On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 12:02 PM, Chris Murphy <lists(a)colorremedies.com> wrote:
On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 11:11 AM, Matthew Miller
<mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 05:51:02PM +0200, Jiri Eischmann wrote:
>> conversation with Kamil Paral today:
>> Wayland has not been proposed as a change for Fedora 25 and no one
>> outside the workstation group knows it's still a plan unless they
>> follow our mailing list closely.
>> Fedora QA doesn't test Wayland, Wayland test cases are not part of test
>> matrices and so forth.
>> Now for the rest of the Fedora Project we're going with X11 for F25 and
>> Wayland is still just the experimental thingy. To make it default it
>> needs to go through thorough testing by the QA team and it needs to be
>> part of test matrices.
>
> We really _do_ need to go through the proper process here. Please
> remember, Fedora is a huge project with hundreds of active
> contributors, and this isn't just mere bureaucracy. We require the
> coordination in order to continue to produce the reoccuring miracle
> that is a functioning Fedora release.
>
> I'm excited as anyone for the new features and improvements Wayland
> brings to the table, but let's do it right.
If someone wants to file a FESCo ticket to get it approved as a late
change, I think that's reasonable. But tomorrow is go/no-go and I
think it's at least as risky to flip back to Xorg by default as it is
to leave Wayland the default; and no doubt FESCo would take QA's
opinion on the late change into account but this lateness I think is
pretty minor compared to some of the late changes that have happened
in the past.
Since it's no go, there's a good chance filing a ticket sometime today
means it gets reviewed by FESCo at this Friday's meeting. Ideally the
WG would not have deferred the Wayland question to next week's WG
meeting. But a FESCo ticket could at least resolve whether the change
would be accepted should the WG decide next week to proceed with
Wayland by default; or if it's simply too late now and must be
postponed to Fedora 26.
I'm with sgallagh on this, rip off the bandaid. But that's not one of
the official process options.
--
Chris Murphy