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F32, Automatic suspend isn't working.
by Chris Murphy 01 Nov '22

01 Nov '22

cross-posting test@ and desktop@ Fedora Workstation 32 (upgraded from f31) Laptop on battery power set aside, 12 hours later it's dead instead of sleeping. On F31 it reliably would sleep after 20 minutes. Sleep still happens when pressing the power button and closing the lid. It seems to be a GNOME automatic suspend timer problem. Using dconf editor, I changed the /org/gnome/settings-daemon/plugins/power/sleep-inactive-battery-timeout Custom value 30 and the problem doesn't happen. Is there a way to increase debug messages somehow to find out whether this timeout is being reached? And what process or policy is causing it to be reset? With the available information I can't figure out what's preventing sleep. -- Chris Murphy

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Release criteria proposal: networking requirements
by Adam Williamson 01 Mar '22

01 Mar '22

Hi folks! So at this week's blocker review meeting, the fact that we don't have explicit networking requirements in the release criteria really started to bite us. In the past we have squeezed networking-related issues in under other criteria, but for some issues that's really difficult, notably VPN issues. So, we agreed we should draft some explicit networking criteria. This turns out to be a big area and quite hard to cover (who'd've thought!), but here is at least a first draft for us to start from. My proposal would be to add this to the Basic criteria. I have left out some wikitext stuff from the proposal for clarity; I'd add it back in on actually applying the proposed changes. It's just formatting stuff, nothing that'd change the meaning. Anyone have thoughts, complaints, alternative approaches, supplements? Thanks! === Network requirements === Each of these requirements apply to both installer and installed system environments. For any given installer environment, the 'default network configuration tools' are considered to be those the installer documents as supported ways to configure networking (e.g. for anaconda-based environments, configuration via kernel command line options, a kickstart, or interactively in anaconda itself are included). ==== Basic networking ==== It must be possible to establish both IPv4 and IPv6 network connections using DHCP and static addressing. The default network configuration tools for the console and for release-blocking desktops must work well enough to allow typical network connection configuration operations without major workarounds. Standard network functions such as address resolution and connections with common protocols such as ping, HTTP and ssh must work as expected. Footnote titled "Supported hardware": Supported network hardware is hardware for which the Fedora kernel includes drivers and, where necessary, for which a firmware package is available. If support for a commonly-used piece or type of network hardware that would usually be present is omitted, that may constitute a violation of this criterion, after consideration of the [[Blocker_Bug_FAQ|hardware-dependent- issues|normal factors for hardware-dependent issues]]. Similarly, violations of this criteria that are hardware or configuration dependent are, as usual, subject to consideration of those factors when determining whether they are release-blocking ==== VPN connections ==== Using the default network configuration tools for the console and for release-blocking desktops, it must be possible to establish a working connection to common OpenVPN, openconnect-supported and vpnc-supported VNC servers with typical configurations. Footnote title "Supported servers and configurations": As there are many different VPN server applications and configurations, blocker reviewers must use their best judgment in determining whether violations of this criterion are likely to be encountered commonly enough to block a release, and if so, at which milestone. As a general principle, the more people are likely to use affected servers and the less complicated the configuration required to hit the bug, the more likely it is to be a blocker. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net

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2020-12-01 Meeting Agenda (secretary: Kalev)
by Michael Catanzaro 01 Dec '20

01 Dec '20

Workstation Working Group Meeting Date and Time: 2020-12-012 9:30 am EST 14:30 UTC Location: https://bluejeans.com/395383051/ https://www.bluejeans.com/numbers Approval of 24 Nov minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2020-11-25/workstation.2… Announcements, follow-ups, status reports GNOME Software is recommending proprietary software https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/203 Automatically install the OpenH264 codecs https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/84 Give ABRT some ❤ https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/130 Open Floor

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Workstation WG
by catanzaro＠fedoraproject.org 30 Nov '20

30 Nov '20

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Workstation WG on 2020-12-01 from 09:30:00 to 10:30:00 US/Eastern At https://bluejeans.com/395383051/ The meeting will be about: Regular meeting for the Workstation Working Group Current Topics: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issues?status=Open&tags=meeting Etherpad: https://etherpad.gnome.org/p/fedora-workstation-wg More information available at: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Workstation Source: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/meeting/9652/

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Fedora Workstation WG minutes, 2020-11-24
by Chris Murphy 24 Nov '20

24 Nov '20

============================================== #fedora-meeting-2: Workstation WG (2020-11-24) ============================================== Meeting started by cmurf at 02:47:33 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2020-11-25/workstation.2… . Meeting summary --------------- * Rollcall (cmurf, 02:48:01) * present: Michael, Allan, Jens, Langdon, Matthias, Neal, Tomas, Chris, Owen (cmurf, 02:48:02) * regrets wg members: (cmurf, 02:48:04) * present guests: James, Felipe (cmurf, 02:48:06) * Approve of 17 Nov minutes: (cmurf, 02:48:08) * LINK: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/teams/workstation/workstation.2020-11-19-… (cmurf, 02:48:10) * Announcements, follow-ups, status reports (cmurf, 02:48:12) * Automatically install the OpenH264 codecs (cmurf, 02:48:30) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/84 (cmurf, 02:48:32) * Further design work needed, but we have a basic idea (cmurf, 02:48:40) * H264 support for Firefox (cmurf, 02:48:42) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/126 (cmurf, 02:48:44) * ACTION: Michael will work with Martin to adjust the firefox wrapper shell script for this case (cmurf, 02:48:56) * GNOME Software is recommending proprietary software (cmurf, 02:48:58) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/111 (cmurf, 02:49:00) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/203 (cmurf, 02:49:02) * LINK: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-software/-/issues/921 (cmurf, 02:49:12) * Further discussion needed upstream (cmurf, 02:49:16) * Open Floor (cmurf, 02:49:18) Meeting ended at 03:07:03 UTC. Action Items ------------ * Michael will work with Martin to adjust the firefox wrapper shell script for this case Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * Michael will work with Martin to adjust the firefox wrapper shell script for this case People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * cmurf (46) * zodbot (7) * mcatanzaro (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Workstation WG
by catanzaro＠fedoraproject.org 23 Nov '20

23 Nov '20

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Workstation WG on 2020-11-24 from 09:30:00 to 10:30:00 US/Eastern At https://bluejeans.com/395383051/ The meeting will be about: Regular meeting for the Workstation Working Group Current Topics: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issues?status=Open&tags=meeting Etherpad: https://etherpad.gnome.org/p/fedora-workstation-wg More information available at: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Workstation Source: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/meeting/9652/

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2020-11-24 meeting agenda
by Michael Catanzaro 22 Nov '20

22 Nov '20

Workstation Working Group Meeting Date and Time: 2020-11-24 9:30 am EST 14:30 UTC Location: https://bluejeans.com/395383051/ https://www.bluejeans.com/numbers Approval of 17 Nov minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2020-11-19/workstation.2… Announcements, follow-ups, status reports Automatically install the OpenH264 codecs https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/84 H264 support for Firefox https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/126 GNOME Software is recommending proprietary software https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/111 Open Floor

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Re: libcap-ng update coming to rawhide
by Adam Williamson 19 Nov '20

19 Nov '20

On Wed, 2020-11-18 at 14:32 -0500, Steve Grubb wrote: > On Thursday, November 12, 2020 2:45:41 PM EST Steve Grubb wrote: > > A new version of libcap-ng is going to be released next week. Normally this > > isn't newsworthy, nor is this a soname version bump. But it is important > > to let the broader community know something about it. The behaviour of > > capng_apply is changing slightly. > > > > In the past, capng_apply would silently eat errors when the bounding set > > could not be changed. In order to change the bounding set, you have to have > > > > CAP_SETPCAP. A developer reported an issue in github where their project > > needed to know that capng_apply was completely successful changing the > > bounding set. Meaning that they need an error returned. I didn't think too > > much of it and made the change. > > > > Then one day I noticed that I could not update a package against Fedora's > > git or push a change. Looking into this, I found gnome-keyring was not > > working. [1] I dug into the source code and found that it was trying to > > change the bounding set when it had partial capabilities. The fix is to > > simply verify that you have CAP_SETPCAP before attempting this. > > > > I don't know of any other software that is affected. But I wanted to give > > everyone a heads up before I push it out. I always dogfood libraries I > > work on, so maybe this is the only issue. > > > > Eventually libcap-ng needs to get pushed over to F33 because there is a > > problem with ambient capailities that the new release fixes. And speaking > > of ambient capabilities, the new version of libcap-ng contains a new > > library libdrop_ambient.so. You can use it with LD_PRELOAD to force an app > > to drop ambient capabilities leaving the other capabilities intact. All > > the work is done in the constructor, so no function calls are needed. > > Hello, > > The new libcap-ng has been built into rawhide. ...and it does break gnome-keyring, and it also breaks cifs-utils (so you can't mount CIFS/SMB shares), as per this upstream bug report: https://github.com/stevegrubb/libcap-ng/issues/21 whose reporter also noted what looks like a valid problem in your gnome-keyring fix. Was it really necessary to build this when you *knew* a major package did not work with it? Did you talk to the Workstation folks about getting the patch applied to gnome-keyring? -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net

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Fedora Workstation WG minutes, 2020-11-17
by Chris Murphy 18 Nov '20

18 Nov '20

============================================== #fedora-meeting-2: Workstation WG (2020-11-17) ============================================== Meeting started by cmurf at 01:40:29 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2020-11-19/workstation.2… . Meeting summary --------------- * Rollcall (cmurf, 01:40:47) * present: Jens, Owen, Michael, Matthias, Kalev, Neal, Chris (cmurf, 01:40:49) * regrets wg members: Tomas, Allan (cmurf, 01:40:51) * present guests: James, Wim Taymans (cmurf, 01:40:53) * Approve of 10 November minutes (cmurf, 01:40:55) * LINK: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/teams/workstation/workstation.2020-11-12-… (cmurf, 01:40:57) * AGREED: Approved - no objections (cmurf, 01:40:59) * Announcements, follow-ups, status reports (cmurf, 01:41:01) * 195: PulseAudio -> Pipewire migration (cmurf, 01:41:07) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/195 (cmurf, 01:41:09) * 84: automatically install openh264 codecs (cmurf, 01:41:49) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/84 (cmurf, 01:41:51) * LINK: https://github.com/cisco/openh264/issues/3350 is maybe related (cmurf, 01:42:07) * open floor (cmurf, 01:42:11) * LINK: https://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/fedora-33.html (cmurf, 01:42:15) Meeting ended at 01:42:25 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * cmurf (50) * zodbot (7) * mcatanzaro (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Workstation WG
by catanzaro＠fedoraproject.org 16 Nov '20

16 Nov '20

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Workstation WG on 2020-11-17 from 09:30:00 to 10:30:00 US/Eastern At https://bluejeans.com/395383051/ The meeting will be about: Regular meeting for the Workstation Working Group Current Topics: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issues?status=Open&tags=meeting Etherpad: https://etherpad.gnome.org/p/fedora-workstation-wg More information available at: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Workstation Source: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/meeting/9652/

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