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Docs team meeting 20090225 IRC log
by Karsten Wade 25 Feb '09

25 Feb '09

Here in wiki format: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:Docs_IRC_log_20090225 ... and attached as raw text. -- Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Community Gardener http://quaid.fedorapeople.org AD0E0C41

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RPM packages of docs & freeze
by Paul W. Frields 25 Feb '09

25 Feb '09

A couple questions to think about, with regard to RPM packages of documentation: * Does the upcoming feature freeze affect entry of new RPM packages in to the repo for a release? * If so, should we request that FESCo make exceptions for documentation given the requirements of the release cycle? I should probably know the answer to the question #1 off the top of my head, but I don't. I suspect it's "Not unless the package is part of the default comps." -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug

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Docs help requested for Feature Page Summary
by John Poelstra 25 Feb '09

25 Feb '09

Hi Docs People, I'm wondering of there are any people who would be willing to do their word-smithing magic on the text for this page: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/11/FeatureList This page gets a lot of exposure and is read by a lot of different audiences, including the media. I'd like to make sure it is understandable and reads as well as it can. The summary that accompanies each feature name is particularly important. For the most part the summary comes directly from the individual feature page. Thanks, John

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Fedora Ambassadors Join Page
by Angel 25 Feb '09

25 Feb '09

Hi everyone, Before joining and introducing myself, I was exploring our Wiki. Have a look, here, https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Join. I think, someone new on Fedora Project, did this mistakenly. I can see the history. Should I fix this? -- Angel http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Angel 0DF8 3CD4 AFE3 68C6 2CDA 9F17 14B8 1A15 E5F7 73C2 Fedora -- Freedom² and rapid innovation

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Odd double redirect - I'm confused.
by Susan Lauber 23 Feb '09

23 Feb '09

This probably for Ian but I'll share with all... OK I'm confused. I went checking for double redirects from the renaming party (and my renaming of Package Maintainer pages yesterday) And I found one that doesn't make any sense to me - I have looked at history and I cannot even figure out how the two pages got connected in the first place... The Double redirects page https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Special:DoubleRedirects ... This page lists pages which redirect to other redirect pages. Each row contains links to the first and second redirect, as well as the target of the second redirect, which is usually "real" target page, which the first redirect should point to. ... 9. DocsProject/ReleaseNotes/Process (Edit) →‎ Release notes process →‎ Writing for DocBook using the wiki And History of Release notes process shows: # (cur) (last) 12:41, 22 February 2009 Redirect fixer (Talk | contribs) (48 bytes) (DocsProject/Writing Using The Wiki has been moved, it is now a redirect to Writing for DocBook using the wiki) (undo) # (cur) (last) 02:24, 22 February 2009 Laubersm (Talk | contribs) m (DocsProject/ReleaseNotes/Process moved to Release notes process: docs project cleanup) (undo) # (cur) (last) 02:23, 22 February 2009 Laubersm (Talk | contribs) m (7,257 bytes) (add category) (undo) What confuses me is: When and where did ReleaseNotes ever point to Writing Using the Wiki ?!?!? -Susan -- Susan Lauber, (RHCX, RHCA, RHCSS) Lauber System Solutions, Inc. http://www.laubersolutions.com gpg: 15AC F794 A3D9 64D1 D9CE 4C26 EFC3 11C2 BFA1 0974

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Update: PackageMaintainers wiki cleanup update
by Susan Lauber 23 Feb '09

23 Feb '09

On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 5:01 PM, Susan Lauber <laubersm(a)fedoraproject.org> wrote: > > Greetings to the authors/maintainers of Package Maintainer wiki pages, > > I introduced myself last week [1] and since then I have dug into the pages and set up a task table [2] > > I have already added a category to most pages so they can all be found together [3]. > If there are others or if you create a new page just add the string [[Category:Package Maintainers]] to the bottom of the page. > > The next step is renaming so that pages are easier to find in a search. It will also make the category page easier to use. I have started making suggested in the packagemaintainers.psv [4] file in the wikirename.git repo and Update: Pages were moved this past weekend (20090222) I also did a lot of work merging the old PackageMaintainers page into the Category page itself. I think it is still too long but will continue to clean it up this week. If I missed any redirects, please let me know (or just fix them). See https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Package_Maintainers The layout has *old PackageMaintainers info at the top (maintained manually) *Sub Categories (dynamically created list) *Pages in the Category (synamically created list) *Please do NOT include subdirs / in names going forward. *All links to the old page names should redirect but going forward, please try to use the new names. *To add a page to the category add [[Category:Package_Maintainers]] to the bottom of the page. *To link to the category page from within another page use the syntax [[:Category:Package_Maintainers]] (not the extra colon at the beginning) > > ***I encourage others to check the proposed names and offer additional suggestions.*** > > I would like to have this file ready for the wikibot by the end of the week (Feb 7). > Lack of response will be seen as a vote of confidence :) > > Thanks, > Susan > > [1] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-January/msg01545.html > [2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs_tasks_for_Packaging_Guide_and_related_m… > [3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Package_Maintainers > [4] http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/?p=wikirename.git;a=blob_plain;f=packagemai… > with naming instructions at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Help:Wiki_structure > -- Susan Lauber, (RHCX, RHCA, RHCSS) Lauber System Solutions, Inc. http://www.laubersolutions.com gpg: 15AC F794 A3D9 64D1 D9CE 4C26 EFC3 11C2 BFA1 0974

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Docs Project wiki page rename party
by Susan Lauber 23 Feb '09

23 Feb '09

HI all, What: My understanding from the meeting on Wed was that Fri night is a wiki page renaming party for Docs Project. Reason: We are giving up on the wait for wikibot and going ahead and manually moving pages - particularly the process related pages so we can move on to redoing those pages as needed. Where in #fedora-docs When: After Ian "wiki czar" Weller gets home from school and before quaid and the rest of the scale FAD group disburse for dinner (or after they get back but I prefer before midnight east coast time) What to do: 1. In git is a wikirename repo with a docsproject.psv file to use as our guide. URL: http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/?p=wikirename.git;a=blob_plain;f=docsprojec… but you probably want a local copy so if you have not yet gotten it: git clone git://git.fedoraproject.org/git/wikirename.git will work (or even better use ssh://fasname@git.fedorap....) The format of the file is existing name | new name | categories There are about 175 pages to move and categorize. I'll divide it up when I have an idea of how many people are helping. 2. I already checked with quaid (who made most of the changes to that file) and it should be good to use as a guide. BUT everyone can make final adjustments on the fly. For example: a. double check the destination name including case b. where is just says Archive: the rest of the name stays the same as the original c. anything missing (like the ones I added yesterday) means you get to decide yourself 3. Don't forget to add the categories. If there are other categories that should be added, then add them. I made sure that the existing categories are subcategories to Docs Project so you can find most of the here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Docs_Project [I'll go add the archive category there as well - at least for the duration of this task so we can find it.] So who's coming to the party? -Susan -- Susan Lauber, (RHCX, RHCA, RHCSS) Lauber System Solutions, Inc. http://www.laubersolutions.com gpg: 15AC F794 A3D9 64D1 D9CE 4C26 EFC3 11C2 BFA1 0974

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I need an editor!
by Mike McGrath 23 Feb '09

23 Feb '09

Hope this isn't bad form to ask but it is ultimately docs for fedora so I'm asking :) I've been working on some standards documents for Fedora's Infrastructure Team to follow (and hopefully others to adopt as they see fit). I'm finalizing our free software policy and I'd like an editor. Any volunteers? http://infrastructure.fedoraproject.org/csi/free-software-policy/en-US/html… -Mike

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Re:Need Second pair of eyes & have a question
by A. Mani 20 Feb '09

20 Feb '09

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Kirk wrote: > If anyone has the time could you proof these two pages that are for the > F10 User Guide. I've looked at them so much I'm blind, but I > think they're finished. > > https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=User:Kirk202/User_Guide_-_Commu… Some Points: 1. 'Fedora can be used to send electronic mail and communicate in real time with people around the world ' sounds a bit trivial. People using the user guide may not know about 'email clients' or about accessing their mails from the web and mail clients from different locations. 2. There was a mistake in the Kmail table: 'Check Mail in' does not send email. Modified a few other things in the table 3. KwalletManager is not mentioned at all. Best A. Mani -- A. Mani Member, Cal. Math. Soc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkme7vgACgkQunMISzvdfU4USwCfQBnhmFYZ8Bz3hioLi0EnF7Wl tQgAn1zFRntxNHxPSVweF5G5S5o+6UV4 =dcrJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Introduction-- Danny
by Hunter Bukowski 20 Feb '09

20 Feb '09

Hi, I'm Danny, a grad student in psychology in Chicago and have a lot of basic hardware and software experience but Unix and Linux are still a little new to me, plus I'm rusty from disuse. I'm not afraid of a command prompt-- I grew up with DOS. When I have technical problems I am resourceful, patient, analytical and able to fix them or find the help I need online. I have been building my own computers since 2000, and know a little about networking from setting up a home network and working for a telecom company for almost 3 years. I understand electronics fairly well, have excellent written communication and math skills and my father and sister are quality control managers (chief mucky muck bug squashers) so I guess you could say problem-solving is in our genes. And since, in a sense, you are QC too, I believe I'd make an excellent match for your Docs Project. I get real satisfaction in finding the source of a problem and fixing it, whether it be in someone's life (psychology) or their operating system (Fedora Linux). I worked briefly on a project in a technical writing class in the past. Otherwise I have a lot of writing experience (a LOT) in fiction, research paper writing, things like that. I'm a good editor. I'm courteous and extremely respectful toward others. I'm an organizer and go-getter. I like to make an impact and do what needs to be done for progress to be made. All of these things make me an excellent match for your project-- that and the fact that I really want a reason to learn Linux and give back to the Fedora community. I feel easily-accessible, browseable and searchable documentation is critical to making Fedora more user-friendly. GPG: 06E7B936 Fingerprint: /.gnupg/pubring.gpg ------------------------------------ pub 1024D/06E7B936 2009-02-19 Key fingerprint = 30A5 4C4E EC6C 1F1C E83C 35BA D48C F697 06E7 B936 uid Daniel J. Ashcom <the_fine_print(a)hotmail.com> sub 1024g/6994B9A6 2009-02-19 Thanks for your time, Danny _________________________________________________________________ See how Windows Mobile brings your life together—at home, work, or on the go. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/msnnkwxp1020093182mrt/direct/01/

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