Karsten Wade <kwade <at> redhat.com> writes:
You might think it is preferable to use what has been invented at
Red
Hat, where the resources exist for gcj work. It is not preferable. We
all want things to be interoperable and open. Knowing that we can swap
virtual machines means people get to make their own choice about free
notJavaVMs.
Most of the free runtimes now largely pool together in the development of the
class library by contributing to GNU Classpath, a free as in 'free software'
implementation of the core java class libraries. You are not tied to the mercy
of a single project: there is a whole ecosystem of runtimes targetting different
needs, all willing to help their users, in my experience.
For the same reason, perhaps we can (at least) share testing data
and
results with Debian people tackling the same issues. It would _rock_ if
we could get FOP to do everything well in all free scenarios.
Russ Burton, Arnaud Vandyck & Danniel Bonniot are the debian people that are
actively using or packaging fop on free runtimes there. I will contact them.
Perhaps an informal sub-committee? Just people interested in the
topic,
keep part of the conversation, and volunteer.
Sounds good to me.
What's next?
Ideas:
* Get a new sub-project into CVS (fedora-docs/toolchain? or somesuch
name). Tammy, Mark, and I can commit into this for now, acting as
conduits for changes from the rest of the project.
* We need
** Someone from kaffe
Count me in.
** Someone from gcj
Mark Wielaard could probably recommend someone.
** A willing FOP expert (either one who knows the code and use, or
a
coder and an expert user)
I'll get in touch with FOP developers.
** A Debian liaison
I'll try to find someone from Debian's Java side to participate.
Just some ideas. I really do mean, "What's next?"
I'd also recommend getting in touch with the Java side of fedora, to see what
their FOP packaging plans and requirements are. I believe that Thomas
Fitzsimmons and Fernando Nasser are working on making JPackage work with gcj,
they may be able to comment.
cheers,
dalibor topic