Hi,
2013/5/6 John T. Rose <rose(a)iastate.edu>
On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 5:59 AM, Jiri Eischmann
<eischmann(a)redhat.com>
wrote:
> Ruth Suehle píše v Pá 03. 05. 2013 v 14:06 -0400:
>> | > I would rather see the ambassadors do something to thank people for
>> | > contributing that everyone who contributes to Fedora is eligible
for.
>> | > Why should ambassadors get t-shirts when packagers and doc writers
and
>> | > on and on don't?
>> | >
>> | > We have some access to funding. Let's spend some of that to thank
>> | > people for helping Fedora but not limit it to ambassadors.
>>
>>
>> I initially was going to say that I like the idea of rewarding people
for doing a little more (like those who throw
>> release parties), but this is a good point. There are lot of people
helping Fedora just as much in other ways.
>
> This idea was meant to replace the old reward program for release party
> organizers which is why it was originally limited to them (btw release
> party can be organized by any contributor, it's not limited to
> ambassadors). I have absolutely no problem to include other teams, too.
> But there are several problems to solve.
For the record I am against buying dinners and giving trips to FUDCons
and whatever else to release party organizers as well. Regardless of
who can in theory organize a release party these goodies are being
given by ambassadors to other ambassadors for honestly not doing very
much.
nowhere is written that you have to be Ambassador for doing a release party.
You definitly volunteered with this mail to organize one as you said is not
much work. But that cant be true when I look here there was no party in NA
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F18_release_events#NA
Compare this effort to that expended by QA or Design release after
release and there are never any goodies for them. We could be better
ambassadors internally by giving a thank you to those working hard
elsewhere in the project. I'd be fully behind an effort to send a
thank you to the QA team.
> Criteria: who's going to get a T-shirt? With the release party reward
> program, it's very simple: everyone who is an event owner of a release
> party.
How about everyone who contributes a design for wallpaper? How about
everyone who participates in a test day? It isn't that hard to find
easy ways to identify people outside of the ambassador group.
> So every team/spin/... which wants to be involved needs to define some
> criteria, or we can simply give T-shirts away to anyone who applies and
> has at least some sign of contribution until we run out of T-shirts.
We have raffled off t-shirts to contributors in the past. The
logistics of any large scale thank you program is going to be
difficult. But I don't see any real impediment to thanking one group
this time and another next time either.
> Distribution&Cost: with the release parties, the distribution of
> T-shirts is fairly easy and cheap, at least in some of the regions. In
> EMEA, we send packages with media and swag to every release party, so
> distributing T-shirts is just a matter of including them in the
> packages. Sending T-shirts to various contributors would be logistically
> more complicated and expensive because we'd have to send them in extra
> packages. So are we going to have enough money not only for T-shirt
> production, but also for shipping which won't land in this quarter for
> sure? Who is going to package and send tens or hundreds of T-shirts?
Well, ambassadors in NA did exactly that for the t-shirt raffle. As I
said before though I do agree this doesn't scale. But at the same
scale we have here we could I am sure give t-shirts to the QA or
Design contributors instead of to ambassadors for a change.
br gnokii
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