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Short Workstation meeting next week
by Michael Catanzaro 21 Apr '21

21 Apr '21

Hi, I'd like to do a shorter Workstation meeting next week to allow some time for people to attend Red Hat Summit [1] if desired. Instead of meeting from 9:30-10:20 AM EDT as usual, let's instead go from 9:30-9:55 AM EDT to avoid clashing with Summit. This will be a good meeting to handle small things, not a good time to attempt to tackle grand issues. In particular, I think we can nominate a chairperson for the F35 release cycle at the next meeting. If that's all we need to discuss next week, we might finish even earlier. Feel free to tag small issues with meeting-request as usual. You might notice I'm trying to follow Google Calendar's short meetings rule: 50 minute meetings in an hourlong timeslot, and 25 minute meetings in a half hour slot. Hopefully this makes the end of the meetings less stressful. ;) Michael [1] https://www.redhat.com/en/summit

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Fedora Workstation WG minutes, 2021-04-20
by Chris Murphy 21 Apr '21

21 Apr '21

============================================== #fedora-meeting-2: Workstation WG (2021-04-20) ============================================== Meeting started by cmurf at 03:40:43 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2021-04-21/workstation.2… . Meeting summary --------------- * Rollcall (cmurf, 03:41:00) * present: Allan, Chris, Tomas, Michael, Jens, Neal, Matthias, Langdon, Owen (cmurf, 03:41:03) * regrets: Kalev (cmurf, 03:41:05) * present guests: (cmurf, 03:41:07) * Approval of April 13 minutes (cmurf, 03:41:09) * LINK: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2021-04-14/workstation.2… (cmurf, 03:41:11) * AGREED: no objections, approved (cmurf, 03:41:13) * Announcements and Status reports (cmurf, 03:41:15) * Fedora 34 might slip again due to need to get shim signed (cmurf, 03:41:17) * ibus-* update scriplets hanging on baremetal in gnome (cmurf, 03:41:19) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1948197 (cmurf, 03:41:21) * The Workstation Working Group is a bottleneck (cmurf, 03:41:23) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/218 (cmurf, 03:41:25) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/218#comment-724075 (cmurf, 03:41:29) * discourse vs mailing lists (cmurf, 03:41:51) * opening up the working group (cmurf, 03:41:55) Meeting ended at 03:42:34 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * cmurf (34) * zodbot (7) * mcatanzaro (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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2021-04-20 Meeting Agenda (secretary: Langdon)
by Michael Catanzaro 19 Apr '21

19 Apr '21

Workstation Working Group Meeting Date and Time: 2021-04-20 9:30 AM EDT 13:30 UTC Location: https://bluejeans.com/395383051/ https://www.bluejeans.com/numbers Approval of April 12 minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2021-04-14/workstation.2… Announcements, follow-ups, status reports The Workstation Working Group is a bottleneck https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/218 Open Floor

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Workstation WG
by catanzaro＠fedoraproject.org 19 Apr '21

19 Apr '21

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Workstation WG on 2021-04-20 from 09:30:00 to 10:30:00 US/Eastern At https://bluejeans.com/395383051/ The meeting will be about: Regular meeting for the Workstation Working Group Current Topics: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issues?status=Open&tags=meeting Etherpad: https://etherpad.gnome.org/p/fedora-workstation-wg More information available at: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Workstation Source: https://calendar.fedoraproject.org//meeting/9884/

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Re: F34, pipewire and orca (screen reader)
by Adam Williamson 15 Apr '21

15 Apr '21

On Thu, 2021-04-15 at 09:38 +0200, dileepa.tissera dileepa.tissera wrote: > Hello Adam, > > The bug that was opened and closed was about Orca actually not > talking at all once Fedora rawhide or 34 was installed. > Yes, until a fix is put on Anaconda, the installer won’t talk, unless > the gnome environment is switched to Gnome on xorg, then, it’ll talk > as expected. > A workaround is to install the Mate respin, on which the installer > works beautifully. > Best regards. > Francisco > Thanks. Is the "not talking in the installer" thing new with Pipewire, or was it the same with Pulseaudio? Aside from that issue, is it generally working as expected in current F34 with pipewire 0.3.24? Thanks again! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net

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F34, pipewire and orca (screen reader)
by Adam Williamson 15 Apr '21

15 Apr '21

Hi folks! Sending to test@ and desktop@, and CCing two folks who reported problems. So I finally got some time today to look into the reports of screen reader functionality not working well in F34, with GNOME 40 and Pipewire. I wrote the latest F34 nightly live to a USB stick, booted it on my test laptop, and turned on the screen reader. It initially seems to work - it reads out some of the contents of the welcome window, and it reads out things in the GNOME environment when I click on them. However, after I launch the installer it does not seem to read anything in the installer. Is that normal/expected? I do see that a bug was opened: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1940311 and closed as 'fixed' by pipewire 0.3.24: https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2021-2c994d0609 but I'm not sure if that's the whole story. I haven't tested how it behaves after install yet, I'll try and do that tomorrow. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net

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Fedora Workstation WG minutes, 2021-04-13
by Chris Murphy 14 Apr '21

14 Apr '21

============================================== #fedora-meeting-2: Workstation WG (2021-04-13) ============================================== Meeting started by cmurf at 05:26:25 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2021-04-14/workstation.2… . Meeting summary --------------- * Rollcall (cmurf, 05:26:46) * present: Allan, Chris, Tomas, Michael, Jens, Neal, Kalev, Matthias, Owen, Langdon (cmurf, 05:26:48) * regrets: (cmurf, 05:26:50) * present guests: (cmurf, 05:26:52) * Approval of Mar 30 minutes (cmurf, 05:26:54) * LINK: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2021-03-31/workstation.2… (cmurf, 05:26:56) * AGREED: no objections, approved (cmurf, 05:26:58) * Fedora 34 might slip due to need to get shim signed, uboot, and other blockers (cmurf, 05:27:00) * Talking to wider Fedora community (cmurf, 05:27:02) * ACTION: mclasen to reach out to Matthew and Brian about invitation in about a month (cmurf, 05:27:08) * WG chair for next release cycle (cmurf, 05:27:10) * Fedora media writer shipped on fedora workstation by default https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/214 (cmurf, 05:27:14) * AGREED: Including FMW is approved for F35 (+5,-2, 3 abstains) (cmurf, 05:27:26) * The Workstation Working Group is a bottleneck https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/218 (cmurf, 05:27:28) Meeting ended at 05:29:49 UTC. Action Items ------------ * mclasen to reach out to Matthew and Brian about invitation in about a month Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * mclasen to reach out to Matthew and Brian about invitation in about a month People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * cmurf (32) * zodbot (7) * mcatanzaro (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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2021-04-12 Meeting Agenda (secretary: Owen)
by Michael Catanzaro 13 Apr '21

13 Apr '21

Workstation Working Group Meeting Date and Time: 2021-04-12 9:30 AM EDT 13:30 UTC Location: https://bluejeans.com/395383051/ https://www.bluejeans.com/numbers Approval of Mar 30 minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2021-03-31/workstation.2… Announcements, follow-ups, status reports Fedora media writer shipped on fedora workstation by default https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/214 The Workstation Working Group is a bottleneck https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/218 Open Floor

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Workstation WG
by catanzaro＠fedoraproject.org 12 Apr '21

12 Apr '21

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Workstation WG on 2021-04-13 from 09:30:00 to 10:30:00 US/Eastern At https://bluejeans.com/395383051/ The meeting will be about: Regular meeting for the Workstation Working Group Current Topics: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issues?status=Open&tags=meeting Etherpad: https://etherpad.gnome.org/p/fedora-workstation-wg More information available at: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Workstation Source: https://calendar.fedoraproject.org//meeting/9884/

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2021-04-06 Meeting Agenda (secretary: Owen)
by Michael Catanzaro 06 Apr '21

06 Apr '21

Workstation Working Group Meeting Date and Time: 2021-04-06 9:30 AM EDT 13:30 UTC Location: https://bluejeans.com/395383051/ https://www.bluejeans.com/numbers Approval of Mar 30 minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2021-03-31/workstation.2… Announcements, follow-ups, status reports Fedora media writer shipped on fedora workstation by default https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/214 The Workstation Working Group is a bottleneck https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/218 Open Floor

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