[Fwd: Infrastructure report, 2008-08-22 UTC 1200]
by Rahul Sundaram
Subject:
Infrastructure report, 2008-08-22 UTC 1200
From:
"Paul W. Frields" <stickster(a)gmail.com>
Date:
Fri, 22 Aug 2008 08:00:02 -0400
To:
fedora-announce-list <fedora-announce-list(a)redhat.com>
Last week we discovered that some Fedora servers were illegally
accessed. The intrusion into the servers was quickly discovered, and the
servers were taken offline.
Security specialists and administrators have been working since then to
analyze the intrusion and the extent of the compromise as well as
reinstall Fedora systems. We are using the requisite outages as an
opportunity to do other upgrades for the sake of functionality as well
as security. Work is ongoing, so please be patient. Anyone with
pertinent information relating to this event is asked to contact
fedora-legal(a)redhat.com.
One of the compromised Fedora servers was a system used for signing
Fedora packages. However, based on our efforts, we have high confidence
that the intruder was not able to capture the passphrase used to secure
the Fedora package signing key. Based on our review to date, the
passphrase was not used during the time of the intrusion on the system
and the passphrase is not stored on any of the Fedora servers.
While there is no definitive evidence that the Fedora key has been
compromised, because Fedora packages are distributed via multiple
third-party mirrors and repositories, we have decided to convert to new
Fedora signing keys. This may require affirmative steps from every
Fedora system owner or administrator. We will widely and clearly
communicate any such steps to help users when available.
Among our other analyses, we have also done numerous checks of the
Fedora package collection, and a significant amount of source
verification as well, and have found no discrepancies that would
indicate any loss of package integrity. These efforts have also not
resulted in the discovery of additional security vulnerabilities in
packages provided by Fedora.
Our previous warnings against further package updates were based on an
abundance of caution, out of respect for our users. This is also why we
are proceeding with plans to change the Fedora package signing key. We
have already started planning and implementing other additional
safeguards for the future. At this time we are confident there is little
risk to Fedora users who wish to install or upgrade signed Fedora
packages.
In connection with these events, Red Hat, Inc. detected an intrusion of
certain of its computer systems and has issued a communication to Red
Hat Enterprise Linux users which can be found at
http://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2008-0855.html. This communication
states in part, "Last week Red Hat detected an intrusion on certain of
its computer systems and took immediate action. While the investigation
into the intrusion is on-going, our initial focus was to review and test
the distribution channel we use with our customers, Red Hat Network
(RHN) and its associated security measures. Based on these efforts, we
remain highly confident that our systems and processes prevented the
intrusion from compromising RHN or the content distributed via RHN and
accordingly believe that customers who keep their systems updated using
Red Hat Network are not at risk. We are issuing this alert primarily for
those who may obtain Red Hat binary packages via channels other than
those of official Red Hat subscribers."
It is important to note that the effects of the intrusion on Fedora and
Red Hat are *not* the same. Accordingly, the Fedora package signing key
is not connected to, and is different from, the one used to sign Red Hat
Enterprise Linux packages. Furthermore, the Fedora package signing key
is also not connected to, and is different from, the one used to sign
community Extra Packages for Enterprise Linux (EPEL) packages.
We will continue to keep the Fedora community notified of any updates.
Thank you again for your patience.
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#fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug
15 years, 8 months
new ambassador's intro
by Onur Keskin
Hello All Fedora ambassadors,
I am Onur Keskin from Turkey. I am a research assistant in
Mechatronics Engineering at Dokuz Eylul University - Izmir. I am very
happy to be the part of Fedora project.
I hope we will develop the project exponentially.
My research subjects are generally artificial intelligence, nonlinear
control systems, multi-agent systems, parallel computing,
cryptology and information security. My programming skills are
developing around Java, Python, C and C# (just .NET).
I am very happy to help in any time with my knowledge.
I hope we will be in touch as possible as we can.
Have a nice day ..
[you@base ~] $ yum install fedora
--
Mechanical Engineer & Software Developer
For secure contact my GnuPG Key ID is 0x71AD8EE9
15 years, 8 months
Austria / LinuxDay 2008
by Fabian Affolter
Hi all,
There is a small event in Austria near the Swiss, German, and
Lichtenstein border with around 1000 visitors. It's called LinuxDay [1]
(they use the same name as in Italy). We talked about this yesterday
during the Amassadors meeting.
Location : University of Applied Sciences, Dornbirn, Austria
Date : November, 29 2008
Time : 09:00 till 18:00
The Fedora Project was never present before at this event. I would like
to see a Fedora booth or Fedora table there. If you are interested to
represent Fedora at this event, please drop me a line. The deadline for
the "Call for papers" will be at the end of September. Because of that
I would like to make a decision within the next two or three weeks if
Fedora will be there or not.
We missed the deadline for budget. It's only a one day event and I will
try not to spend all the money for OpenExpo ;-) .
Kind regards,
Fabian
[1] http://www.lugv.eu/linuxday.html
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15 years, 8 months
Intro
by R.M.Vasuki
Hi all,
My name is Vasuki and I'm from Bangalore, India.
I am new to Linux/Fedora. I'm just a rookie. :)
For now, I just want to let other people know about Fedora and Linux and one
of my friends said that i can do so by joining this!
But soon, I hope to learn more about Fedora and do more.
Thats all for now..
rgds
Vasuki
15 years, 8 months
New Ambassador : Introduction
by A. Mani
Hello,
My name is A. Mani. I am the new Fedora Ambassador from
Kolkata, India.
Basically I am a Mathematician. My research interests are in Algebra,
Logic, Rough Sets and FOM.
I am good in specifications, formal specifications, R, Prolog and
scientific computing too.
I have been involved in FLOSS and OSS promotion for quite some time
and see a very bright future for the Fedora project. We (the Kolkata
team) intend to include a Fedora session as part of the SFD'2008
programme. I coordinate the activities of ILUG-CALINFO
(www.ilug-cal.info) and am active at LQ too.
In Kolkata, when it comes to Linux and especially among the newbies,
it is "Red Hat" that gets into their heads. So it has been an
experience in migrating many 'users' from RedHat-9/7.2 to Fedora-6+
or even Ubuntu.
My wiki page is at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:amani
Best
A. Mani
--
A. Mani
Member, Cal. Math. Soc
15 years, 8 months
Ambassadors Meeting EMEA - Summary 2008-08-20
by Fabian Affolter
=== News from FAmSCo ===
Please check the ambassadors mailing list about the Release Parties. ->
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/2008-August/msg00...
=== Report current status of Ambassadors Membership ===
There are now over 500 ambassadors registered in the FAS. Check
http://jeffreyt.fedorapeople.org/ambassador-metrics/ for details
=== Events ===
==== FrOSCon ====
MaxSpevack will be there, along with RobertAlbrecht, and a few others.
He is giving a talk on Saturday. He also have a bunch of Fedora 9 Live
CDs (the nice ones, same that we had at LinuxTag). We were hoping to
have the new t-shirts for this event, but they are not ready in time.
That is his fault, and he apologize. ChristophWickert asked about
accomondation because the hotel wasn't able to tell him if they have
reservations for Fedora. MaxSpevack said that they have a bunch of
reservations for "FrOSCon" but he is not sure if we were taken into account
==== FUDCon ====
FUDCon will be in 16 days. Everyone who is coming should already be
signed up. If you signed up for hotel, that will be fully paid for 100%
by Fedora and MaxSpevack hope that everyone will have a WONDERFUL event.
It has been a long time since we had a FUDCon in Europe, and this will
be the first of an annual EMEA
[http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon/FUDConBrno2008 FUDcon]. There are
110 registered attendees. MaxSpevack don't know the exact breakdown of
Red Hat employees from Czech Republic, Red Hat employees from Germany or
other parts of Europe, and Fedora contributors, but he think there is a
very good mix. Next year, we will pick another location in Europe. It
will move around :)
GeroldKassube said that a possible option could be Linux Solution Paris.
Fedora Project will certainly support LinuxSolution Paris, but
MaxSpevack don't think we want to do one FUDCon in September and another
in January. Too close together. Also, the budget has already been
decided through the end of February 2009, and there isn't money for
another FUDCon. But it is important that we continue to support the
French ambassadors, which is why I had a meeting with MrTom and all the
others a few weeks ago.
==== OpenExpo ====
So far there are $1000 USD (approx. 650 EUR) budgeted for this event.
The confirmed booth person is MaxSpevack, TimeaRusz, and FabianAffolter.
FabianAffolter invited all Swiss Fedora contributors to attend but the
feedback is unsatisfactory. Red Hat will be there too. The
accommodation is still not fixed, CDs are fixed, stickers are fixed. We
will bring some of our new t-shirts, which hopefully we can sell to make
the money back. The budget is 650 EUR, but it would be nice if we could
not use all of that, because MaxSpevack think that we will be happy if
we have some extra money that we can use for other EMEA events later on
in the quarter.
==== LinuxDay Italy ====
The Italian Ambassadors are organizing the attendance at this events.
Linuxday in Italy does have owners, and therefore it does have budget.
==== LinuxDay Austria ====
This events have no budget if we still want to do the event, then we
will have to take budget away from other events. FabianAffolter will
think about his attendance
=== Stickers ===
MaxSpevack think we probably need to get more stickers made at some
point, that we can use at different events in EMEA. If someone wants to
take care of that, we can use some budget to pay for it, as long as we
agree on all the prices before we have them produced. He would like to
get more stickers made for general EMEA usage. GeroldKassube will ask
MarcoZiesing to care about the stickers. The budget will be around 200 EUR.
=== PoloShirts ===
GeroldKassube said that maybe we should try to figure out who else need
the Ambassador Polo and try to order at least for FAD 2008.
=== FAD EMEA 2008 ===
SandroMathys already sent out a reminder to the people who did not yet
confirm their attendance. He hope to get the outstanding answers soon
if there's some questions or an issue, feel free to contact him, he'll
try to help as good as he can. Unfortunately, we're very limited on
budget. The new budget plan says we have $2000 ($2000 = about 1250
EUR), which is ok for the hotel but won't pay for food or travel.
SandroMathys hope...if people try not to spend all their event budget,
the budget can get bigger after all. We might also get a little somewhat
from Fedora EMEA e.V. and there's a company in Switzerland that might
sponsor us a little. If FUDCon comes in under budget, we will take some
of that for FAD EMEA and MaxSpevack is doing everything he can to get
FUDCon in under budget by at least $1000. SandroMathys is trying to
find fun events that are free of charge but still a lot of fun - He
already have one very good idea there (surprise).
=== Sponsorship ===
SandroMathys knows a company in Switzerland, he just dropped them a line
to ask for some $ and they are really thinking about how much they can
spend. If you know of such a company in your region, why not ask them
too? Particularly, if you have contacts to somewhere working there.
FrancescoCrippa Is not sure about opportunity to save money on
LinuxDay... actually they're looking for extra sponsor to reach all the
100 events in Italy.... ->
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Sponsorship
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15 years, 8 months
The Education Strategy
by Jack Aboutboul
Hello Everyone,
I realize that some people have been confused, perplexed and perhaps
annoyed at the lack of information being disseminated about what is
going on vis-a-vis some programs being planned in the educational
realm. After my brief comments at the NA ambassadors meeting a few
weeks I would like to outline what has been going on to provide some
clarity as well a grounds for discussions for everything. Let me start
by saying that I apologize if it seemed like this was being done in
secret, which it absolutely isn't, its just the choice was made to keep
everything quiet until we could make some formal announcement in the
coming months and that lead people to believe we were trying to cut
people out of the process, which is not the case at all.
First of all, let me make a few thing we are *NOT* trying to do clear,
based mostly off concerns people have brought to my attention:
1. Create a private initiative - Again, we were just being mum until we
could make sure we would get the most press punch out of this.
2. Uproot/Replace/Rename/Repurpose the Ambassadors program - This is
absolutely not true one iota!!! The purpose that we are considering
this initiative to be a separate entity has nothing to do with anything
malicious. This is intended to be a pilot program and we thought it
might be less of a burned on Ambassadors if it was run by one person
initially, figure out if it has legs, gain some organic growth and then
integrate it into the fold rather than stick in a whole bunch of new
people with seemingly narrow-focused objectives into an already ongoing
and vibrant Ambassadors program.
3. Replace current Ambassadors who are students - Again, not true. We
really would like everyone to keep doing the great job they are already
doing, day in and day out. We didn't start by approaching these
ambassadors, because strategic partnerships with certain key
universities are important to Red Hat as well as Fedora and we are, and
I especially have been, working on building those bridges for the past
few weeks. We don't want to kick anyone out of place, on the
contrary--we are trying to make more places in which people can be.
That being said, I am going to highlight some key pieces of strategy
which for better or worse comprise our Fedora Education Strategy and
feel free to comment on and/or disagree with any of these--thats why I'm
putting this out, to get everyone involved in the process:
1. Open Source Curriculum - We are working with a talented group of
people to try and put together both a platform and set of course
materials in order to teach people and students world wide how to
program using modern software engineering methodologies and with a focus
on Free and Open Software tools and philosophy.
2. Campus Reps - A US Pilot program to try and get students on college
campuses involved in Fedora and general FOSS advocacy. Initially, they
will all report back to one person within Red Hat who can be help
responsible and accountable for all this. Purpose is two-fold, first,
students advocate for open source and fedora on their respective
campus. Second, they provide eyes and ears on the ground and work with
students and faculty to find interesting opportunities. Students also
provide a face for us to the faculty which is familiar to them which
doesnt seem like its some corporate backed scheme to recruit students
without paying their sometimes insane fees. Reps have a few basic
responsibilities, mainly holding one event a semester, whether it be a
tech talk or info session about something fedora or open source related
and maintaining good rapport with faculty to try and make new
opportunities spring up.
3. Red Hat High 2.0 - Redefine RHH as a program working with the
country's elite science and math high schools in order to get students
familiarized with open source at the high school level. This ties in
with the Open Curriculum. We know there are a number of similar
initiatives but none which focus around getting students familiarized
with open source.
Thats basically that, I'm sure everyone will have more questions and
comments and suggestions, so let's get everyone involved in this. What
do you think?
Jack
15 years, 8 months
Ambassadors Meeting EMEA - IRC Log 2008-08-20
by Fabian Affolter
HTML version of the log is here:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2008-08-20/HTML_Log
Raw log is here:
fabian_a> Welcome everybody. Let's have Fedora Ambassadors Meeting EMEA
<cmpahar> hello
* fabian_a take a look around to see who is here
* spevack waves
<fabian_a> Roll call. Please state your first name and surname (in the
past this was your wiki name)
<spevack> Max Spevack
<fugolini> FrancescoUgolini
<red_alert> Sandro "red" Mathys
<fabian_a> FabianAffolter
<killefiz> Sven Lankes
<Frankly3D> FrankMurphy
<fcrippa> FrancescoCrippa
<wonderer1> Henrik Heigl
<cmpahar> ChristosBacharakis
<cwickert> Christoph Wickert
<fabian_a> Just a reminder. Please follow our meeting protocol. Thank
you. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/IRCHowTo#Protocol
<fabian_a> Open our meeting page at
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2008-08-20 for the
agenda if you like.
<rsc> [[User:robert|Robert Scheck]
<fabian_a> Let's start with the news from FAmSCo
<fabian_a> Please check the ambassadors mailing list about the Release
Parties.
<fabian_a>
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/2008-August/msg00...
<fabian_a> Other news from FAmSCo, fugolini?
<fugolini> Just a reminder to see the Max mail about the Q3 budget
<fugolini> for event owners only
<fugolini> eof
<spevack> we'll talk about budget in this meeting, when we get to events
<fabian_a> spevack: +1
<fugolini> yes, it was only a reminder to check the M-L
<fabian_a> Ok, next...Report current status of Ambassadors Membership
<fabian_a> There are now over 500 ambassadors registered in the FAS.
<fabian_a> Check http://jeffreyt.fedorapeople.org/ambassador-metrics/
for details
<fabian_a> Now Events
<fabian_a> Please open Fedora Events
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents
<fabian_a> Let's start with FrOSCon. anybody?
<spevack> !
<spevack> FrOSCon is this coming weekend.
<cwickert> !
<spevack> I will be there, along with Robert Albrecht, and a few others.
I am giving a talk on Saturday. I also have a bunch of Fedora 9 Live
CDs (the nice ones, same that we had at LinuxTag)
<spevack> we were hoping to have the new t-shirts for this event, but
they are not ready in time. That is my fault, and i apologize.
<spevack> EOF
<fabian_a> cwickert,
<wonderer1> ?
* ianweller lurks
<cwickert> has anybody details about accomondation?
<cwickert> I called up Regina hitel but the lady wasn't able to tell me
if they have reservations for us
<cwickert> also tried to contact Robert Albrecht by mail, but no response
<spevack> cwickert: it was my understanding that romal was making
reservation for us at hotel regina
<spevack> cwickert: i am just going to show up and ask for a room :)
<spevack> if they don't have my name!
<cwickert> spevack: mine too,
<cwickert> they have a bunch of reservations for "FrOSCon" but not sure
if we were taken into account
<cwickert> will try to figure that out tomorrow and then inform you
<cwickert> eof
<fabian_a> wonderer1,
<spevack> cwickert: thanks :)
<spevack> cwickert: see you on friday or saturday!
<spevack> eof
<fabian_a> wonderer1,
<wonderer1> spevack: if thera where some CDs over I would be pleased if
you could have them reserved them for an Event in Oktober. And if
somebody have 1 or 2 Polos over (XXL) I also would be pleased. Thanks.
<wonderer1> eof
<spevack> wonderer1: CDs, I can give you. Will you either /msg me or
email me your address and how many you want. Polos, I do not have any.
<cwickert> wonderer1: maybe I can borrow you a polo
<GeroldKa> !
<fabian_a> GeroldKa,
<GeroldKa> maybe we should try to figure out who else need the
Ambassador Polo and try to order at least for FAd
<GeroldKa> good eveing btw
<GeroldKa> eof :-)
<fabian_a> are we done with FrOSCon?
<spevack> hi GeroldKa! EOF
<wonderer1> cwickert: thanks. will see how it goes with kital with new
ones ... but thanks so far.
<spevack> fabian_a: yes, i think so
<fabian_a> FUDCon: this is for spevack
<GeroldKa> bonsoir MrTom
<spevack> FUDCon...
<spevack> well, are there any questions?
<spevack> it is in 16 days.
<spevack> everyone who is coming should already be signed up
<spevack> If you signed up for hotel, that will be fully paid for 100%
by Fedora
<spevack> and I hope that everyone has a WONDERFUL event. It has been a
long time since we had a FUDCon in Europe, and this will be the first of
an annual EMEA FUDcon
<spevack> any questions?
<spevack> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon/FUDConBrno2008
<GeroldKa> ?
<spevack> EOF
<spevack> GeroldKa:
<GeroldKa> how many registered attendees, Max?
<spevack> 110
<GeroldKa> sounds not so bad
<spevack> it is about what I was expecting
<GeroldKa> and which number from Fedora?
<spevack> more may still register
<spevack> GeroldKa: i don't know the exact breakdown of Red Hat
employees from Czech Republic, Red Hat employees from Germany or other
parts of Europe, and Fedora contributors, but I think there is a very
good mix. Just looking over the names, there are a lot of people who I
already know, and a lot of people who i have never met, so for me, it is
a chance to get lots of people either more involved in fedora, or
introduced to how to contribute to fedora
<spevack> EOF
<fabian_a> thanks spevack
<spevack> any other comments or questions about FUDCon?
<spevack> next year, we will pick another location in Europe. It will
move around :)
<GeroldKa> !
<fabian_a> GeroldKa,
<GeroldKa> Just an idea, but why not at LinuxSolution Paris
<GeroldKa> to show the french part of the world, that we are belong to them?
<GeroldKa> just an idea ....
<GeroldKa> eof
<fabian_a> let's move on...OpenExpo
<spevack> well, we (meaning Fedora Project) will certainly support
LinuxSolution Paris, but I don't think we want to do one FUDCon in
September and another in January. too close together. Also, the budget
has already been decided through the end of February 2009, and there
isn't money for another FUDCon. But it is important that we continue to
support the French ambassadors, which is why I had a meeting with MrTom
and all the others a few weeks ago.
<spevack> EOF
<spevack> sorry fabian_a :)
<spevack> !
<fabian_a> there is still a month to go.
<fabian_a> spevack,
<spevack> I want to talk about the budget for OpenExpo
<spevack> because we have so many events, and I want to make sure that
everyone has what they need, but also the money disappears fast.
<spevack> Right now, we have budgeted $1000 USD (approx. 650 EUR) for
the event.
<spevack> Do you think that is more than we need?
<spevack> what are the costs to Fedora for OpenExpo?
<spevack> I will bring CDsw
<spevack> which are already purchased
<spevack> We will bring some of our new t-shirts, which hopefully we can
sell to make the money back.
<fabian_a> the accommodation is still not fixed, CDs are fixed, stickers
are fixed
<spevack> fabian_a: we have stickers already?
<fabian_a> yepp, the small ones form Marco from LinuxTag
<fabian_a> around 30 pieces
<GeroldKa> !
<spevack> fabian_a: well, i would like to get more stickers made for
general EMEA usage
<spevack> fabian_a: so let me just say this.
<GeroldKa> me has also such stickers, also that much
<spevack> The budget is 650 EUR, but it would be nice if we could not
use all of that, because I think we will be happy if we have some extra
money that we can use for other EMEA events later on in the quarter.
<spevack> EOF
<fabian_a> if we need beds in a hotel we need the money because there
are at least 3 people who need a bed
<spevack> fabian_a: well, that is why we have budget :)
<fabian_a> i will take care that we don't need all the money fro this event
<GeroldKa> aber sicher ist es nicht
<fabian_a> any more questions about OpenExpo?
<spevack> i think we probably need to get more stickers made at some
point, that we can use at different events in EMEA. If someone wants to
take care of that, we can use some budget to pay for it, as long as we
agree on all the prices before we have them produced.
<spevack> stickers are easy to mail from one person to another ;)
<spevack> EOF
<GeroldKa> !
<fabian_a> GeroldKa,
<GeroldKa> we should order Marco to take care for them
<GeroldKa> they were excellent
<GeroldKa> and not expensive
<red_alert> +1
<GeroldKa> eof
<kanarip> s/order Marco/kindly request Marco/
<wonderer1> +1
<fabian_a> +1
<cwickert> another +1
<fcrippa> +1
<spevack> +1
<GeroldKa> sorry for my awful english :-) yes and thanks kanarip
<spevack> kanarip: :)
<spevack> kanarip: I ORDER YOU TO WRITE CODE
<spevack> :)
<kanarip> it's so easy giving out orders like that to people like me
<fabian_a> who will tell marco that he will be in charge about the stickers?
<spevack> maybe GeroldKa?
<spevack> who has the good relationship with Marco?
<red_alert> I can, if someone tells me how much $ he should spend
<spevack> red_alert: it depends how much it costs ;)
<cwickert> spevak: petreu has, they shared a room at Berlin
<spevack> how many stickers can we get for 200 EUR? 300 EUR? etc.
<GeroldKa> .. done ...
<GeroldKa> :-)
<spevack> and then we just fit it into the budget somewhere. ;)
<spevack> EOF
<GeroldKa> I asked for a quote @ Marco
<GeroldKa> by mail
<fabian_a> ok
<spevack> what's next?
<fabian_a> there are still some events left
<fabian_a> PCL5. SFD 2008, GITEX, LinuxDay
<spevack> !
<spevack> er, nevermind. :)
<spevack> go ahead
<fabian_a> maybe I will take the LinuxDay
<spevack> LinuxDay is italy, right?
<spevack> all the italian ambassadors are organizing that.
<fcrippa> yes, it is
<spevack> fugolini, fcrippa, lfoppiano, etc.
<fabian_a> this one is in austria
<spevack> fabian_a: ah :)
<fugolini> !
<spevack> if i can say one thing first, fugolini ?
<fugolini> absolutely yes
<fabian_a> there are "LinuxDay" in Italy and Austria
<spevack> LinuxDay in Austria was listed on the FedoraEvents page, but
it had no owner. So on August 1, when we started making the FAMSco
budget, we did not give that event any budget since it had no owner.
<spevack> if we still want to do the event, then we will have to take
budget away from other events.
<spevack> EOF
<spevack> Linuxday in Italy does have owners, and therefore it does have
budget :)
<spevack> EOF
<spevack> how important is the Austria event, compared to all the other
things we want to do in September - November?
<GeroldKa> we have one or two Ambassadors in Austria
<spevack> are either of them at this meeting?
<GeroldKa> but not very active here :-(
<fabian_a> i guess that it will be only a small event, not very important
<GeroldKa> I'm really sure they do a good job
<GeroldKa> but not really in that way that we know about, unfortunately
* spevack shrugs... we have to make tough choices. no owner by the
deadline, which was discussed many times on f-ambassadors-l, so no
budget. if they show up and want to try to make the event happen, we
will see what we can do. That is my opinion.
<spevack> we are trying to do 7 events in EMEA with a budget of about
4000 EUR. It's hard, I know. I am sorry that not every event gets all
the budget that it wants...
<fabian_a> spevack: the event is near the German and the Swiss border
<spevack> i hope we can do better next year, with more budget overall
for Fedora.
<spevack> fabian_a: if we can still pull it together for comparatively
little, then if we have extra budget from OpenExpo we could use it for
Austria.
<spevack> fabian_a: i leave it up to you?
* fugolini This is the total number of events by quarter -> Q1: 28 - Q2:
26 - Q3: 37
<fabian_a> spevack: ok, i will think about my attendance
<spevack> fabian_a: we still have time to figure it all out :)
<fabian_a> spevack: yes, we have
<GeroldKa> if we haven't a owner, it makes not sense to take care for a
budget, does it?
<GeroldKa> thinking about Austria
<fugolini> !
<spevack> GeroldKa: right... but if Fabian is willing to take ownership,
and if he can save money from his openexpo budget, then i have no problem.
<fabian_a> we have stretched the events part enough...anything else
about PCL5. SFD 2008, GITEX, Athens Digital Week, Install Fest Paris or FAD
<spevack> this is part of the philosophy of trying to allow individual
ambassadors freedom with their budgets, for events that are near them.
<spevack> !
<spevack> i have a few quick comments
<spevack> then fugolini needs to talk :)
<spevack> GITEX -- john babich is going. he did a good job last year
<spevack> we have some budget for him this year again
<spevack> Athens digital week came after the deadline... i am sorry
about that for dimitris, but we have no budget for it right now. i will
talk to him about it at FUDCon
<spevack> All the french speaking events, i leave to MrTom, and budget
has been set aside for him.
<spevack> EOF
<spevack> fugolini: ...
<fugolini> nothing, going on, it's late
<fugolini> :)
<spevack> fugolini: sorry if i took too much time
<fugolini> absolutely no problem
<spevack> fabian_a: what else?
<fabian_a> NPO: There are no news from Fedora EMEA as far as I know.
<fabian_a> Now the stage is open...anything else? Any more questions or
issues before we close this meeting?
<red_alert> !
<fabian_a> red_alert,
<red_alert> just some words about FAD EMEA 2008
<red_alert> I already sent out a reminder to the people who did not yet
confirm their attendance, I hope to get the outstanding answers soon
<red_alert> if there's some questions or an issue, feel free to contact
me, I'll try to help as good as I can
<red_alert> unfortunately, we're very limited on budget
<spevack> we have managed to increase the budget for the event, which
will hopefully help a little bit. but we are still on a tight budget.
We picked a very expensive place :)
<fugolini> ?
<red_alert> the new budget plan says we have $2000, which is ok for the
hotel but won't pay for food or travel
<spevack> $2000 = about 1250 EUR
<spevack> fugolini:
<fugolini> Why we didn't book the last FAD place?
<spevack> we tried, but they were already full
<spevack> :(
<red_alert> but $2000 are not the final budget, I hope...if people try
not to spend all their event budget, the budget can get bigger after
all. we might also get a little somewhat from fedora emea e.V. and
there's a company in Switzerland that might sponsor us a little
<spevack> if FUDCon comes in under budget, we will take some of that for
FAD EMEA
<spevack> and I am doing everything i can to get FUDCon in under budget
by at least $1000
<fugolini> But it requires time before say yes or no
<fugolini> As i said and, i think i'm not the only one, this friday is
too early, just because i don't know if i will have the money resource
by the date we will hold the meeting
<fugolini> *for
<red_alert> I'm trying to find fun events that are free of charge but
still a lot of fun - I already have one very good idea there (surprise)
<red_alert> I know, that this Friday is a very early deadline and I
apologize for it
<spevack> red_alert: is there any chance to add one or two more people
later on, if we tell them most of what we expect by this friday?
<fugolini> Personally I can't say yes, just because it's really risky to
say yes and be 20% sure
<red_alert> but you see, the location of last year's FAD has no free
rooms for all of november (not just the picked date!)
<red_alert> the second hotel we asked, the same
<red_alert> this is the third in the row and we were fortunate, that at
exactly that weekend, they have some free rooms
<red_alert> but they want us to book by Friday
<GeroldKa> maybe I have another idea (in Germany)
<GeroldKa> but first I need to check
<GeroldKa> I will let you all know
<fugolini> GeroldKa: that's what i have in mind :)
<fugolini> but by the way, i'm sure at least one from Italy will attend
<GeroldKa> I know fugolini, that you "know me"
<red_alert> I planned to book the rooms we need for sure by Friday and
let them know that we're interested in 1-2 more rooms but can't tell yet
<spevack> fugolini: if you guys can save some of the Linux Day Italy
budget, then you can spend it to help with travel to FAD EMEA for
Italians :)
<GeroldKa> but due a lack of time I had to give up organisation for this FAD
<red_alert> fugolini: I'm sure about two ;)
* fcrippa is not sure about opportunity to save money on linuxday...
actually we're looking for extra sponsor to reach all the 100 events in
Italy....
<fcrippa> ;-)
<red_alert> btw, as I said, I know a company in Switzerland, that bases
part of their business on Fedora (and also Ubuntu and others). I just
dropped them a line to ask for some $ and they are really thinking about
how much they can spend.
<red_alert> if you know of such a company in your region, why not ask
them too? particularly, if you have contacts to somewhere working there
<red_alert> i think, that's it for know from my side EOF
<spevack> fcrippa: i am sorry that there isn't more budget. We have
expanded so much all over the world! Too popular I guess ;)
<fcrippa> !
<fabian_a> fcrippa,
<spevack> we will have a good case to make for next year's budget
<spevack> EOF from me
<fcrippa> I'm interested in "fedora sponsorships" too
<fugolini> me too, thanks to red_alert and spevack for the organization.
I know how difficult is organize such event with a small budget
<fugolini> ops
<fugolini> i'm referring to (23:09:52) spevack: EOF from me
<fugolini> lol
<fcrippa> i've added a point on fad program
<fcrippa> but I'd like to know "policies" or general rules to start
relationship to make sposnorship possible also from Italy
<fcrippa> have fedora emea got any ideas about that?
<spevack> fcrippa: we were talking abou that the other day... i think a
DRAFT wiki page was created somewhere
<fcrippa> eof
* spevack looks around
<GeroldKa> !
<spevack> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Sponsorship
<fabian_a> GeroldKa,
<red_alert> I did set that up, yea:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Sponsorship
<spevack> fcrippa: keep in mind it is a DRAFT :)
<GeroldKa> Just to let you know (to whom it may concern); I'm from now
on afk until 2008-09-07 without Internet
<spevack> GeroldKa: have a great vacation!
<GeroldKa> and now I go to bed (if we're done) *g*
<fugolini> bye
* fcrippa_ is back... sorry... wireless connection is terrible bad...
<wonderer1> ciao Gerold ...
<wonderer1> hy fcrippa ;-)
<red_alert> fcrippa_:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Sponsorship ...in case you
missed the link :)
<fcrippa_> red_alert: yep, I missed :-)
<fcrippa_> thanks!
<fabian_a> are we done for today?
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<fabian_a> Fedora Ambassadors Meeting EMEA 2008-08-20 has been
adjourned. Next meeting in September 2008.
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