see the ambassadors do something to thank people for
> | > contributing that everyone who contributes to Fedora is eligible for.
> | > Why should ambassadors get t-shirts when packagers and doc writers and
> | > on and on don't?
> | >
> | > We have some access to funding. Let's spend some of that to thank
> | > people for helping Fedora but not limit it to ambassadors.
>
>
> I initially was going to say that I like the idea of rewarding people for doing a
little more (like those who throw
> release parties), but this is a good point. There are lot of people helping Fedora
just as much in other ways.
This idea was meant to replace the old reward program for release party
organizers which is why it was originally limited to them (btw release
party can be organized by any contributor, it's not limited to
ambassadors). I have absolutely no problem to include other teams, too.
But there are several problems to solve.
For the record I am against buying dinners and giving trips to FUDCons
and whatever else to release party organizers as well. Regardless of
who can in theory organize a release party these goodies are being
given by ambassadors to other ambassadors for honestly not doing very
much.
Compare this effort to that expended by QA or Design release after
release and there are never any goodies for them. We could be better
ambassadors internally by giving a thank you to those working hard
elsewhere in the project. I'd be fully behind an effort to send a
thank you to the QA team.
Criteria: who's going to get a T-shirt? With the release party
reward
program, it's very simple: everyone who is an event owner of a release
party.
How about everyone who contributes a design for wallpaper? How about
everyone who participates in a test day? It isn't that hard to find
easy ways to identify people outside of the ambassador group.
So every team/spin/... which wants to be involved needs to define
some
criteria, or we can simply give T-shirts away to anyone who applies and
has at least some sign of contribution until we run out of T-shirts.
We have raffled off t-shirts to contributors in the past. The
logistics of any large scale thank you program is going to be
difficult. But I don't see any real impediment to thanking one group
this time and another next time either.
Distribution&Cost: with the release parties, the distribution of
T-shirts is fairly easy and cheap, at least in some of the regions. In
EMEA, we send packages with media and swag to every release party, so
distributing T-shirts is just a matter of including them in the
packages. Sending T-shirts to various contributors would be logistically
more complicated and expensive because we'd have to send them in extra
packages. So are we going to have enough money not only for T-shirt
production, but also for shipping which won't land in this quarter for
sure? Who is going to package and send tens or hundreds of T-shirts?
Well, ambassadors in NA did exactly that for the t-shirt raffle. As I
said before though I do agree this doesn't scale. But at the same
scale we have here we could I am sure give t-shirts to the QA or
Design contributors instead of to ambassadors for a change.
John