On Wed, 2014-06-04 at 16:11 +0200, Jakub Hrozek wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 04, 2014 at 09:58:20AM +0200, Sumit Bose wrote:
> > On Wed, Jun 04, 2014 at 08:42:21AM +0200, Jakub Hrozek wrote:
> > > On Tue, Jun 03, 2014 at 04:22:51PM -0400, Simo Sorce wrote:
> > > > On Tue, 2014-06-03 at 15:52 -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
> > > > > On 06/03/2014 08:26 AM, Pavel Reichl wrote:
> > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I noticed that if using simple access provider and having
> > > > > > non-existing group or user in access/deny list then access
will be
> > > > > > denied and "su: System error" will be printed.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I think it's OK to simply skip non-existing objects on
allow_list.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm not so sure what to do in case of deny lists.
Should we also
> > > > > > just skip them or should we deny the user and print more
> > > > > > appropriate message ("su: Permission denied")?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I agree that skipping (and logging) on allow lists is fine.
> > > > >
> > > > > For deny lists, it implies that either 1) the admin typoed the
> > > > > user/group name in the list or 2) that the user/group was
removed from
> > > > > LDAP.
> > > > >
> > > > > In the first case, we're potentially dealing with privilege
leakage
> > > > > (someone who shouldn't have access has it due to an admin
> > > > > misconfiguration). In the second case, this is perhaps just
normal
> > > > > operating changes and shouldn't require client
modification.
> > > > >
> > > > > As I type this, I become more certain that the correct approach
here
> > > > > should be to log this with a better message (in both
> > > > > SSSDBG_CRIT_FAILURE and sss_log) and just proceed as if it
didn't exist.
> > > > >
> > > > > A better message would perhaps be:
> > > > > "The [user|group] %s does not exist. Possible typo in
> > > > > simple_[allow|deny]_[users|groups]"
> > > >
> > > > The secure thing to do is to fail, because you do not know with
> > > > certainty who should be allowed.
> > >
> > > So if an admin typoes a group, noone can log in? That might effectivelly
> > > lock out legitimate access that would subsequently use sudo vi to fix the
> > > typo..
> >
> > I think we can skip with a log message in the allow case because then
> > access is still only allowed if another entry matches.
> >
> > In the deny case I would prefer a reject as well. With this we would
> > make the allow list more comfortable to use and people might rethink
> > their deny list usage in environments where groups are often deleted or
> > renamed.
> >
> > bye,
> > Sumit
>
> OK, that sounds like a far compromise. I also hope noone would use the
> deny list then. Thanks!
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Hello,
new patches are attached.
1st patch:
I amended the debug messages as Stephen suggested.
Non-existing objects are ignored on allow lists, but imply access denied
on deny lists.
2nd patch:
amended mam page - documenting missing objects from deny lists.
3rd patch:
Minor optimization - don't continue matching username with names from
simple_allow_list after successful match.
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I have to update these patches because currently only existence of
domain is checked. I have to expand the testing to check if every
user/group member of deny list exist.