21:01-!- herlo changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Fedora Ambassadors North America Meeting -- Starting now 21:02< herlo> roll call 21:02 * herlo is Clint Savage 21:02 * ke4qqq is here 21:02 * quaid is Karsten Wade 21:02 * DemonJester Brian Powell 21:03< lajjr> lajjr is here 21:04< ke4qqq> ok......iwolf doesn't appear to be here - so guess there is no famsco report 21:04< herlo> erg... 21:04-!- crossbytes [n=crossbyt@fedora/crossbytes] has joined #fedora-meeting 21:04 * herlo misses iWolf 21:04< ke4qqq> erg?? 21:04< herlo> that is all 21:05< ke4qqq> so FAD - which inode0 and herlo will tell us about 21:05-!- herlo changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Fedora Ambassadors North America (FAmNA) Meeting -- Agenda: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2008-09-16 21:06-!- inode0 [n=inode0@fedora/inode0] has joined #fedora-meeting 21:06< herlo> ke4qqq: haha, well I missed most of it DemonJester and inode0 were really the ones in charge of that 21:07< ke4qqq> inode0: DemonJester: what can you tell us about FADNA 21:07< DemonJester> inode0: you first? 21:07< inode0> another chance to embarrass myself 21:08< inode0> am I in the right channel now? 21:08< herlo> yes 21:08< DemonJester> yep 21:08< inode0> ok 21:08< inode0> We are trying to get a basic agenda organized although we'll be flexible 21:09< inode0> some important topics are listed on the wiki now 21:09< inode0> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD/FADNA2008 21:09 * herlo was too slow 21:10< inode0> some are still missing but will be added 21:10< herlo> one of the things I'd like to see on the agenda is a suggested schedule for Sunday 21:10< inode0> including a serious discussion of the budget 21:10-!- jtaber [n=front@68-27-236-157.area1.spcsdns.net] has joined #fedora-meeting 21:10< inode0> yes, you prepared a rough draft and we'll get one added 21:10< herlo> since some of us will be flying out that day, I'd like to make sure they can plan to be there for the most they can... 21:11< herlo> inode0: sorry, forgot protocol 21:12< inode0> one question I guess that is still up in the air is do we want all meetings on Sunday AM or do we want to try to schedule some before that? 21:12-!- karlie [n=karlie@24.213.132.169] has quit [Connection timed out] 21:12-!- karlie [n=karlie@24.213.132.169] has joined #fedora-meeting 21:12< inode0> we could probably find an hour or two on Friday and Saturday 21:13 * herlo can guarantee that he will not be there before 8pm on Friday but would be willing to stay up a little later if necessary 21:14-!- spoleeba [n=one@fedora/Jef] has joined #fedora-meeting 21:14 * inode0 would like to enjoy as much of OLF on Saturday as possible too 21:14< inode0> is 4 hours a comfortable amount for meetings on Sunday? 21:15 * herlo thinks that's all we're gonna get 21:15< inode0> fun is up in the air too 21:15< herlo> its not like the meeting couldn't go longer after lunch in a more formal state 21:15< herlo> s/more/less/ 21:15< inode0> should we try for Saturday dinner? 21:16< herlo> http://www.ohiolinux.org/schedule.html 21:16< herlo> not sure how this might help 21:16< ke4qqq> what about saturday really late night 21:16< ke4qqq> it's not like we plan on sleeping much right? 21:16< herlo> ke4qqq: are you suggesting that instead of meeting sunday morning, we stay up late on Saturday and meet? 21:16< herlo> or just have fun? 21:16< ke4qqq> no fun/socialize/get to know everyone ftf 21:17< ke4qqq> rather that should be 21:17< herlo> ftf? 21:17< ke4qqq> no, fun/socialize/get to know everyone ftf 21:17< ke4qqq> face to face 21:17< herlo> ahh 21:17-!- coestar1 [n=justin@wsip-98-174-230-194.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #fedora-meeting 21:17< inode0> dinner, have some bacon after bacon talks? party? 21:17< herlo> jono's talk, if the same, is pretty cool 21:18< ke4qqq> lol 21:18-!- coestar [n=justin@wsip-98-174-230-194.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:18< herlo> I've also seen zonker's talk, very good too actually :) 21:18 * herlo goes back to being on-topic 21:18< inode0> well, is this the FAD planning meeting or should we schedule one to focus on it exclusively? 21:19< ke4qqq> thought we had one - we prolly need more and we need more involvement. 21:19< herlo> could be... 21:19< inode0> perhaps a Friday evening get together is possible too, I will be free that evening 21:21< DemonJester> It really comes down to how many are really attending in my opinion. 21:21< inode0> I'll be in town on Thursday actually if anyone else is ... 21:22< DemonJester> I am rolling in sometime Friday. 21:23< inode0> I would suggest we try to clean this up so we can better advertise it with some details 21:23< DemonJester> How many are we hoping will attend the FAD event. Being realistic. 15-20? 21:24< inode0> that would be a nice number to get I think 21:24< herlo> 8-10 is more likely 21:24< inode0> maybe high 21:24< herlo> I mean there's me, ke4qqq, inode0, vwbusguy, DemonJester and that's all I know for now 21:24< herlo> oh, and iWolf 21:25-!- brianhenson [n=bhenson@75-167-155-169.bois.qwest.net] has quit [] 21:25< inode0> pascal 21:25< herlo> ah, so that's like 6 already 21:25< DemonJester> speaking of pascal does anyone know if he got the polo's ordered? I still havent seen an invoice yet. 21:25< inode0> one other I don't know chicagonpg? 21:25< DemonJester> sorry off topic.. 21:26< inode0> will be on-topic shortly 21:26 * inode0 moves we table this and complete tonight's agenda - discussion can return to FAD at the end time permitting 21:27< DemonJester> +1 21:27 * ke4qqq cedes the meeting to inode0 and lets him run it. 21:27< inode0> what did I miss? :) 21:27< inode0> we are on tasks now? 21:28< DemonJester> in which channel? ;) 21:28< inode0> that too :) 21:28< ke4qqq> works for me 21:28< inode0> so I don't see pascal around now, we'll have to check with him later 21:28< inode0> Ambassador Kit news? 21:29< herlo> uh, okay 21:29< inode0> Ambassador Kit Hackfest news? 21:29< herlo> so I'm still working the details, but mizmo said she'll be there and seemed interested in the idea 21:29< ke4qqq> ? 21:30< inode0> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon/FUDConF11#Hackfest_sessions 21:30< inode0> can you tell us what the idea is herlo? 21:30< herlo> the general idea is to hack together an entire ambassadorkit by the end of FUDCon 21:31-!- LinuxKnight [n=LinuxKni@fedora/LinuxKnight] has joined #fedora-meeting 21:31< herlo> in other words, we bring the things we need, stickers, CDs, buttons, tshirts, etc 21:32< inode0> crucial part is getting some art on the display box and that can be accomplished there 21:32< ke4qqq> will we have CDs by then? 21:32< herlo> ke4qqq: no, but its a beta 21:32< herlo> inode0: agreed 21:32< herlo> I want to put it together with F9 21:33< herlo> and have it a proof of concept, sound good? 21:33< ke4qqq> yep 21:33< inode0> will be great to just have a kit - we'll be able to see what is good about it and find out what might be better 21:34< inode0> whatever it ends up being ambassadors are going to greatly appreciate it 21:34< inode0> shall we move to event box + transfer policy? 21:34< herlo> sure 21:34< herlo> its not changed 21:34< herlo> I've not done anything yet as I am in the process of building the eventbox first 21:34< herlo> almost there too 21:35< herlo> have a ups pick up tomorrow morning for a pelican 1610 21:35< inode0> that is news :) 21:35< herlo> then I can put all the pieces in there and start getting the rest put in there.. 21:35< inode0> ok, XOs are apparently on their way to someone 21:36< inode0> for inclusion in event boxes 21:36< herlo> right, so probably can assemble at OLF 21:36< inode0> no updates on other hardware 21:37< inode0> we might discuss other small hardware needs as I'm pretty sure some of us would volunteer to bring it 21:37< inode0> maybe a volunteer column on the wiki to say I'll bring an contribute X, Y, and Z for the boxes? 21:38< herlo> ooh, that'd be cool 21:38 * quaid got called away to the phone for Fedora desktop support, is back 21:38< DemonJester> I would put suggested or needed items so others know what we are looking for 21:38< inode0> we have a page with that keeps getting refined now 21:39< herlo> inode0: you mean the https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/EventBox 21:39< herlo> page? 21:39< inode0> yes 21:40< herlo> except it doesn't list what we have atm 21:40< herlo> should we add a column 21:40< inode0> let's be clear if we are making 3 or 4 boxes so we know how many to get 21:40< herlo> I think we should build one and then work for the next 21:40-!- lajjr [n=lajjr@71.181.217.163] has left #fedora-meeting [] 21:40< inode0> maybe with each item have a quantity needed column? 21:40< herlo> one will give us an idea of what we need and what we don't 21:41< herlo> inode0: with the exception of the clerical stuff at the bottom, the number is 1 21:41< inode0> per box, is that 3 or 4? 21:41< herlo> per box 21:42-!- ianweller_afk is now known as ianweller 21:42-!- lajjr [n=lajjr@71.181.217.163] has joined #fedora-meeting 21:42< inode0> right, I'm asking if we are trying to provision 3 boxes or 4 boxes now? 21:42< herlo> 1 21:42< herlo> so the problem with trying to provision 3 or 4 boxes up front is that we need to figure out the budget for them 21:42< ke4qqq> we want to do 4 eventually 21:42< inode0> hrm, if I go buy power strips I'd just as soon buy one for each box 21:42< herlo> until we have one, how will we know what to put in them? 21:43< inode0> we don't really need the budget if volunteers are giving us the stuff, or until we see what they give us 21:43< herlo> I guess 21:43< inode0> we got 4 XOx so I guess 4 21:44< herlo> what are you going ot put them in? the Pelican 1610 is not free 21:44< inode0> we need budget for that :) 21:44< herlo> and laptoplets 21:44< herlo> and and posters 21:44< herlo> and routers (likely) 21:45< inode0> notebooks will probably not be purchased I wouldn't think, we'll use our own if we can't get them donated 21:45< herlo> I mean, the thought is that for now, we can ship one around and start adding to it, but I'm happy to have more 21:45< herlo> inode0: sure, for now... 21:45< inode0> right, ok 21:46< DemonJester> I may be able to work something out with the routers, let me look into that for next meeting. 21:46< inode0> so let's just go with a volunteer column and I'll start filling it in 21:46< inode0> we have one router now I think that ke4qqq got somewhere?! 21:46< ke4qqq> yes 21:46 * herlo sees a task for DemonJester 21:46< DemonJester> I may be able to get the rest at little to no cost. 21:47< herlo> k 21:47< inode0> I think we can move this forward this week 21:47-!- lajjr [n=lajjr@71.181.217.163] has left #fedora-meeting [] 21:47< herlo> inode0: add DemonJester to a task :) 21:47< herlo> routers for eventbox 21:47< herlo> btw, I should mention that the tasks page has moved 21:47< inode0> let's talk media 21:47 * DemonJester accepts task :) 21:47< herlo> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/NA/Tasks#Assigned_Tasks 21:48< inode0> iWolf here? 21:49< inode0> blog update then? 21:49 * herlo blogged :) 21:50< inode0> planet coming along? finished? 21:50< herlo> also, I built a "I'm going to FAD - NA" button to put on your next blog post! 21:50< inode0> yes, nice 21:50< herlo> inode0: lcafiero is up, saw his blog post today 21:50< inode0> ok, last task to cover is tracking 21:51< herlo> tracking? 21:51< herlo> oh 21:51< herlo> event tracking 21:51< inode0> I see we have a starter page for event tracking 21:51< herlo> yes, we do 21:52< herlo> we should do this at the end of every FAMNA meeting 21:52< herlo> because I don't think we'll be able to do it anywhere else 21:52< inode0> do what? what are we doing? 21:52< herlo> any time, rather 21:52< herlo> inode0: okay, so this is a long explanation, so bear with me 21:53< herlo> the idea is that we're getting much more events than that are being put on the event page 21:53< herlo> so we're going to track any/all events we know aobut where fedora was presented. 21:53< herlo> while we're going to encourage others to participate and blog or mail, not everyone does that 21:54< herlo> so the idea here is to track all events in our region by putting them on the EventTracking page 21:54-!- nman64 [n=n-man@fedora/nman64] has joined #fedora-meeting 21:55< DemonJester> ? 21:55< ke4qqq> hmmmmmm I think this is something that the regionals should track 21:55< herlo> ke4qqq: right 21:55< herlo> just the regional ambassadors 21:55< ke4qqq> as someone who just did 2 small events, and has 2 more this week - the last thing I want to do is have yet another places (aside from blog and email) where I have to fill something out 21:55< inode0> why? if anyone sees something why not add it? 21:56< herlo> inode0: could you clarify your question? 21:56< inode0> well, I understood we would check in with ambassadors in our areas from time to time and report back about things they were doing 21:57-!- karlie [n=karlie@24.213.132.169] has quit ["Leaving"] 21:57< herlo> oh, well that's part of it for sure 21:57< inode0> but if DemonJester sees Fedora at some event we haven't tracked why not go ahead and add it? why just regionals? 21:57< herlo> but we should be tracking events in our region for sure 21:57< herlo> oh, its fine if other add it, i see your point now 21:58< inode0> sort of part of the mission of regionals to keep an eye on this though 21:58< DemonJester> but a little help never hurts either ;) 21:58< herlo> I was just saying its part of our duties, but if others do it, that's great 21:59< inode0> I'm not clear on whether this is for extra events or all events 22:00< inode0> back to ke4qqq's point I think 22:01< herlo> all 22:01< herlo> its still kind of an idea 22:01< herlo> not really implemented 22:01< herlo> but it will hopefully get more notice for FAMNA and that's what we want 22:01< inode0> right, it is a good idea to have this collected in one place 22:01 * herlo has to run so, anything else? 22:02< inode0> a little bad if ambassadors need to report is three places or more 22:02< inode0> let's all give this some thought for next week? 22:02< inode0> thanks herlo 22:02< herlo> sure, ciao 22:02 * herlo heads out 22:02< DemonJester> see ya herlo 22:02< inode0> any other tasks? 22:03< inode0> if not, open floor 22:03< DemonJester> ! 22:03 * ke4qqq just read quaids post 22:03< inode0> feel free to go DemonJester 22:03< ke4qqq> oops go ahead DemonJester 22:03< quaid> ke4qqq: yeah, I was going to bring that up ... 22:04< inode0> link? 22:04< inode0> DemonJester: ? 22:04< DemonJester> real quick, I am working on getting some pricing for sticker sheets, a very small run. Hopefully if all goes well I can bring some to OLF to show others 22:04< ke4qqq> DemonJester: may want to talk to Mizmo she is doing some as well 22:04< ke4qqq> and has some pricing 22:04< inode0> that is great, are these art team designed? 22:04< ke4qqq> may be advantageous to combine an order. 22:05< DemonJester> yeah the ones that have about 15 stickers per sheet. 22:05< inode0> that order seems pretty stuck 22:05< inode0> it is important to have the art team's seal of approval I think 22:05< inode0> so we don't accidentally violate guidelines we don't know about or something 22:06< DemonJester> I can do that this week. Do I talk to mizmo about that? 22:06< inode0> and they are just very helpful and all around nice people to work with 22:06< ke4qqq> yep 22:06< DemonJester> I will do that. I am finished 22:06 * inode0 looks in the mirror to see if he got any paint on his lips 22:07< inode0> okay, discussion about quaid's post? 22:07< quaid> summary: can we extend the parts of FAD to non-attendees that are worth being interactive? 22:07< inode0> a link would be appreciated by me 22:07 * quaid getting 22:08< ke4qqq> http://iquaid.org/2008/09/16/formula-for-making-distance-work/ 22:08< quaid> thx 22:08< quaid> there are some specific suggestions in there, etc. 22:08< quaid> I've seen all of my suggestions work well in real life, fwiw. 22:09< inode0> absolutely I'm in favor of doing what we can to include interested contributors who can't attend 22:10< inode0> what are the bullets for what needs to be done in preparation for this? 22:11< inode0> video/audio feed for example? 22:12< quaid> yeah, projector X2 or X3 22:13< inode0> do we have someone who will be on the ground in columbus who knows this stuff? 22:13< inode0> who can coordinate things? 22:14< quaid> ANSWER HAZY,TRY AGAIN LATER 22:14< quaid> maybe first we list the scenarios 22:14< quaid> and what support they require 22:15 * quaid starts something like that on tha page 22:15< DemonJester> icecast? 22:15-!- warren [n=warren@redhat/wombat/warren] has quit ["Leaving"] 22:16-!- warren [n=warren@redhat/wombat/warren] has joined #fedora-meeting 22:16< DemonJester> of course the question would be what kind of bandwidth would we have there and how much we will use while streaming. 22:17< inode0> well, I'm guessing the meeting will be in the hotel restaurant or something 22:17< inode0> not likely to have much bandwidth 22:17< quaid> in a meeting room? 22:18< DemonJester> yet to be determined.. 22:18< inode0> I don't know what they will have for us now, but the meetings are the day after OLF 22:19< inode0> I'm going to suggest we all give this some thought too and see if we can plan things with this in mind to try to make it work 22:19< quaid> +1 22:19< quaid> I don't think all events are worthy 22:19< quaid> e.g. Sat. nite f2f hanging out 22:19< quaid> but "what are the plans for the next year" is worthy 22:19< DemonJester> +1 22:19< inode0> would be nice if our 4 hour block for real meetings could be available though 22:20< DemonJester> honestly we need more like 5 I think 22:20< inode0> ok 22:20< inode0> ok, we can start at 7am 22:20< inode0> what TZ is columbus? 22:20< DemonJester> that works for me.. EST 22:21< inode0> I'll be asleep, but go ahead 22:21-!- spoleeba [n=one@fedora/Jef] has quit ["Leaving"] 22:21< quaid> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD/FADNA2008#Remoting_the_meetings 22:21< inode0> one other thing I'd like to mention, did everyone see stickster_afk's blog mentioning FUDcon plans? 22:23< inode0> when he isn't cramming for certifications maybe we can arrange another visit to hear more about that - I think we are all eager to do what we can to help with FUDcon planning 22:23< crossbytes> link? 22:28< inode0> http://marilyn.frields.org:8080/~paul/wordpress/?p=1163 22:28-!- ldimaggi_ [n=ldimaggi@c-76-19-171-76.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 22:29< inode0> any more discussion items before we close up shop for tonight? 22:30< inode0> going 22:30< DemonJester> besides another FAD planning meeting sometime nope 22:30< inode0> let's arrange that in fedora-ambassadors 22:30< inode0> going 22:30< inode0> who has the archive of the whole meeting and would volunteer to post it? 22:31-!- jtaber [n=front@68-27-236-157.area1.spcsdns.net] has quit ["leaving"] 22:31< DemonJester> I think I have it logged. 22:31< inode0> thanks 22:31< inode0> gone 22:31< inode0> EOF
-- Regards,
BrianPowell http://fedoraproject.org
21:50< herlo> inode0: lcafiero is up, saw his blog post today
Thank you, herlo, for taking care of that, and sorry that I was unable to get to the meeting -- we had a test and I couldn't "fake" that.
Larry Cafiero
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 7:23 PM, Larry Cafiero larry.cafiero@gmail.com wrote:
21:50< herlo> inode0: lcafiero is up, saw his blog post today
Thank you, herlo, for taking care of that, and sorry that I was unable to get to the meeting -- we had a test and I couldn't "fake" that.
Larry,
No worries Mr. Cafiero :-D I'm quite happy to help.
BTW, we will want to get you set up with your fedorapeople.org account in the future where your blog data really goes. No rush though as its working from my .planet site atm.
Cheers,
Clint
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