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Workstation WG Meeting, January 9 (secretary: Jens)
by Michael Catanzaro 02 Jan '24

02 Jan '24

Hi all, The next meeting of the Fedora Workstation Working Group is planned for Tuesday, January 9 at 10:00 AM EST (15:00 UTC). This agenda is tentative since I'm sending it several weeks early; there's still time to change the agenda if needed. Join link: https://meet.opensuse.org/FedoraWorkstationWG Tentative Agenda #topic Fractional scaling #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/357 #topic Announcements and status updates #topic Minutes from last week #link https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2023-12-13/workstation.2…

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Upcoming Workstation WG Meetings Canceled
by Michael Catanzaro 02 Jan '24

02 Jan '24

Hi, I'm going to cancel the Workstation WG meeting for the next 3 weeks. We'll next meet on Tuesday, January 9. The focus of that meeting will likely be fractional scaling. (I had been planning to hold the meeting next Tuesday and most of us were available to attend, but we are going to need more time to prepare for the fractional scaling discussion, and there are not currently other topics that need to be urgently scheduled.) Michael

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Workstation WG
by catanzaro＠fedoraproject.org 02 Jan '24

02 Jan '24

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Workstation WG on 2023-11-28 from 10:00:00 to 10:50:00 US/Eastern At https://meet.opensuse.org/FedoraWorkstationWG The meeting will be about: Regular meeting for the Workstation Working Group Current Topics: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issues?status=Open&tags=meeting Etherpad: https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/fedora-workstation-wg More information available at: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Workstation Source: https://calendar.fedoraproject.org//meeting/10658/

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Workstation WG
by catanzaro＠fedoraproject.org 25 Dec '23

25 Dec '23

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Workstation WG on 2023-12-26 from 10:00:00 to 10:50:00 US/Eastern At https://meet.opensuse.org/FedoraWorkstationWG The meeting will be about: Regular meeting for the Workstation Working Group Current Topics: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issues?status=Open&tags=meeting Etherpad: https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/fedora-workstation-wg More information available at: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Workstation Source: https://calendar.fedoraproject.org//meeting/10687/

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Workstation WG
by catanzaro＠fedoraproject.org 18 Dec '23

18 Dec '23

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Workstation WG on 2023-12-19 from 10:00:00 to 10:50:00 US/Eastern At https://meet.opensuse.org/FedoraWorkstationWG The meeting will be about: Regular meeting for the Workstation Working Group Current Topics: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issues?status=Open&tags=meeting Etherpad: https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/fedora-workstation-wg More information available at: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Workstation Source: https://calendar.fedoraproject.org//meeting/10658/

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Fedora Workstation WG minutes, 2023-12-12
by Chris Murphy 13 Dec '23

13 Dec '23

============================================== #fedora-meeting-2: Workstation WG (2023-12-12) ============================================== Meeting started by brainycmurf at 06:27:12 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2023-12-13/workstation.2… . Meeting summary --------------- * Present members: Michael, Kalev, Allan, Chris, Owen, Neal (brainycmurf, 06:27:13) * Guests: (brainycmurf, 06:27:13) * Regrets: Tomas, Matthias, Jens (brainycmurf, 06:27:15) * Missing: (brainycmurf, 06:27:17) * Secretary: Kalev (brainycmurf, 06:27:19) * Switch from meet.opensuse.org to a different conferencing platform (brainycmurf, 06:27:21) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/403 (brainycmurf, 06:27:23) * Learning from the F40 “tuned replaces ppd” change proposal (brainycmurf, 06:27:32) * LINK: https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/learning-from-the-f40-tuned-replaces… (brainycmurf, 06:27:34) * Announcements and status updates (brainycmurf, 06:27:51) * LINK: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2023-12-06/workstation.2… (brainycmurf, 06:28:01) Meeting ended at 06:28:04 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * brainycmurf (24) * zodbot (7) * Michael (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.4 .. _`MeetBot`: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zodbot#Meeting_Functions

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Workstation WG
by catanzaro＠fedoraproject.org 11 Dec '23

11 Dec '23

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Workstation WG on 2023-12-12 from 10:00:00 to 10:50:00 US/Eastern At https://meet.opensuse.org/FedoraWorkstationWG The meeting will be about: Regular meeting for the Workstation Working Group Current Topics: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issues?status=Open&tags=meeting Etherpad: https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/fedora-workstation-wg More information available at: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Workstation Source: https://calendar.fedoraproject.org//meeting/10658/

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Workstation WG Meeting, December 12 (secretary: Jens)
by Michael Catanzaro 06 Dec '23

06 Dec '23

Hi all, The next meeting of the Fedora Workstation Working Group is planned for December 5 at 10:00 AM EST (15:00 UTC). We have a relatively light agenda this time, so let's plan on meeting for 25 minutes instead of the usual 50 minutes. Join link: https://meet.opensuse.org/FedoraWorkstationWG Agenda #topic Switch from meet.opensuse.org to a different conferencing platform #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/403 #topic Learning from the F40 “tuned replaces ppd” change proposal #link https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/learning-from-the-f40-tuned-replaces… #topic Announcements and status updates #topic Minutes from last week #link https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2023-12-06/workstation.2…

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Fedora Workstation WG minutes, 2023-12-05
by Chris Murphy 06 Dec '23

06 Dec '23

============================================== #fedora-meeting-2: Workstation WG (2023-12-05) ============================================== Meeting started by brainycmurf at 03:42:07 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2023-12-06/workstation.2… . Meeting summary --------------- * Present members: Michael, Owen, Kalev, Allan, Chris (brainycmurf, 03:42:07) * Guests: (brainycmurf, 03:42:07) * Regrets: Tomas, Matthias, Jens (brainycmurf, 03:42:07) * Missing: (brainycmurf, 03:42:09) * Secretary:Owen (brainycmurf, 03:42:11) * Switch from meet.opensuse.org to a different conferencing platform (brainycmurf, 03:42:13) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/403 (brainycmurf, 03:42:15) * new setup (meet-test.opensuse.org) working well for some people, some people seeing video bugs; extensive discussion of alternatives. Will keep meet-test.opensuse.org for now. (brainycmurf, 03:42:17) * Enable full preemption (brainycmurf, 03:42:20) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/228 (brainycmurf, 03:42:22) * Owen with general agreement suggested that doing this by kernel command line is not great - very hard to upgrades, hard to do just for some variants. Chris sent a mail to llkml some time ago about moving switch from debugfs to sysfs, but didn't get a response. (brainycmurf, 03:42:24) * Neal would like to see characterization of this on server workloads so that we could enable across variants (brainycmurf, 03:42:28) * Discussion of whether we *know* this is desktop only, or might make sense for server workloads as well - especially now that serv7ers are often running more complex workloads with cgroups, etc. (brainycmurf, 03:42:31) * Discussion of how to test - what are the (desktop) workloads that we expect this to make a difference - OBS streaming? Audio? (Fedora Jam apparently sets up preempt=full). Is sysprof useful for testing whether preempt=full improves responsiveness/smoothess of GNOME shell under high load (brainycmurf, 03:42:36) * ACTION: Chris and Neal to check in with members of Meta kernel team to see if they have insight about moving the switch out of debugfs - or how to move forward for there. (brainycmurf, 03:42:40) * Announcements and status updates (brainycmurf, 03:42:43) * LINK: https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/learning-from-the-f40-tuned-replaces… (brainycmurf, 03:42:45) * discussion of role of working group vs. fesco in change proposal process (brainycmurf, 03:42:48) * Allan change proposals were conceived as "notification" of things coming from upstream (brainycmurf, 03:42:50) * Neal - there's a split between notications of upcoming upstream changes, and change proposals for work that is being done downstream - specific to fedora, and the second set of things is getting larger; policy documents lag behind. (brainycmurf, 03:42:52) * Nobody wanted to copy the releng part where there has to be a ticket filed (brainycmurf, 03:42:56) * Allan felt there isn't enough time between posting and voting - that voting can get in the way of the discussion. (brainycmurf, 03:42:58) * LINK: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2023-11-30/workstation.2… (brainycmurf, 03:43:03) Meeting ended at 03:43:08 UTC. Action Items ------------ * Chris and Neal to check in with members of Meta kernel team to see if they have insight about moving the switch out of debugfs - or how to move forward for there. Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * Chris and Neal to check in with members of Meta kernel team to see if they have insight about moving the switch out of debugfs - or how to move forward for there. People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * brainycmurf (28) * zodbot (7) * Michael (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.4 .. _`MeetBot`: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zodbot#Meeting_Functions

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Workstation WG
by catanzaro＠fedoraproject.org 04 Dec '23

04 Dec '23

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Workstation WG on 2023-12-05 from 10:00:00 to 10:50:00 US/Eastern At https://meet.opensuse.org/FedoraWorkstationWG The meeting will be about: Regular meeting for the Workstation Working Group Current Topics: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issues?status=Open&tags=meeting Etherpad: https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/fedora-workstation-wg More information available at: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Workstation Source: https://calendar.fedoraproject.org//meeting/10658/

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