21:01-!- herlo changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Fedora Ambassadors North America Meeting -- Starting now 21:02< herlo> roll call 21:02 * herlo is Clint Savage 21:02 * ke4qqq is here 21:02 * quaid is Karsten Wade 21:02 * DemonJester Brian Powell 21:03< lajjr> lajjr is here 21:04< ke4qqq> ok......iwolf doesn't appear to be here - so guess there is no famsco report 21:04< herlo> erg... 21:04-!- crossbytes [n=crossbyt@fedora/crossbytes] has joined #fedora-meeting 21:04 * herlo misses iWolf 21:04< ke4qqq> erg?? 21:04< herlo> that is all 21:05< ke4qqq> so FAD - which inode0 and herlo will tell us about 21:05-!- herlo changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Fedora Ambassadors North America (FAmNA) Meeting -- Agenda: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2008-09-16 21:06-!- inode0 [n=inode0@fedora/inode0] has joined #fedora-meeting 21:06< herlo> ke4qqq: haha, well I missed most of it DemonJester and inode0 were really the ones in charge of that 21:07< ke4qqq> inode0: DemonJester: what can you tell us about FADNA 21:07< DemonJester> inode0: you first? 21:07< inode0> another chance to embarrass myself 21:08< inode0> am I in the right channel now? 21:08< herlo> yes 21:08< DemonJester> yep 21:08< inode0> ok 21:08< inode0> We are trying to get a basic agenda organized although we'll be flexible 21:09< inode0> some important topics are listed on the wiki now 21:09< inode0> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD/FADNA2008 21:09 * herlo was too slow 21:10< inode0> some are still missing but will be added 21:10< herlo> one of the things I'd like to see on the agenda is a suggested schedule for Sunday 21:10< inode0> including a serious discussion of the budget 21:10-!- jtaber [n=front@68-27-236-157.area1.spcsdns.net] has joined #fedora-meeting 21:10< inode0> yes, you prepared a rough draft and we'll get one added 21:10< herlo> since some of us will be flying out that day, I'd like to make sure they can plan to be there for the most they can... 21:11< herlo> inode0: sorry, forgot protocol 21:12< inode0> one question I guess that is still up in the air is do we want all meetings on Sunday AM or do we want to try to schedule some before that? 21:12-!- karlie [n=karlie@24.213.132.169] has quit [Connection timed out] 21:12-!- karlie [n=karlie@24.213.132.169] has joined #fedora-meeting 21:12< inode0> we could probably find an hour or two on Friday and Saturday 21:13 * herlo can guarantee that he will not be there before 8pm on Friday but would be willing to stay up a little later if necessary 21:14-!- spoleeba [n=one@fedora/Jef] has joined #fedora-meeting 21:14 * inode0 would like to enjoy as much of OLF on Saturday as possible too 21:14< inode0> is 4 hours a comfortable amount for meetings on Sunday? 21:15 * herlo thinks that's all we're gonna get 21:15< inode0> fun is up in the air too 21:15< herlo> its not like the meeting couldn't go longer after lunch in a more formal state 21:15< herlo> s/more/less/ 21:15< inode0> should we try for Saturday dinner? 21:16< herlo> http://www.ohiolinux.org/schedule.html 21:16< herlo> not sure how this might help 21:16< ke4qqq> what about saturday really late night 21:16< ke4qqq> it's not like we plan on sleeping much right? 21:16< herlo> ke4qqq: are you suggesting that instead of meeting sunday morning, we stay up late on Saturday and meet? 21:16< herlo> or just have fun? 21:16< ke4qqq> no fun/socialize/get to know everyone ftf 21:17< ke4qqq> rather that should be 21:17< herlo> ftf? 21:17< ke4qqq> no, fun/socialize/get to know everyone ftf 21:17< ke4qqq> face to face 21:17< herlo> ahh 21:17-!- coestar1 [n=justin@wsip-98-174-230-194.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #fedora-meeting 21:17< inode0> dinner, have some bacon after bacon talks? party? 21:17< herlo> jono's talk, if the same, is pretty cool 21:18< ke4qqq> lol 21:18-!- coestar [n=justin@wsip-98-174-230-194.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:18< herlo> I've also seen zonker's talk, very good too actually :) 21:18 * herlo goes back to being on-topic 21:18< inode0> well, is this the FAD planning meeting or should we schedule one to focus on it exclusively? 21:19< ke4qqq> thought we had one - we prolly need more and we need more involvement. 21:19< herlo> could be... 21:19< inode0> perhaps a Friday evening get together is possible too, I will be free that evening 21:21< DemonJester> It really comes down to how many are really attending in my opinion. 21:21< inode0> I'll be in town on Thursday actually if anyone else is ... 21:22< DemonJester> I am rolling in sometime Friday. 21:23< inode0> I would suggest we try to clean this up so we can better advertise it with some details 21:23< DemonJester> How many are we hoping will attend the FAD event. Being realistic. 15-20? 21:24< inode0> that would be a nice number to get I think 21:24< herlo> 8-10 is more likely 21:24< inode0> maybe high 21:24< herlo> I mean there's me, ke4qqq, inode0, vwbusguy, DemonJester and that's all I know for now 21:24< herlo> oh, and iWolf 21:25-!- brianhenson [n=bhenson@75-167-155-169.bois.qwest.net] has quit [] 21:25< inode0> pascal 21:25< herlo> ah, so that's like 6 already 21:25< DemonJester> speaking of pascal does anyone know if he got the polo's ordered? I still havent seen an invoice yet. 21:25< inode0> one other I don't know chicagonpg? 21:25< DemonJester> sorry off topic.. 21:26< inode0> will be on-topic shortly 21:26 * inode0 moves we table this and complete tonight's agenda - discussion can return to FAD at the end time permitting 21:27< DemonJester> +1 21:27 * ke4qqq cedes the meeting to inode0 and lets him run it. 21:27< inode0> what did I miss? :) 21:27< inode0> we are on tasks now? 21:28< DemonJester> in which channel? ;) 21:28< inode0> that too :) 21:28< ke4qqq> works for me 21:28< inode0> so I don't see pascal around now, we'll have to check with him later 21:28< inode0> Ambassador Kit news? 21:29< herlo> uh, okay 21:29< inode0> Ambassador Kit Hackfest news? 21:29< herlo> so I'm still working the details, but mizmo said she'll be there and seemed interested in the idea 21:29< ke4qqq> ? 21:30< inode0> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon/FUDConF11#Hackfest_sessions 21:30< inode0> can you tell us what the idea is herlo? 21:30< herlo> the general idea is to hack together an entire ambassadorkit by the end of FUDCon 21:31-!- LinuxKnight [n=LinuxKni@fedora/LinuxKnight] has joined #fedora-meeting 21:31< herlo> in other words, we bring the things we need, stickers, CDs, buttons, tshirts, etc 21:32< inode0> crucial part is getting some art on the display box and that can be accomplished there 21:32< ke4qqq> will we have CDs by then? 21:32< herlo> ke4qqq: no, but its a beta 21:32< herlo> inode0: agreed 21:32< herlo> I want to put it together with F9 21:33< herlo> and have it a proof of concept, sound good? 21:33< ke4qqq> yep 21:33< inode0> will be great to just have a kit - we'll be able to see what is good about it and find out what might be better 21:34< inode0> whatever it ends up being ambassadors are going to greatly appreciate it 21:34< inode0> shall we move to event box + transfer policy? 21:34< herlo> sure 21:34< herlo> its not changed 21:34< herlo> I've not done anything yet as I am in the process of building the eventbox first 21:34< herlo> almost there too 21:35< herlo> have a ups pick up tomorrow morning for a pelican 1610 21:35< inode0> that is news :) 21:35< herlo> then I can put all the pieces in there and start getting the rest put in there.. 21:35< inode0> ok, XOs are apparently on their way to someone 21:36< inode0> for inclusion in event boxes 21:36< herlo> right, so probably can assemble at OLF 21:36< inode0> no updates on other hardware 21:37< inode0> we might discuss other small hardware needs as I'm pretty sure some of us would volunteer to bring it 21:37< inode0> maybe a volunteer column on the wiki to say I'll bring an contribute X, Y, and Z for the boxes? 21:38< herlo> ooh, that'd be cool 21:38 * quaid got called away to the phone for Fedora desktop support, is back 21:38< DemonJester> I would put suggested or needed items so others know what we are looking for 21:38< inode0> we have a page with that keeps getting refined now 21:39< herlo> inode0: you mean the https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/EventBox 21:39< herlo> page? 21:39< inode0> yes 21:40< herlo> except it doesn't list what we have atm 21:40< herlo> should we add a column 21:40< inode0> let's be clear if we are making 3 or 4 boxes so we know how many to get 21:40< herlo> I think we should build one and then work for the next 21:40-!- lajjr [n=lajjr@71.181.217.163] has left #fedora-meeting [] 21:40< inode0> maybe with each item have a quantity needed column? 21:40< herlo> one will give us an idea of what we need and what we don't 21:41< herlo> inode0: with the exception of the clerical stuff at the bottom, the number is 1 21:41< inode0> per box, is that 3 or 4? 21:41< herlo> per box 21:42-!- ianweller_afk is now known as ianweller 21:42-!- lajjr [n=lajjr@71.181.217.163] has joined #fedora-meeting 21:42< inode0> right, I'm asking if we are trying to provision 3 boxes or 4 boxes now? 21:42< herlo> 1 21:42< herlo> so the problem with trying to provision 3 or 4 boxes up front is that we need to figure out the budget for them 21:42< ke4qqq> we want to do 4 eventually 21:42< inode0> hrm, if I go buy power strips I'd just as soon buy one for each box 21:42< herlo> until we have one, how will we know what to put in them? 21:43< inode0> we don't really need the budget if volunteers are giving us the stuff, or until we see what they give us 21:43< herlo> I guess 21:43< inode0> we got 4 XOx so I guess 4 21:44< herlo> what are you going ot put them in? the Pelican 1610 is not free 21:44< inode0> we need budget for that :) 21:44< herlo> and laptoplets 21:44< herlo> and and posters 21:44< herlo> and routers (likely) 21:45< inode0> notebooks will probably not be purchased I wouldn't think, we'll use our own if we can't get them donated 21:45< herlo> I mean, the thought is that for now, we can ship one around and start adding to it, but I'm happy to have more 21:45< herlo> inode0: sure, for now... 21:45< inode0> right, ok 21:46< DemonJester> I may be able to work something out with the routers, let me look into that for next meeting. 21:46< inode0> so let's just go with a volunteer column and I'll start filling it in 21:46< inode0> we have one router now I think that ke4qqq got somewhere?! 21:46< ke4qqq> yes 21:46 * herlo sees a task for DemonJester 21:46< DemonJester> I may be able to get the rest at little to no cost. 21:47< herlo> k 21:47< inode0> I think we can move this forward this week 21:47-!- lajjr [n=lajjr@71.181.217.163] has left #fedora-meeting [] 21:47< herlo> inode0: add DemonJester to a task :) 21:47< herlo> routers for eventbox 21:47< herlo> btw, I should mention that the tasks page has moved 21:47< inode0> let's talk media 21:47 * DemonJester accepts task :) 21:47< herlo> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/NA/Tasks#Assigned_Tasks 21:48< inode0> iWolf here? 21:49< inode0> blog update then? 21:49 * herlo blogged :) 21:50< inode0> planet coming along? finished? 21:50< herlo> also, I built a "I'm going to FAD - NA" button to put on your next blog post! 21:50< inode0> yes, nice 21:50< herlo> inode0: lcafiero is up, saw his blog post today 21:50< inode0> ok, last task to cover is tracking 21:51< herlo> tracking? 21:51< herlo> oh 21:51< herlo> event tracking 21:51< inode0> I see we have a starter page for event tracking 21:51< herlo> yes, we do 21:52< herlo> we should do this at the end of every FAMNA meeting 21:52< herlo> because I don't think we'll be able to do it anywhere else 21:52< inode0> do what? what are we doing? 21:52< herlo> any time, rather 21:52< herlo> inode0: okay, so this is a long explanation, so bear with me 21:53< herlo> the idea is that we're getting much more events than that are being put on the event page 21:53< herlo> so we're going to track any/all events we know aobut where fedora was presented. 21:53< herlo> while we're going to encourage others to participate and blog or mail, not everyone does that 21:54< herlo> so the idea here is to track all events in our region by putting them on the EventTracking page 21:54-!- nman64 [n=n-man@fedora/nman64] has joined #fedora-meeting 21:55< DemonJester> ? 21:55< ke4qqq> hmmmmmm I think this is something that the regionals should track 21:55< herlo> ke4qqq: right 21:55< herlo> just the regional ambassadors 21:55< ke4qqq> as someone who just did 2 small events, and has 2 more this week - the last thing I want to do is have yet another places (aside from blog and email) where I have to fill something out 21:55< inode0> why? if anyone sees something why not add it? 21:56< herlo> inode0: could you clarify your question? 21:56< inode0> well, I understood we would check in with ambassadors in our areas from time to time and report back about things they were doing 21:57-!- karlie [n=karlie@24.213.132.169] has quit ["Leaving"] 21:57< herlo> oh, well that's part of it for sure 21:57< inode0> but if DemonJester sees Fedora at some event we haven't tracked why not go ahead and add it? why just regionals? 21:57< herlo> but we should be tracking events in our region for sure 21:57< herlo> oh, its fine if other add it, i see your point now 21:58< inode0> sort of part of the mission of regionals to keep an eye on this though 21:58< DemonJester> but a little help never hurts either ;) 21:58< herlo> I was just saying its part of our duties, but if others do it, that's great 21:59< inode0> I'm not clear on whether this is for extra events or all events 22:00< inode0> back to ke4qqq's point I think 22:01< herlo> all 22:01< herlo> its still kind of an idea 22:01< herlo> not really implemented 22:01< herlo> but it will hopefully get more notice for FAMNA and that's what we want 22:01< inode0> right, it is a good idea to have this collected in one place 22:01 * herlo has to run so, anything else? 22:02< inode0> a little bad if ambassadors need to report is three places or more 22:02< inode0> let's all give this some thought for next week? 22:02< inode0> thanks herlo 22:02< herlo> sure, ciao 22:02 * herlo heads out 22:02< DemonJester> see ya herlo 22:02< inode0> any other tasks? 22:03< inode0> if not, open floor 22:03< DemonJester> ! 22:03 * ke4qqq just read quaids post 22:03< inode0> feel free to go DemonJester 22:03< ke4qqq> oops go ahead DemonJester 22:03< quaid> ke4qqq: yeah, I was going to bring that up ... 22:04< inode0> link? 22:04< inode0> DemonJester: ? 22:04< DemonJester> real quick, I am working on getting some pricing for sticker sheets, a very small run. Hopefully if all goes well I can bring some to OLF to show others 22:04< ke4qqq> DemonJester: may want to talk to Mizmo she is doing some as well 22:04< ke4qqq> and has some pricing 22:04< inode0> that is great, are these art team designed? 22:04< ke4qqq> may be advantageous to combine an order. 22:05< DemonJester> yeah the ones that have about 15 stickers per sheet. 22:05< inode0> that order seems pretty stuck 22:05< inode0> it is important to have the art team's seal of approval I think 22:05< inode0> so we don't accidentally violate guidelines we don't know about or something 22:06< DemonJester> I can do that this week. Do I talk to mizmo about that? 22:06< inode0> and they are just very helpful and all around nice people to work with 22:06< ke4qqq> yep 22:06< DemonJester> I will do that. I am finished 22:06 * inode0 looks in the mirror to see if he got any paint on his lips 22:07< inode0> okay, discussion about quaid's post? 22:07< quaid> summary: can we extend the parts of FAD to non-attendees that are worth being interactive? 22:07< inode0> a link would be appreciated by me 22:07 * quaid getting 22:08< ke4qqq> http://iquaid.org/2008/09/16/formula-for-making-distance-work/ 22:08< quaid> thx 22:08< quaid> there are some specific suggestions in there, etc. 22:08< quaid> I've seen all of my suggestions work well in real life, fwiw. 22:09< inode0> absolutely I'm in favor of doing what we can to include interested contributors who can't attend 22:10< inode0> what are the bullets for what needs to be done in preparation for this? 22:11< inode0> video/audio feed for example? 22:12< quaid> yeah, projector X2 or X3 22:13< inode0> do we have someone who will be on the ground in columbus who knows this stuff? 22:13< inode0> who can coordinate things? 22:14< quaid> ANSWER HAZY,TRY AGAIN LATER 22:14< quaid> maybe first we list the scenarios 22:14< quaid> and what support they require 22:15 * quaid starts something like that on tha page 22:15< DemonJester> icecast? 22:15-!- warren [n=warren@redhat/wombat/warren] has quit ["Leaving"] 22:16-!- warren [n=warren@redhat/wombat/warren] has joined #fedora-meeting 22:16< DemonJester> of course the question would be what kind of bandwidth would we have there and how much we will use while streaming. 22:17< inode0> well, I'm guessing the meeting will be in the hotel restaurant or something 22:17< inode0> not likely to have much bandwidth 22:17< quaid> in a meeting room? 22:18< DemonJester> yet to be determined.. 22:18< inode0> I don't know what they will have for us now, but the meetings are the day after OLF 22:19< inode0> I'm going to suggest we all give this some thought too and see if we can plan things with this in mind to try to make it work 22:19< quaid> +1 22:19< quaid> I don't think all events are worthy 22:19< quaid> e.g. Sat. nite f2f hanging out 22:19< quaid> but "what are the plans for the next year" is worthy 22:19< DemonJester> +1 22:19< inode0> would be nice if our 4 hour block for real meetings could be available though 22:20< DemonJester> honestly we need more like 5 I think 22:20< inode0> ok 22:20< inode0> ok, we can start at 7am 22:20< inode0> what TZ is columbus? 22:20< DemonJester> that works for me.. EST 22:21< inode0> I'll be asleep, but go ahead 22:21-!- spoleeba [n=one@fedora/Jef] has quit ["Leaving"] 22:21< quaid> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD/FADNA2008#Remoting_the_meetings 22:21< inode0> one other thing I'd like to mention, did everyone see stickster_afk's blog mentioning FUDcon plans? 22:23< inode0> when he isn't cramming for certifications maybe we can arrange another visit to hear more about that - I think we are all eager to do what we can to help with FUDcon planning 22:23< crossbytes> link? 22:28< inode0> http://marilyn.frields.org:8080/~paul/wordpress/?p=1163 22:28-!- ldimaggi_ [n=ldimaggi@c-76-19-171-76.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit ["Leaving"] 22:29< inode0> any more discussion items before we close up shop for tonight? 22:30< inode0> going 22:30< DemonJester> besides another FAD planning meeting sometime nope 22:30< inode0> let's arrange that in fedora-ambassadors 22:30< inode0> going 22:30< inode0> who has the archive of the whole meeting and would volunteer to post it? 22:31-!- jtaber [n=front@68-27-236-157.area1.spcsdns.net] has quit ["leaving"] 22:31< DemonJester> I think I have it logged. 22:31< inode0> thanks 22:31< inode0> gone 22:31< inode0> EOF
-- Regards,
BrianPowell http://fedoraproject.org