The "Vision for the Fedora Workstation" really explained things in detail.
I think the process is much more difficult and complex than it seems to be
at first glance and it will take a long time to implement. The
Workstation PRD presented a lot of potential unknowns and I think it's
causing needless anxiety.
Perhaps people aren't entire clear as what the actual objective of the
project. My takeaway from the "Vision of Fedora Workstation" is that this
is about the future. Fedora Workstation is a product that will solve
problems currently being faced by Fedora Desktop right now. The very
concerns posted here including my own are actually problems the project
seeks to solve. From that perspective the desktop environment is rather
irrelevant. GNOME will collaborate with the process and in the end improve
their own desktop and it's design to solve those problems too.
Am I correct in this conclusion?
On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 12:28 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" <
johannbg(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On 02/11/2014 05:25 PM, Matthias Clasen wrote:
> On Tue, 2014-02-11 at 16:43 +0000, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
>
>> On 02/11/2014 02:20 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
>>
>> Unless Red Hat desktop team is interested in shifting some of its focus
>>> to
>>> Fedora itself. From what Christian says, I think that actually *is* the
>>> case
>>> -- if Gnome is chosen as the Fedora Workstation desktop, that means more
>>> people given time to work on that specifically. Right?
>>>
>> Under no circumstance should we be doing that since we pride ourselves
>> of working with/for upstream and thus as an distribution we represent
>> "upstreaming" to extent in the linux ecosystem.
>>
>> Here is a fallout [1] in Gnome for Red Hat/Fedora developers first and
>> foremost for not doing that.
>>
> Are you saying that we should give up on Fedora and instead just work on
> upstream GNOME ? Even more than we already are ? Thats the road for
> Fedora to become even more irrelevant, not less.
>
Given that we are at all time high shipping components in the distribution
what evidence do you have we are becoming irrelevant in the first place?
And if that is happening ( which I sincerely doubt ) what is the root
cause from it?
> I'm sorry, but I increasingly cannot make any sense of your
> contributions in this discussion.
>
What I'm saying is that we should first and foremost focus on upstreaming
and work with upstream rather then implementation/integrate *first*
downstream with us then push upstream.
JBG
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