On Sep 3, 2014, at 7:21 AM, Josh Boyer <jwboyer(a)fedoraproject.org> wrote:
On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 8:59 AM, Alberto Ruiz <aruiz(a)redhat.com>
wrote:
>
> Sure, I understand and concede that VBox does a shitty job wrt their
> drivers, but on the other hand it is one of the most popular desktop
> virtualization solutions, it is pretty much the only way to test a Linux
> desktop OS on top of Windows and Mac that doesn't require a license.
There are other repos that provide it. People are already enabling
those repos for everything else that is highly useful but not provided
by Fedora.
Ancient support from what I've seen so far. I suppose if I were more sane I'd go
back to the pleistocene of color and btrfs testing, ~2 years ago.
> To be fair I mostly care about the graphics drivers, I/O is not a big
> deal. The performance/experience of a GL enabled+autoresize guest vs. an
> llvmpipe one is more than noticeable (specially if you're running on
> battery).
>
> The problem here is that they don't keep up with Fedora Workstation
> kernels so the user always ends up having to install all the build
> dependencies and run their clumsy .run script and wait for everything to
> be built, installed and then restart the vm. Which is a pretty terrible
> experience.
It's also a pretty terrible experience when they do get it to build
and load and it crashes their kernel.
For me not even once in 4 years has linux crashed as a result of vbox guest drivers. Once
in 4 years has xnu crashed due to vbox kernel extensions. Maybe it's because xnu
isn't exactly the most bleeding edge of kernels or kernel development.
I consider myself to be fairly open to many things. Carrying
virtualbox modules out-of-tree when the authors refuse to even submit
them upstream for review and have no intention of ever doing so is not
one of those things. This is one of the few items where I simply say
no.
I agree with this. In for a penny, in for a pound.
I'm only in favor of a narrow carving for improving the Fedora-VirtualBox experience,
i.e. VirtualBox on Windows/OS X with Fedora as the guest, that's my interest. When I
run Fedora bare metal I haven't considered using it.
Chris Murphy