On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 16:12:34 -0000, Alisha Mohanty wrote:
Most of the starters are not able to get all the information he/she requires while onboarding. A well-maintained Landing page is what they need, which should give them a clear and overall idea of what Fedora does and what are the fields that they find interesting. This will be a proper head start, and later when they are sure, guidance can be sought by Fedora Join SIG members. An assembly of all the required resources at one platform will not only help the newcomer to get a clear idea of what he/she will be doing with the different areas in the Fedora community, it will also help clear the doubts of the necessary question that might be running without the acknowledgment of any third person (sometimes starter who are beginners to open source feel shy to talk in a public platform).
I agree with most of this. I only have one point to note. Traditionally, when newcomers came, they already went straight to the onboarding process. (CommOps spent a lot of resources on helping each team improve their onboarding documentation). This wasn't working too well. People came in, jumped straight to tasks. The expectation was that through these tasks, they'd get integrated in the community.
The problems were: - first, most newcomers, who you correctly identify as shy, are also too timid to take up tickets; - next, if they do, they're still too shy to ask queries. - third, if they don't make friends in the community, after their few tasks, they leave.
So, we flipped this around. We don't want people to take up tasks and then meet people. We want them to first become Fedora community members, meet the people, and *then* take up tasks.
Hopefully, our new process reflects this idea :)
The new ticket template now includes information to help newcomers learn about FOSS and the community. It can be seen here. Please feel free to suggest improvements to this.
https://pagure.io/fedora-join/Welcome-to-Fedora/new_issue
Proposed Solution Planning a better New comer’s landing page WIP: https://pagure.io/fedora-join/Fedora-Join/issue/160 We should update this https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Join to provide the redirection saying it is not maintained, for recent update go to this https://pagure.io/fedora-join/Fedora-Join/issue/161 New Comer Landing page should have these proper redirections to these since these pages any newcomer would need to know Fedora well.
+1. This is still a WIP. Ideally, the landing page should be this: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/join/
As you see in #161, there is a PR waiting on the council-docs for this. The PR also suggests that wiki/Join be moved to wiki/Roles, which is really what it is.
Wcidff (which also need an update) (https://whatcanidoforfedora.org/en/)
Some of the ideas @hhlp has suggested in the post would help I guess: https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/what-to-do-with-wcidff-warning/13302
Easy-fix (https://fedoraproject.org/easyfix/)
This works, but we only point people to this page when they sort of know a few people in the community and are comfortable enough to jump in to tickets/tasks.
Fedora-apps (https://apps.fedoraproject.org/)
As you note also, this won't be around for much longer. So we should wait to see what happens here before making any plans around it.
Ideation of getting consistent contributors for Fedora! Organizing an Outreach Program I was thinking if we could do an outreach program for a short span(like 40-60 days) once a year, which would be something similar to that of a GSoC/Outreachy, but it would be solely organized by Fedora.
It would draw the attention of people who want to be a part of the community and do great projects. It would be a great opportunity, where we could get potential long term contributors for Fedora.
We could incorporate projects that require prior attention like Wcidff Working on the Docs etc Source of Inspiration - Season of KDE(https://season.kde.org/)
Proposing Wcidff as a GSoC/Outreachy project would be a good idea. (More project related discussions is here https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/what-to-do-with-wcidff-warning/13302)
This sounds like a great idea but it is a very big one. We (the Join SIG) do not have the man power to run something of this magnitude, though. It'll need more of the community to help---how do we ensure that?
A proper guideline for contributors to get a detailed idea of the areas that wcidff has like Design, Artwork Requests, Coding, etc. (A docs.f.o would be great)
I'm not sure I understand this one. Could you please elaborate?
Converting this article to a docs.fp.o page might be helpful https://fedoramagazine.org/how-to-contribute-to-fedora/ (Suggestion- It might fit into CommOps docs https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/commops/ )
Maybe. It's a simpler version of wiki/Join, so maybe we can just add wiki/Join to the new-issue template? (I've personally always felt that wiki/Join was far too detailed and not appropriate for newcomers.)
Apps. Fedora (https://apps.fedoraproject.org/) is a great resource for boarders to get a clear idea of different applications Fedora. But eventually, the site might go down as CPE Team might not want to maintain it. So, we should either get an alternative or maintain it.
Someone is already working on it from what I remember.
These were some of the ideas I thought might need some limelight and some I personally want to present.
Any suggestions would be highly helpful!
Thanks---that is very useful. So, all our ideas/initiatives must keep in mind that fact that we're very limited on man-power. So, taking that into account, if we are to think about implementing these ideas, how would you prioritise them to make the most impact?