I thought that would get your attention.
My posts to cobbler-devel about asking folks to work on Debian to post what they are doing, status, and so forth have not been answered lately, so what we have upstream (as a result of various patches from folks, much appreciated -- I know everyone has limited resources themselves) are in an inconsistent state. I feel bad leading users down a path where they are experimenting with code we know isn't going to do everything they want.
I won't mislead anyone, this is a large effort * Porting all snippets * Making repo/profile associations work * Making import more streamlined, or otherwise unsupport it altogether and provide better instructions * koan --replace-self needs to work on Debian hosts * koan --virt needs to work * koan and cobbler need debian packaging updates for 2.0
If you have interest in seeing Debian working, you need to post up with what you are working on and organize yourselves, or the feature will be culled after 2.0, meanwhile I *will* be updating the Wiki docs to indicate these features are in development and are experimental, not something we suggest people use at this time.
I need to know who's working on what, and when they expect it can be completed, so we can make sure it's all going to be taken care of.
SuSE support is in similar peril, with no import code, no snippets, etc.
--Michael
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 7:49 AM, Michael DeHaanmdehaan@redhat.com wrote:
I thought that would get your attention.
My posts to cobbler-devel about asking folks to work on Debian to post what they are doing, status, and so forth have not been answered lately, so what we have upstream (as a result of various patches from folks, much appreciated -- I know everyone has limited resources themselves) are in an inconsistent state. I feel bad leading users down a path where they are experimenting with code we know isn't going to do everything they want.
I won't mislead anyone, this is a large effort
- Porting all snippets
- Making repo/profile associations work
- Making import more streamlined, or otherwise unsupport it altogether
and provide better instructions
- koan --replace-self needs to work on Debian hosts
- koan --virt needs to work
- koan and cobbler need debian packaging updates for 2.0
If you have interest in seeing Debian working, you need to post up with what you are working on and organize yourselves, or the feature will be culled after 2.0, meanwhile I *will* be updating the Wiki docs to indicate these features are in development and are experimental, not something we suggest people use at this time.
I need to know who's working on what, and when they expect it can be completed, so we can make sure it's all going to be taken care of.
SuSE support is in similar peril, with no import code, no snippets, etc.
--Michael _______________________________________________ cobbler mailing list cobbler@lists.fedorahosted.org https://fedorahosted.org/mailman/listinfo/cobbler
Michael,
While I don't use Debian myself, I am updating the firmware on my HP servers using the trick posted in the wiki which does use the Debian features already in Cobbler.
Should it comes down to removing Debian support, is there any way to keep support for booting HP Smart Start and HP Firmware Update cds?
Dominic
On 08/18/2009 01:49 AM, Dominic LoBue wrote:
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 7:49 AM, Michael DeHaanmdehaan@redhat.com wrote:
I thought that would get your attention.
My posts to cobbler-devel about asking folks to work on Debian to post what they are doing, status, and so forth have not been answered lately, so what we have upstream (as a result of various patches from folks, much appreciated -- I know everyone has limited resources themselves) are in an inconsistent state. I feel bad leading users down a path where they are experimenting with code we know isn't going to do everything they want.
I won't mislead anyone, this is a large effort
- Porting all snippets
- Making repo/profile associations work
- Making import more streamlined, or otherwise unsupport it altogether
and provide better instructions
- koan --replace-self needs to work on Debian hosts
- koan --virt needs to work
- koan and cobbler need debian packaging updates for 2.0
If you have interest in seeing Debian working, you need to post up with what you are working on and organize yourselves, or the feature will be culled after 2.0, meanwhile I *will* be updating the Wiki docs to indicate these features are in development and are experimental, not something we suggest people use at this time.
I need to know who's working on what, and when they expect it can be completed, so we can make sure it's all going to be taken care of.
SuSE support is in similar peril, with no import code, no snippets, etc.
--Michael _______________________________________________ cobbler mailing list cobbler@lists.fedorahosted.org https://fedorahosted.org/mailman/listinfo/cobbler
Michael,
While I don't use Debian myself, I am updating the firmware on my HP servers using the trick posted in the wiki which does use the Debian features already in Cobbler.
Should it comes down to removing Debian support, is there any way to keep support for booting HP Smart Start and HP Firmware Update cds?
Dominic _______________________________________________ cobbler mailing list cobbler@lists.fedorahosted.org https://fedorahosted.org/mailman/listinfo/cobbler
Hmm, good point.
Ideally you should be able to feed all the required --kopts in and have things work. (However, we would still be adding extra options that would not be used, which may run us up against kernel options limits -- not so good!)
Another alternative is for us to keep "--breed" and denote that it /only/ works for PXE, in which case we only remove import support for other distributions, repo support, and so forth. This is actually a change that can be implemented /now/ with little affect on 2.0, and would end the questions of "why does this not completely work" and so forth for the 2.X branch.
This may be more fair because it leaves things that are functional functional and removes things that are not.
A better solution is for folks interested in this feature to complete it, but if that's not possible, I understand.
--Michael
cobbler@lists.fedorahosted.org