I know G sent it, but I didn't see it anywhere, figured it was safe
to send twice rather than never.
< gregdek> Can you hear me now?
< kulll> yes
< gregdek> Good. :)
< herlo> hi
< stickster> WELCOME TO GLOBAL MEET.
< herlo> GLOBAL?
< stickster> Oh, we going global, yo.
< gregdek> Heh.
< rislam> :)
< herlo> stickster: we do have a World Domination Plan
< herlo> rislam: hey!
< Sonar_Guy> o.O
< rislam> how r u herlo
< ke4qqq> indeed
< herlo> rislam: doing well, missed you last couple weeks
< quaid> oi
< ke4qqq> yes good to see you.
< rislam> oh thank you
< quaid> ne1 got the gavel?
< herlo> quaid: thought it was gregdek but if not, its ke4qqq
* quaid still doesn't have the riddim of Tue at 6 :)
< quaid> coo'
< ke4qqq> ok, well lets start then
< rislam> i was busy with some stuff here, could not attend the meeting
< ke4qqq> rollcall
< gregdek> GregDeKoenigsberg :)
< herlo> herlo
< rislam> RashadulIslam
< quaid> [[User:Kwade|quaid]]
-!- herlo changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Fedora NA Ambassadors Meeting
< gregdek> quaid: Nice wikilingo!
* quaid messed it up
< quaid> [[User:Kwade|Karsten Wade]] would be better :)
* stickster here too
* iWolf wanders in
< ke4qqq> others will wander in... Alright first up FAmSCo ..... iWolf?
< iWolf> The meeting last week was canceled due to lack of attendance.
Several of the famsco members were out of town or away on vacation
< iWolf> We should be meeting tomorrow at our normally scheduled time: 20:00UTC
< iWolf> so no status change, happy to answer questions though.
< herlo> okay, what do we have for FAMSCo needing approval?
< iWolf> or add items to the famsco agenda if need be :)
< ke4qqq> hearing nothing, can we move on?
< herlo> so say we all
< ke4qqq> moving on https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/NA
< iWolf> fine with me, you can always ping me later or email if
something comes up.
< ke4qqq> check out the task list
* inode0 waves
< ke4qqq> inode0: herlo: me: report on contacting people
< ke4qqq> where do we stand
< herlo> ke4qqq: who has texas? is that me?
< herlo> if so, I have another to add for the Dallas metro area
< kulll> zzz
< ke4qqq> inode0: is tx iirc
< inode0> I went through the list and decided to send our personal
mail rather than form mail, have contacted about half
< inode0> there are 3 in TX iirc
< ke4qqq> inode0: what kind of response?
< herlo> I will be sending him a bunch of LiveCDs shortly
< herlo> he's coming up for UTOSC...
< herlo> inode0: are you TX?
< inode0> yes, and yes there are 3 that I know of in TX
< herlo> inode0: sure, but this is a new person, not someone who
< herlo> inode0: k, I'll put him under your jurisdiction
< inode0> name?
< herlo> John Taber, he was here last couple weeks
< inode0> I have him on my list already
< herlo> he has a wiki page
< herlo> okay
< herlo> he's really new
< herlo> I have a bunch of LiveCDs set up for him. He'll be teaching
at UNT or SMU
< inode0> and I should get the rest of the mail out this week, will
report numbers next week
* ke4qqq has finished sending emails - but precious little response
< inode0> lots of empty space in the central US
< herlo> I've only heard back from 3, 2 of which wanted in and are here.
< herlo> the other was happy, but couldn't dedicate time...
< inode0> 8 states with no ambassadors
< herlo> inode0: if that's all...
< inode0> translates to new opportunities
* herlo needs to update the map
< herlo> inode0: the plan is to get major cities too
< herlo> and rislam, do you have anything for canadia?
< ke4qqq> so how are we going to target those non-ambassador states
< inode0> which major cities in South Dakota do you mean? :)
* ke4qqq notes that we need to add rislam to that task
< herlo> inode0: lol, uh Bismark?
< rislam> nothing much
< herlo> or is that ND?
< herlo> must be Pierre
< rislam> but there is 2 event going on at ottawa and toronto
< herlo> ooh, great. Are they on the event list?
* herlo looks
< rislam> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents
< rislam> yes they are already
< herlo> w00t!
< rislam> i try to attend the toronto symposium on October
< rislam> Greg is also there with his speech.
< ke4qqq> outstanding - alright hopefully we'll get all of the
existing ambassadors contacted by end of the month.....shall we move
to the next task?
< ke4qqq> herlo care to update us on event kits and shipping and stuff?
< ke4qqq> don't want to still the thunder from the other agenda item
but it is a task?
< ke4qqq> s/still/steal
< herlo> ke4qqq: I'd like to start off with proper naming conventions
< herlo> its EventBox for Events
* ke4qqq slaps his own hand
< herlo> and AmbassadorKit for Ambassadors at ad-hoc events
< herlo> or random meetings
< herlo> The plan for AmbassadorKits which I don't have fully layed
out is to have the following
* ianweller lurks
< herlo> One DIY box / container
< herlo> holding 5-10 CDs/DVDs
< herlo> a tshirt or two
< herlo> and 4 or 5 Fedora labeled USB sticks
< rislam> tshirt: 1 is owesome but 2 is perfect
< herlo> all wrapped in a nice shrink wrapped package
< inode0> can we squeeze in some stickers and buttons too?
< herlo> inode0: absolutely, just forgot to mention them
< herlo> the price per unit is around $40
< rislam> is it on $USD
< herlo> we need to get that price down just a little to make it cost effective
< herlo> rislam: yes
< iWolf> herlo: you have prices on the usb sticks?
< herlo> iWolf: not yet
< inode0> those are likely the expensive part
< herlo> but I have a general idea that those will be the most costly part
* ke4qqq could live without USB drives
< herlo> so for the first round, we may not ship those, but I think
liveUSB is essential
< stickster> Guys, I'm still unclear on where these come from?
< stickster> How do they get replenished?
< ke4qqq> from the regional ambassadors
< stickster> Is that where RHT funding for an event goes?
< herlo> stickster: hold on, getting to that
< stickster> herlo: Ah, OK, sorry
< herlo> but to answer sticksters questions
< stickster> herlo: Go at your own pace, ignore me
< herlo> the items will come from a Media distributor, which ke4qqq
and I have been working on
< herlo> as well, tshirts are needed, I've ordered a bunch from
screenprinters on the FedoraResources page
< herlo> i think if they do a good job, we could start getting those from there
< herlo> or do a piecemeal distribution
< herlo> from a spreadshirt like store
< herlo> as far as replenishment, we believe it would be good to get
them built up once a quarter and have them at the regional ambassadors
< herlo> as far as monetary requirement, I feel liek this should not
affect the event budget but rather either have its own budget or come
from discretionary funds...
< herlo> does that help stickster
< herlo> thoughts?
< gregdek> Yep.
< stickster> herlo: Somewhat.
< ke4qqq> this is essentially how gregdek and spevack have been handling things
< ke4qqq> but it's been all back channel
< herlo> this is still an unfleshed out idea btw, getting closer, however
< stickster> At the end of the day, though, the money for these kits
comes out of the same pot as everything else.
< ke4qqq> big events get funding - the rest ask greg or max for media
and swag and get it.
< stickster> So if we spend, say, $1K on all the kits, that's $1K less
for the event pool.
< ke4qqq> yes and we will have to probably do more like EMEA and
manage more of the funding rather than have it allocated to specific
< iWolf> ke4qqq: i beleive a fair amount of that is left over stuff
from events already budgeted.
< inode0> stickster: this is part of the event pool too
< ke4qqq> iWolf: I have no doubt about that.
< stickster> inode0: But herlo said, " I feel liek this should not
affect the event budget but rather either have its own budget or come
from discretionary funds"
< stickster> So I just wanted to clarify that.
< inode0> these will support ambassadors at local events so I think of
it as event support
< herlo> stickster: according to the Q3 budget I saw, we have a $500
budget in discretionary funds
< herlo> split 4 ways, that $125 each region in the NA
< herlo> which means about 3 AmbassadorKits per quarter
< iWolf> there isn't really enough in the kit to support an event
though, right? I few LiveCDs, a t-shirt and maybe a USB key?
< herlo> its not intended for an eVENT
< herlo> oops
< herlo> capslock on
< iWolf> :)
< inode0> that old definition of event problem again
< herlo> right
< herlo> Events use EventBox
< iWolf> okay, forget I said event.
< herlo> AmbassadorKits are for ad-hoc items. Chance meetings,
something more inforal
< ke4qqq> plus events would get funding
< herlo> informal
< herlo> we're trying to change that definition for sure. :)
< inode0> I give a talk to 25 people at a local NPO - whether that is
an event or not that is the sort of thing this can be used for and it
wouldn't consume all of it I don't think
< iWolf> i would think you would go through the kit for 25 people,
< herlo> inode0: it probably would, but you could do that once a
quarter and we could easily ship you another prefabbed package
< iWolf> but, i may be wrong.
< inode0> you could but you wouldn't need to
< herlo> its a way of getting resources to people who need them in a
short amount of time without really affecting the budget
< herlo> I can see us possibly adding more Media as well, maybe 20 CDs or so
< iWolf> i guess i don't see it as being enough resources, as I would
think i would go through a kit in pretty short order.
< iWolf> herlo: more media would help.
< herlo> LiveUSBs will be the costly part
< iWolf> herlo: cause the more professional looking media does look
much better than the home burnt stuff.
< herlo> iWolf: well one nice part is the box will be reusable
< herlo> iWolf: agreed
< iWolf> here's the con to Live USBs from my perspective.
< iWolf> they are pricey, and someone could easily just wipe the key
and look at is "hey, free USB key."
< iWolf> it's the whole "bang for the buck" thing.
< iWolf> Now, I would love to see us be able to hand out LiveUSB keys
like candy, they are awesome - but the money thing comes into play.
< herlo> iWolf: I don't disagree
< stickster> iWolf: +1
< herlo> however, I see them as a marketing tool if we put a fedora
label them too
* quaid offered them with F10 Alpha for anyone who would file a bug :)
< iWolf> herlo: how about USB key stickers?
< herlo> someone gets a free usb stick sure, but so what, fedora was
< ke4qqq> iWolf: they are a bit more than a tshirt - so no real difference
< iWolf> someone brings their own key and we use a LiveUSB station to
make it a Live key and then add a sticker.
< gregdek> We need to get the sticker thing sorted.
< herlo> iWolf: that's my argument, don't do stickers, have them
imprinted. But that costs more. Its a debate for us to have when we
have a vendor
< herlo> for now, its a pipe dream
< iWolf> ke4qqq: here is the trick to shirts - we sell them for dirt cheap.
< quaid> I like the bubble stickers
< herlo> iWolf: I don't like the idea of selling them
< quaid> what is cost on a shirt? print + ship?
< iWolf> herlo: it worked very, very well for us at OLF one year.
< herlo> quaid: I got a price of 4.65 + 1.25 for anything larger than XL
< herlo> that was for approx 55 shirts
< quaid> $6 for a shirt then ...
< herlo> sure
< iWolf> herlo: the theory is, *anyone* will take a free t-shirt, but
it might not get worn. Pay $10 for a shirt and you will probably wear
< herlo> give or take
* iWolf has *lots* of free t-shirts in the closet that never get worn
< herlo> iWolf: sure, but to me it looks like we're trying to make
money off them.
* inode0 has a closet full of free t-shirts he never wears
< herlo> iWolf: I don't, I only have shirts I like. I have several
free ones I wear
< iWolf> herlo: we explained to everyone that all funds go right back
to Fedora to help get folks to events.
* herlo thinks its a matter of opinion
< iWolf> people had no issues with it.
< herlo> iWolf: did you sell out?
< iWolf> herlo: I do agree, its a matter of opinion.
< iWolf> herlo: yes, we sold out.
< herlo> iWolf: so one thing I think about that
< herlo> is that this is an event vs informal discussion
< herlo> iWolf: did you sell out at an event?
< herlo> or was it just one or two shirts?
< herlo> see the difference?
< iWolf> herlo: yeah, sold out at an event.
* inode0 notes that when asked to give a talk at the local church
about the olpc he will not try to sell any swag
< herlo> ambassadorkits will just have a couple, we could give those
away and interest someone who might not otherwise be interested...
< iWolf> herlo: yeah, different scenarios may call for different tactics.
< herlo> iWolf: so we're back to Events vs Ad-Hoc
* herlo is focusing on Ad-Hoc only atm
< herlo> which is the intent of the AmbassadorKit
< inode0> I think one should just use care in choosing who to give them to
< herlo> I hope I'm not offending or frustrating anyone...
< herlo> for events, let's sell them
* ke4qqq notes that we are 40 minutes into the meeting but isn't
offended or frustrated
< herlo> for ad-hoc maybe not
< iWolf> herlo: you're fine.
< herlo> :)
< inode0> agreed - do some selling at big events
< herlo> just making sure...
< herlo> so does this make sense for an AmbassdorKit
< ke4qqq> doesn't know about the actual quantity/makeup of contents
but likes the idea.
< inode0> I only see an issue when we have 500 ambassadors giving a talk a month
< stickster> inode0: I long for that problem.
< herlo> inode0: sure, but if we get there, we'll have better problems
to deal with
< ke4qqq> if we have 500 people giving a talk each month we'll get funding
< herlo> stickster: yay!
< inode0> so we have a new goal
< herlo> yup
< ke4qqq> ok so moving on transfer policy?
< rislam> i think so inode0
< herlo> yay
< herlo> +1 for moving forward
< ke4qqq> update on transfer policy for eventbox?
< ke4qqq> herlo?
< ke4qqq> moving forward - iwolf with the move to swag budgets being
moved to owners do we obviate the need for famsco to handle media
production regardless of vendor for NA?
< herlo> oh sorry
< herlo> I'm not ready for that, other than to say that now that I
have a good plan for AmbassadorKit, EventBox will be a breeze
< herlo> next week
< ke4qqq> k
< ke4qqq> and thus can we do away with that task?
< herlo> oh, we're doing tasks aren't we? I thought that
AmbassadorKit discussion was for the meeting item :) hehe
< herlo> ke4qqq: which task?
< iWolf> ke4qqq: i think a lot depends on the plan for media
production by regional leaders. i.e. we would want to make sure there
is a solid plan in place for media production.
< iWolf> ke4qqq: does that make sense? not sure that came out right...
< ke4qqq> or is there still something to be done there?
< ke4qqq> yes
< ke4qqq> iWolf?
< ke4qqq> famsco media production
< ke4qqq> that iwolf had
< ke4qqq> lets change that task then and see if our plan meets with
< ke4qqq> is that worthwhiel
< ke4qqq> worthwhile even?
< inode0> isn't media production through karlie?
* herlo will brb
< iWolf> ke4qqq: i think that would be best, you guys come up with a
solid plan and then we run it past famsco - with plenty of lead time
< ke4qqq> ok
< iWolf> inode0: NA won't have as much media if it goes through Karlie.
< ke4qqq> lets slate that for Sep1
< ke4qqq> is that ok?
< iWolf> ke4qqq: i think that is a good goal. we can keep famsco/max
updated as things move forward too, if warranted.
< ke4qqq> inode0: no swag is coming from FAMSCO or RH - it's all event
< ke4qqq> that's handed to the owners
< ke4qqq> ok
* ke4qqq will change the task shortly
< inode0> sorry, I got muddled on the media production
< ke4qqq> moving on. iWolf: FAD?
< ke4qqq> inode0: so did we, new budget changed everything
< iWolf> ke4qqq: i have the post to the m-l, we sort of talked
schedule in the f-amb channel. I think its down to me needing to get
off my butt and get the FAD wiki page up with the tentative schedule
and some m-l posts/blog posts out.
< ke4qqq> ok - anything we can help with?
< herlo> back
< iWolf> ke4qqq: everyone nag me if I don't have something up by the
end of the weekend? :)
< ke4qqq> ok, we can do that. ready to move on?
< iWolf> fine with me.
< ke4qqq> next is must/coulds/shoulds which is mine
< ke4qqq> the page is up here:
< zodbot> <http://tinyurl.com/6f6hth> (at fedoraproject.org)
< herlo> ke4qqq: I thought we were going to put it out to Karlie as an
option to meet what we saw...
< herlo> pricewise and such...
< herlo> sorry to move us backward
< ke4qqq> herlo: we are to work on it as regional - and report back
< ke4qqq> essentially it becomes our decision
< herlo> regional how?
< herlo> ahh, okay
< ke4qqq> you me and inode0 end up making the decision
< ke4qqq> and famsco gives blessing
< ke4qqq> and rislam
< herlo> moving forward then...
< rislam> :)
< ke4qqq> the above page
< ke4qqq> please edit
< ke4qqq> change
< ke4qqq> comment on
< inode0> comment on coulds - #fedora and other IRC places should have
at least equal billing with fedoraforums.org I think
< ke4qqq> inode0: please make the change on #fedora
< ke4qqq> I mean on
< ke4qqq> the above page
< ke4qqq> hearning nothing else - moving on....herlo care to tackle
the last task
< inode0> I probably have some other thoughts on that page too
< rislam> its already perfect.
< herlo> sure
< herlo> ke4qqq: can do
< herlo> so here's the deal with the last task. I plan on getting
more feedback in the list over the next few weeks but the idea is that
we're doing much more as NA Ambassadors than we're reporting
< rislam> add finger print and gpg key on the page
< herlo> I'd like to improve that by having the Regionals take on a
reporting / gathering role
< herlo> rislam: where does that fit?
< inode0> those aren't required any more are they?
< inode0> in FAS?
< rislam> to the should
< rislam> "should"
< herlo> oh, okay
* herlo wasn't sure where that went... sounds good to me
< rislam> when they sending emails or contact other person to the community
< inode0> I thought that was dropped for a reason?!
* ke4qqq notes we are an hour in
< stickster> inode0: It was dropped as a basic requirement to be a contributor.
< rislam> yeah
< gregdek> Reporting is key, I think.
< stickster> inode0: It's useful for Ambassadors for a number of
reasons, though not requierd.
< herlo> I don't think we have to have it, but I think it'd be okay if
we asked them and they said it could be there
< stickster> *required
< herlo> so I think it goes in 'coulds
< ke4qqq> stickster: reporting is only required for funded events, a
lot is going on without funding
< ke4qqq> and thus unreported
< herlo> but I'd like to see more of the reporting on funded and
< inode0> wonders about blogging in shoulds to be honest
< ke4qqq> yes, we want to trumpet the stuff that's going on regardless
< herlo> whether it be as simple as working in #fedora or
fedoraforum.org we should give karma or soemthing for this at minimum
< stickster> ke4qqq meant gregdek probably
< herlo> or LUG meetings that didn't get blogged, but we found out
somehow. Let's trumpet the horn for them...
< gregdek> It's hard to motivate folks to talk, I think.
* ke4qqq does'nt think that - most appears to be a percieved lack of authority
< herlo> gregdek: and I think we can talk for them some if they just
even mention it...
< inode0> here is the thing
< ke4qqq> I am going to pick on lcaifero - he asked if he needed
permission to sign up an event in his own state.....wasn't asking for
funding or anything just to show up.
< inode0> some people are comfortable talking to other people, even
large groups, but are less comfortable about blogging about it
< gregdek> Right.
< herlo> inode0: agreed, that's part of the point. But I want to
track *all* activity we know about in Fedora NA
< inode0> even informal reporting to regional ambassadors who could
pass on a summary would be helpful
< quaid> blog and/or email to list and/or email to regional leader who
can blog about it themselves
< herlo> whether its blogged, emailed or just a rumor that we chase down...
< quaid> inode0: jinx!
< gregdek> It's that lack of authority that we need to explode, too.
< herlo> quaid: right on
< gregdek> I find that everywhere.
< herlo> inode0: right on
* herlo jinxed himself :)
< herlo> gregdek: clarify your lack of authority exploding statement...
< gregdek> Heh.
* herlo is confused is all
< stickster> We need to let people know they can claim the power
< gregdek> What I mean is, I think it's not unusual for people to
think they need "permission" to attend an event on Fedora's behalf.
< gregdek> Exactly.
< gregdek> Thanks, stickster. Much more succinct.
< stickster> me talk pretty
< herlo> stickster: ahh, thx
< herlo> stickster: one day :)
< iWolf> i think this is where the mentoring ideas you guys ( herlo,
inode0 and ke4qqq ) have come into play.
< rislam> i am learning too
< herlo> iWolf: yeah, don't forget about rislam, he's a regional leader too :)
< iWolf> oops! my fault - rislam too!
< rislam> :)
< herlo> hehe
< rislam> thx you all
< herlo> so I think the point of this is to help those who either
aren't reporting or can't report for one reason or another
< rislam> i go with herlo, its true
< herlo> and we track this info, bring it to the famsco meetings and
say look, we have X more events this quarter than were on the events
< ke4qqq> +1
< rislam> the meeting is about to finish, right?
< quaid> do we want a way to actually track the data gathered?
< ke4qqq> yes
< quaid> like a spreadsheet, table, database, etc.
< ke4qqq> we want to track contributors signed up
< ke4qqq> talks given
< ke4qqq> people talked to
< ke4qqq> I am almost convinced we need a CRM type application
< gregdek> KISS. :)
< quaid> well
* ke4qqq is getting confused talking to the 4 different schools I am talking to
< quaid> let's start with a CSV file
* ke4qqq claims the stupid title gregdek applied :)
< quaid> maybe each region keeps one for now?
< quaid> we can merge them regularly, as long as the field names are identical
< quaid> and that can be sucked in to a db in the future if needed.
< ke4qqq> is it a task to develop those fields?
< quaid> <eoidea>
< quaid> yes
< herlo> quaid: I think we could actually keep this in a csv file if
we had a decent CRM :)
< rislam> i have to go now people
< herlo> rislam: thanks
< rislam> i will read the rest with the email send
< ke4qqq> thanks rislam
< herlo> quaid: hmm, interesting thought...
< iWolf> rislam: cya
* herlo mulls it around his noggin
< rislam> See you soon all
< rislam> tc
< quaid> herlo: keep an ODS file in your fedorapeople place, or we can
make a hosted project for it ...
< quaid> or attach to the wiki
< ke4qqq> quaid: having experience managing a community would you like
to take on the task of developing the info we need to track ?
< herlo> quaid: ooh, I have got it...
< herlo> google doc :)
< quaid> herlo: you looking for a punch in the nose?
< quaid> :D
< herlo> lol
< ke4qqq> ready to move on?
< herlo> quaid: k, let's talk about this a bit more next week...
< herlo> ke4qqq: +1
< ke4qqq> we've talked about item 3 on the agenda already - so we'll
move on past that
< ke4qqq> herlo: UTOSC?
< herlo> ke4qqq: ordered 55 tshirts today, cost about $300
< herlo> looking to create an order for stickers tomorrow
< herlo> have 350 (or so) bits of Media to give away
< herlo> and
< herlo> we have 2 ppl from Fedora (non-ambassadors) coming down to
help man the booth. Along with Stickster and jsmith
< herlo> things are falling into place quite nicely
< stickster> And quaid, you're sending on some booth deco, yes?
< iWolf> herlo: sounds like they are coming together quite nicely.
< herlo> any suggestions out there? I will have a few dollars left
over at this point probably, but I figure I can use that to ship the
eventbox (which quaid is shipping next week)
< quaid> stickster: aye
< stickster> herlo: Blue painters tape
< stickster> 1 roll.
< quaid> herlo: which is just a mailing tube at the moment, plus a few
hooks and stuff I'll tuck in with the t-shirts
< herlo> iWolf: yes, I'm excited. Things are moving quite nicely. In
fact, tonight I'm installing 5 fedora boxen for the
< herlo> stickster: good call, but UTOSC will have that for you
< stickster> hee hee
< herlo> quaid: I intend to improve that with some of the leftover funds as well
< herlo> won't be a ton, but probably enoughfor a shipping box
(lightweight) and shipping itself
< herlo> of course, it depends on how difficult it will be to work
with the tubes...
< herlo> I should point out that UTOSC has solidified the booths and
fedora will get either an 8x10 or a 6x10 booth, but should be plenty
< stickster> Sure sounds that way to me
* stickster will try to steal his daughter's XO.
< herlo> stickster: I have one too. Was considering upgrading it to F9 version
< ke4qqq> gregdek: any update on my XO idea?
< quaid> herlo: the tube isn't required, actually; the big banner
roles up fairly short, as long as it can avoid being crushed
< quaid> maybe cut the tub in half so it fits in a box :)
* quaid realizes he can do that with the t-shirts too
< gregdek> ke4qqq: Nope.
< stickster> herlo: Is there anything you're depending on me to bring?
other than a good attitude and some speechifying?
< herlo> quaid: I'll see what I can do. Was thinking a small long box
might just do it...
< herlo> stickster: not that I can think of, heard Fedora had a flag,
but otherwise, I'll be at the airport around 6:30-6:45pm on Wednesday
to pick you up :)
< quaid> herlo: I'll do some measurements; if it's worth it, I'll saw
the tube down (60/40), seal one end, and fit it all within the big box
< stickster> We haz a flag?
< herlo> dunno, just heard tht
< herlo> that
* stickster has never seen it if so
< herlo> quaid: k, cool
< stickster> gregdek: quaid: do you know anything about this flag?
< inode0> stickster: you should have a flag!
< gregdek> Banner?
< stickster> I know we have some sort of vinyl or cloth banner
< gregdek> I know about banners.
< gregdek> We've got four:
< herlo> dunno, I was just told this once, but I have no credible resource
< stickster> That's what quaid is sending, I thought.
< gregdek> Yes, that's what I thought too.
< gregdek> One Big Fedora Banner.
< inode0> what great pictures we could have of the flag being planted
as Fedora claims one event after another
< herlo> okay, all is well
< gregdek> Three Little Fedora Posters.
< herlo> w00t! I'm happy to print more posters too...
< quaid> herlo: we need one or two live USB posters, on vinyl, with
grommets, and have them be generic enough to use for multiple
< herlo> I can do that probably. We'll see how my time is early next week
* quaid wonders ... when does shipping this stuff around cover the
cost of "everyone having a set"
< herlo> quaid: I like the one that EMEA created
< herlo> quaid: again, EventBox v AmbassadorKit
< herlo> we *wont* have EventBoxen for everyone
< quaid> herlo: I'm going to be back and forth at Kinkos the next few
days; let's talk outside of the meeting, I could get it done and just
include it in the shipping.
< quaid> herlo: I know, theoretically, yes, but ...
* quaid wonders ... when does shipping this stuff around cover the
cost of "everyone having a set"
< gregdek> Bedtime for me, folks.
< quaid> I just recommend we do the analysis, that's all
< herlo> quaid: sounds good
< quaid> gnight greggie
< iWolf> i have an email that covers some of that question.
< inode0> or at least one person in each big conference city having one
< ke4qqq> thanks gregdek
< gregdek> Take care all. G'nite.
< iWolf> i'll try to dig it up, not sure if it was to an m-l or a
smaller group of people.
< herlo> inode0: I don't think that's necessary
< iWolf> but there is another factor, making it easier for an
ambassador to work an event.
< herlo> unless you are referring to Chicago, NY, etc...
< inode0> I was
< inode0> not Chicago really
< iWolf> you can ship from a central location for $80 or less (if you
can piggyback on an employer's shipping deal).
* stickster is getting ready to hang it up too
* stickster assumes UTOSC part of the convo is over
< herlo> iWolf: agreed...
< ke4qqq> yes lets move on
< herlo> stickster: yep
< herlo> +1 moving on
< ke4qqq> we've talked about ambassador kit
< ke4qqq> so can we move on to open flooor?
< inode0> does stickster want to talk about tonight's mail?
< stickster> inode0: Oh sure
< stickster> But really it's all in the email.
* herlo has to still read that email...
< inode0> shall we make an item for next week then to discuss how to
handle new recruits at conferences?
< stickster> I want to see if we can't have some sort of facility in
FAS so that when an Amb signs up a new contributor, we have a way of
(1) making a list of those people afterward, and (2) having a way of
assigning them to people for further mentoring if desired
< herlo> oh, I did see that, +1
< quaid> this could tie in with a skill set tracker
< ke4qqq> +1 don't know if fas is the way to do it, but think we need
to track and followup
< inode0> FAS would be great for booth signups
< stickster> ke4qqq: Yeah, if possible you really don't want to set up
a whole different system for this.
< ke4qqq> will ambassadors require special perms to see that though?
* herlo thinks FAS is the way
< stickster> ke4qqq: The coolest (and might be easy) way to do this is
to have the equivalent of "foocon08.join.fp.o" which will
automatically give the contributor the necessary tags
< stickster> The procedure won't change, just the site you use.
< stickster> Ideally, that could be set up by request or automation.
< inode0> which would be simple and convenient for us
< stickster> ke4qqq: And if special perms are needed, we can do that
through the FAS groups.
< stickster> So that's it in a nutshell.
* stickster done and really ready to drop.
< inode0> night and thanks
< herlo> me too, I'm done
< ke4qqq> clsoing meeting in 5
< ke4qqq> 4
< ke4qqq> 3
< ke4qqq> 2
< ke4qqq> 1
< ianweller> *boom*
< ke4qqq> good night all thanks for coming
< herlo> ke4qqq: thx
< ke4qqq> np
< quaid> cheers, thx
< ke4qqq> thx
< inode0> you did a good job lurking ianweller
< ke4qqq> yeah join in next time ianweller
< herlo> ke4qqq: next week I won't be at the meeting...
< herlo> I'll try to get you updates by friday btw...
< ke4qqq> ok
< ke4qqq> sounds good
This is Karthik Parvathaneni, doing my B.Tech in Computing Sciences and an
ambassador of Fedora from Hyderabad region, INDIA I dint give in an
Introduction to you guys about myself, Not exactly lazy to do so but i
thought it is a bit childish. Sorry if i am wrong.
Leaving that aside, We (Myself and Satish Eerpini , the Fedora Ambassador of
Secunderabad) are planning to conduct an event under LUG(Linux User
Group)@VIT for Freshmen to create awareness about Fedora Project. We are
Planning to do as an Event where the Fedora Ambassadors can come and Speak
about their Experience on using Fedora and Linux in general. We have planned
to Invite someone form the Fedora Commitee to come aswell. Regarding the
accomodation for the commitee members, we will take care. We just need you
guys to come to our college and share your valuable Experience with us. This
way, we would like to promote fedora at our college and aswell get freshers
knowing the power of open source.
The procedure and dates are not yet decided but the expected days are around
the last week of August (mostly Saturday). We will continu the thread with
other updates. The Event will be conducted in VIT (Vellore Institute of
Technology) at Vellore, Tamil Nadu, India. Expecting people from Bangalore,
Chennai, Hyderabad areas, as they are near by. As the Event is on a
non-working day, hope no problems occur.
People Interested can contact me(callmeno2(a)gmail.com) or Satish(
eerpini(a)gmail.com) for further information or can aswell post their quieries
as reply thread.
Fedora Ambassador - Hyderabad,India
I blog here :
Here at Ahmedabad excellent National level conference will be going to
organized by CSI, Ahmedabad.
Any body can suggest as software specially suitable for above event ??
Suggestions are welcom.
Redhat Channel Partner and Training Partner
16, Sun Rise complex,
Nr. Mansi cross Road,
Satellite Rd, Ahmedabad
25, The Emperor, Fatehgunj, Baroda.
I basically did a c&p of this from my intro email to mkt.
Just in a rush today...ILUG..potd in Dublin
* Born Francis James Murphy prefer Frank
* Waterford City, Ireland
* Invalidity Pension (Narcoleptic), going back to school Sept. to
do PC Repair & Networking (Win98)
* Volunteer Director with Accessitltd (waterford City)
* Try help make Fedora known in the non-linux world.
* What do you want to talk about?: In regards to?
* More audio and Video processing (spin?)
* Anything else you'd like to do?
* Historical qualifications : NCVA Level 2 "Art" (Distinction in
the communications module), City & Guilds (Information
Technology module), Some modules in TV & Radio production NVCA
Leve 2 (Distinction in Research Journalism module)
* What other projects or marketing effors have you worked on in
the past? (List what you think is relevant)
* What level and type of marketing skills do you have? : Nothing
on paper apart from above.
* What other skills do you have that might be applicable?: Not
afraid to talk
* My website(s) are http://www.frankly3d.comhttp://www.posermilitary.com (parked)
My name is Marcelo Massao and I'm from Rio Bonito
*(a city near Rio de Janeiro). I've already been promoted Fedora in
schools, universities and in my job too. I am part of the
magazine "Fedora Brasil".
Well, that's all for today . I'm honored of been working with you guys !
Linux user number 436596
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On Sun, 2008-08-10 at 16:12 -0400, Nick Ali wrote:
> Hi Paul,
> We are trying to get an Atlanta Linux Fest organized for September
> 20th (same day as Software Freedom Day) at IBM offices here. It will
> be an install fest, including some demos and workshops.
> The event will be non-distro specific.
> We are looking for a couple of things. First, someone who can talk
> about Fedora, in non-marketing terms. Maybe even do a demo, but we can
> figure out the specifics later. I believe David Nalley is the Fedora
> Ambassador for this area, but I think he has other plans on that date.
> Second, swag we can use to market the event and hand out to attendees.
> Do you think you can help us out?
We typically set our events schedule (and budget for events) on the 1st
of the month preceding the start of each quarter. The whole list of
events is here:
What that means is that -- for the most part -- our schedule and budget
for September through October have been set. Nevertheless, I'm going to
send this around to the Fedora Ambassadors mailing list to see if anyone
in the Atlanta area might be available to come speak. I'm not sure
whether we will have any funds for schwag, but first let's see if we can
get some people coverage for the event.
Paul W. Frields
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On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 1:40 AM, Luca Foppiano <luca(a)foppiano.org> wrote:
> Hi all,
> I'm Luca and, with other Italian ambassadors I'm organizing Linux Day
> 2008 (planned on October 25th). A more detailed description can be
> founded here .
> Italian Linux day is distributed and a more bit complicated than
> centalized events like, for example, Linux Tag.
> We wish to deliver to every events (but we most probably reduce it on a
> subset due to budget and interest) a box that contains all necessary to
> build a fedora USB station (It's like Ikea  furniture).
> We need to decide a nice name for the box, right now the proposal are:
> * fedora starter kit
> * fedora distribution kit
> * fedora usb kit
> which name do you prefer? if you have another ideas about it, just write
> it ;-)
> We need also artworks; I spoke with Samuele Storari about it and he was
> very enthusiast ;-)
> I also made a request here  which i composed by:
> * box artwork: a small sticker, which will be attached on container box
> (probably we need a new logo, or something can remember people this
> * DVD artwork (same of above)
> * Fedora 10 USB kit artwork (which will similar to fedora 9 arwork but
> with new fedora theme, when will be ready ;-))
> I haven't any idea about what we can represent on artworks.
> I hope you can help us.
> Thanks in advance for all feedback
>  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/LinuxDay/LinuxDay2008
>  http://www.ikea.com/
> Today is Boomtime, the 3rd day of Bureaucracy in the YOLD 3174
> If we were meant to get up early, God would have created us with alarm clocks.
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I think your idea is along the same lines of an idea I submitted last
week. I think this idea is great!
We called it the AmbassadorKit and even have a page dedicated to the
I think it would be advantageous for us to work together on this as we
seem to have similar goals. In other words, I'd like to start an open
discussion about how to get an AmbassadorKit with the items you
suggest in place by F10.