Meeting whenisgood
by Ankur Sinha
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA256
Hiya,
Here's the whenisgood link. I've limited the slots to times that I can
make it. Please select the slots you are available to meet in.
http://whenisgood.net/kg3cf5k
- --
Thanks,
Regards,
Ankur Sinha "FranciscoD"
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ankursinha
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: GnuPG v2
iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJXxpTmAAoJEPjYwL66yJi9QNAH/AkQN9eDJi0ttQU9HfI9zSaS
yMZYwYz+X9heNPL6zFGxSL150rfPB3yBh4jmmrsAQOrPj0PgGV4Ie0xAiLHQ6f3y
jUTxdOLQAosRhzQSzIef1qTPLFLsYt0neoUFDnHeGhAg817Vyp1AQf8pzqJYMii0
oxMtAwI4GXJ0BP4cun+kVW1H189Cn4PgtjSxPQHkhOREQgnl4G6p2Edq8+ox810T
UwBkuLbpUhlqj6+S3t072KsCiFYDYMHV8xy7pNyyPllABepzx+h2S7JHfOf3trqO
fh60NlB5AEt+FiW0zyAXvbFWvpIGr1E1Y1C0RBd+OcegkDqaztRiAG2+iXuNOrE=
=oZpk
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
7 years, 6 months
Discussion - issues with Fedora Join - solutions/ideas and TODOs?
by Ankur Sinha
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA256
Hiya,
Before I begin, if you're a member of the Fedora community already,
please apply for membership to the fedora-join group in FAS[1].
(That'll give us an idea of how many community members are interested
in the SIG.) If you are a newbie and haven't introduced yourself yet,
please do so.
It's a somewhat long e-mail, but please bear with me and skim through
it. I encourage *everyone* to reply to this e-mail with ideas/comments!
Background and aim of this group
- ---------------------------------
For years now, we've heard that new potential contributors (henceforth
referred to as "newbies") have a hard time joining the community. The
reasons for this include, but are not limited to:
- - newbies are timid (think squirrels!)
- - newbies aren't used to the open source way of self education (Google
the hell out of things, RTFM attitude, shamelessly ask questions if
needed, NO spoon feeding and so on)
- - newbies lose interest if they don't make friends and integrate into
the community in a few weeks (few days?).
- - the community is *vast*, spread over different teams with their own
systems and procedures, and for someone new, finding the right
people/channels/procedures can be quite daunting.
- - community members are usually quite busy to give detailed replies -
we're all volunteers here.
- - more?
So the idea of setting up the SIG was to set up channels of
communication where newbies can come and in an extremely friendly
environment form relationships within themselves, and with the
community.
For this to work, we need:
- - the infrastructure. We have:
* #fedora-join
* this mailing list
- - community members hanging out in these channels and willing to speak
to newbies, help them get in touch with the right people, help them
find the right resources, and so on.
- - newbies.
I hope this makes sense to everyone? Does everyone agree that the idea
is a sane one? Any tweaks?
How are we doing?
- ------------------
Well, not too good, I'd say. We've helped out some folks in the past,
but we're not as active as we should be. Ideally, we should be up to
our ears in e-mails and questions and people. So why aren't we?
- - Part of this is of course because we're busy with other things;
- - Part of this is also because we haven't managed to gain enough
traction to get more members of the community involved in helping out
at the group.
- - I'm not sure the entire community is aware of the existence of the
channels we've set up
- - I'm not sure if we are visible enough for newbies to find us (for
example, we're not on whatcanidoforfedora.org)
Other related reasons:
- - we don't meet often (but do we need regular IRC meetings?)
What can we do?
- ---------------
Now, this is the interesting bit! What do we do to improve the current
state? Events (physical/IRC), make more noise, turn up in the right
places, make ourselves more visible?
Off the top of my head:
- - We should make more noise to inform the community that we're here to
help newbies get started
- - I think we need to be better organised. For example, we don't have a
SOP document (standard operating procedure) to guide either newbies or
contributors to this group. Maybe we can set up a pagure repo where we
open a new ticket for each newbie, and then close it when the newbie's
integrated nicely with the community?
- - We need to embrace metrics too - how many newbies do we have on this
list? How many have we helped? Maybe we can set up a feedback form and
request newbies to fill it out when they're ready? How many
contributors do we have on this list? How often do people refer newbies
to our channels?
- - We need to integrate better with the community - we seem to be a
standalone group at the moment, and that just won't work. Maybe we
could integrate with CommOps better, since CommOps has members from the
different teams?
- - Maybe an IRC meeting a month just to keep ourselves active wouldn't
be such a bad idea?
- - The fas group is only for community members, do we need another for
newbies? Should we just open the group to newbies? (This can then be
used to give them wiki access which has been limited to cla+1 to deal
with spam.)
- - What else?
Please, add to this list!
Other stuff
- ------------
Please do keep up with the Fedora hubs initiative[2]. It's going to be
marvellous! It also has some functionality to enable people to join
groups, but I still don't think it's a complete replacement for good
old school conversation when it comes to forming relationships.
Please, do reply to this e-mail with whatever ideas you have - we can't
improve things without ideas and discussion.
I'm still drowning in work, but when I do have time off (like this long
weekend!), I'm going to be active. Most of you know that I lurk in a
lot of fedora channels as FranciscoD, please feel free to ping me.
[1] https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts/group/view/fedora-join
[2] https://fedoramagazine.org/5tftw-2015-06-19/
- --
Thanks,
Regards,
Ankur Sinha "FranciscoD"
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ankursinha
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: GnuPG v2
iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJXxF/7AAoJEPjYwL66yJi90g8IAJKimXJRaGhbEIpKnYrpTRyk
ltCHacYwwSpI2LJBKtmdvtZ9WU87r9/UgHDxOs8AB/BkFML56h6TU+jAkOOmo0CA
i9anYGk9gcinBrWhEx43uKBlEEDKzX0abCKn0YlbWZbCVYml+Es5GnRMZjYNoTK+
tvUz6S3giWJPM+RD13dDQKXtEBW+Ep2dZkuDD/V4EWM6xFeJLeKbPyEs3U8Owr4Y
RyNTE0IEUoldohQKbeTyEfIbgXbuBOUl3QV31kZUiVZKHo3LFYO11dw2XZCVzUgC
O/Rc2B2CQCJh1soT/p6Y+sarpBWd65v/P96EFNUsiiQodMXCv8/4ja8WP9gjSi4=
=92aM
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
7 years, 6 months
Feedback request: whatcanidoforfedora.org
by Ankur Sinha
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA256
Hiya,
I'm trying to collect some feedback on whatcanidoforfedora.org
(wcidff). If you have a few minutes, can you please try it out and then
answer these questions?
- - are you a Fedora contributor?
- - have you used wcidff before?
- - how did you learn of wcidff?
- - what language did you use wcidff in?
- - what device did you use to access wcidff?
- - did you find it useful?
- - did it successfully find you something to work on or a team to join?
- - how much time did it take you to find a task/team?
- - do you think wcidff followed the right path in finding you a
task/team?
- - did you enjoy using wcidff?
- - would you recommend wcidff to others?
- - did wcidff help you understand the workings of the community better?
- - do you feel more confident about contributing after using wcidff?
Just yes/no answers will suffice, but feel free to give some comments
if you wish :)
- --
Thanks,
Regards,
Ankur Sinha "FranciscoD"
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ankursinha
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: GnuPG v2
iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJXx1pbAAoJEPjYwL66yJi9zUAIALLfz1qVyHWzP9q9D+dLo0SG
0II0Bd3PakpOk3wCUjx70f7lpDK5RfctjM4hp5tERys90DH6+ZEcKL/wTlt2BpNc
7bpl2KMDk3kB9FQf8Tzp64zpdYUulsZoa/Jq3z55HUxfEzwHSWti0JLIOUUGduP4
3Hi1PZpbm8uxRdmBtN6EZEItF0CUGH6ZHev+YV/2vgSxo7Ds9XEnWlc7vN/7Bga+
YD+TUJXy3TVVkJdaYJVaB1OKkVo6nwjugA67zGkZWmRnyFF+5EX8vpMD5gb933Kg
0TL5dvT+i5oXkMlY2sG3ykEz6zyWXAxWycbhECtGiRhrrPE8lY26z6XhGr481ZM=
=/UuF
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
7 years, 6 months
Re: Discussion - issues with Fedora Join - solutions/ideas and TODOs?
by Ankur Sinha
<snip>>
> >> 1. https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-
> >> US/Fedora_Draft_Documentation/0.1/html/RPM_Guide/index.html
> >
> > You see the work draft somewhere, it should tell you that this
> isn't
> > finished.
>
> of course, but it still contains maybe useful information (although i
> wouldn't use it much)
Yea, but so will thousands of blog posts on the subject ;)
>
> >> 6. http://rpm5.org/docs/rpm-guide.pdf
> >
> > This is general rpm info - not specific to Fedora.
>
> of course, but still related/useful to packaging imho. (especially,
> because its the most comprehensive document about rpm, i think)
Honestly, one rarely needs this - in all my years as a package
maintainer I may have looked at this maybe 4 times..
>
> <snip>
>
> well ideally, we would just have a few documents with up-to-date
> information, like:
>
> one general, up-to-date document about packaging in fedora, which
> links
> e.g. to http://rpm5.org/docs/rpm-guide.pdf and the language
> specific
> guide.
Yea, but in the case of packaging, the wiki pages are up to date and
pretty much official. If there's something you can't find in
Category:Packaging, it's going to be an extremely rare one off and then
you shoot an e-mail to the devel list.
>
> At least that is my opionion on "great documentation" :) Maybe (i'm
> honestly not sure if i will have time for that) i can help with that
> in the future.
The wiki can be improved, yes - there's so much disorganised
information there that it often takes a while to find things if you
don't know the general region :/
Again, if you have specific ideas to improve things, I can pass them on
to the right people :)
--
Thanks,
Regards,
Ankur Sinha "FranciscoD"
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ankursinha
7 years, 6 months
First Linux User group in Baramati
by Sangram Kakade
hello every, we have started Linux user Group in Baramati for rural
students . we need some Fedora24 DVD's any one post me dvd set
--
Thanks & Regards,
Sangram P. Kakade
Mob.No. 9975159162 / 8796535503
7 years, 6 months
Re: Discussion - issues with Fedora Join -
by toogley
solutions/ideas and TODOs?
Reply-To:
In-Reply-To: <1472487418.16983.38.camel(a)gmail.com>
> - - Maybe an IRC meeting a month just to keep ourselves active wouldn't
> be such a bad idea?
in general i'm a bit sceptical about IRC meetings to a specific time in a
international community, because we have all different time zones.
That means, an IRC meeting at x o'clock is maybe practical for persons living in
timezone Y, but very unpractical to participate in for persons living in
timezone M.
(Suprisingly, the activity on weekends is really low)
And i don't think we want that.
7 years, 6 months
Welcome everyone! I'm Ankur (FranciscoD) - it's a pleasure to meet you!
by Ankur Sinha
Hiya,
I noticed that we've had a few new subscriptions to the the mailing
list recently. Please take this opportunity to tell us a little about
yourselves. I'll start!
I'm Ankur (*waves wildly*), currently in the UK where I'm doing my PhD.
I've been a Fedora community member for quite a while now. I maintain
some packages, test packages from updates-testing and help out in other
areas where I can. Since I've been around for a while, I've made loads
of friends in the community, and even if I don't actively help out a
team or SIG, I'm generally aware of what they're up to and how one can
get started (I have many *many* fedora wiki bookmarks!).
You can learn more about me at my Fedora project user page here:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ankursinha
Please reply to this e-mail and give us a chance to get to know you -
who you are, where you are from, what your interests are, what you do,
what your dog is called ... ;)
We can pick up from there and help you get started in your area of
interest in the community!
--
Thanks,
Regards,
Ankur Sinha "FranciscoD"
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ankursinha
7 years, 7 months
Re: Fedora Join SIG sponsorship request
by Tummala Dhanvi
On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 12:41 AM, Justin W. Flory
<jflory7(a)fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> Hello!
>
> You are receiving this email in regards to your application to become a
> sponsored member of the Fedora Join SIG.
>
> At this time, the Join SIG is not an active body in the Fedora Project. If
> you are seeking assistance with getting involved with the Fedora Project,
> please first consider posting to our mailing list with a brief introduction
> about your interests and where you might want to become involved in Fedora.
> If you are not yet subscribed to our mailing list, you can find a link
> below.
>
>
> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/fedora-join@lists.fedoraproje...
>
> If you have other questions about getting involved or have feedback about
> your own experience in becoming a contributor, you are highly encouraged and
> welcome to share them on that list.
>
> If you were hoping to help constructively shape and work on the on-boarding
> process for new contributors, you can also consider becoming involved with
> the Community Operations (CommOps) team. CommOps is actively working on
> improving and helping simplify the on-boarding process for many different
> teams in Fedora. For more information, please check out these following
> pages.
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/CommOps
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/CommOps/Join
>
> Should you have any other questions or concerns, feel free to post them on
> the Fedora Join mailing list, or alternatively, you can reply to me. Thank
> you for your interest in applying to the SIG!
>
I will post to the fedora-join mailing Justin.
--
Regards
Tummala Dhanvi
https://www.dhanvi.org
"Only thing that can never be 'RE-CYCLED' is 'WASTED TIME' ".
7 years, 7 months
Re: [Community Operations (CommOps)] #80: Create 'wiki-editors' FAS group
by fedora-badges
#80: Create 'wiki-editors' FAS group
--------------------------+---------------------
Reporter: jflory7 | Owner: jflory7
Type: enhancement | Status: closed
Priority: major | Milestone: ASAP
Component: Outreach | Severity: urgent
Resolution: wontfix | Keywords:
--------------------------+---------------------
Changes (by jflory7):
* keywords: nextmeeting =>
* status: accepted => closed
* resolution: => wontfix
Comment:
'''Discussed in [https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-
meeting/2016-08-09/commops.2016-08-09-16.02.html 2016-08-09 meeting].'''
In the meeting, we determined that having the group doesn't make as much
sense as just revising existing on-boarding steps to move away from the
wiki. We've already witnessed a degree of social engineering by spammers
to try to gain access to CLA+1, and as also mentioned, there are
privileges that have a real impact on Fedora's infrastructure too, e.g. a
quota of space in fedorapeople.org, when you have CLA+1.
Further follow-up on this issue can be done in the relevant on-boarding
tickets for each sub-project / team as outlined in #34. The only team
where this would have a more immediate impact could be the Ambassadors,
but this varies mentor to mentor, and is, as of recently, being discussed
in [https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ticket/399 famsco#399].
Closing as wontfix.
--
Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-commops/ticket/80#comment:16>
Community Operations (CommOps) <https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/CommOps>
Community Operations (CommOps) aims to build and improve community infrastructure to better communication across the Project and to help tell the story of Fedora.
7 years, 7 months