On Sun, 2004-08-01 at 18:31, Karsten Wade wrote:
Did you mean to take this off-list?
No, sorry, I just hit return.
I can't help it if someone gets pissed off; to be honest, I'm
not in
much of a better situation -- I just write stuff for this project, and I
currently can't write to the Fedora CVS. Still, I'd rather have a
number of items in the queue for when CVS shows up, than have a bunch of
whining in the queue.
This is my style, so you can use it or abuse it: I'd rather do
everything within my power _first_ instead of waiting for Mom to fix it
all for me.
I'm trying to point out ways for improvement Karsten.
I dont' see it as waiting for mom to fix anything.
Though if you *are* the only RH input, and you don't have site access,
why are we here?
Waiting for Tammy's child to leave home?
> Where's the bugzilla page | instructions whatever?
> More hurdles Karsten?
In the middle of the page at
http://fedora.redhat.com/projects/docs/ it
has always said the following; it can't be much clearer than this:
My bad. I'd not read it|taken it in| seen bugfixes on the horizon...
Though how the heck can we fix 'em if we can't commit?
More catch 22? / Join the queue?
Bugzilla is the tool for reporting problems and requesting features with
any aspect of Fedora. This is no more a hurdle for Fedora docs project
than it is for Fedora Core.
Two wheels is a hurdle if you've never ridden a
bike.
You may be familiar, I'm not.
Ultimately, it's a better-than-nothing
project management tool for maintainers. Much easier to do a bugzilla
search for all open bugs than comb through this mailing list looking for
someone's suggested fix.
> > When CVS opens for us, we will have a lot of work to do, but it will be
> > good work, instead of starting from scratch.
> No note of this as an interim on the docs project page?
> Its dead meat as far as a project page goes.
> Gathering dust.
I don't have access to update that page. If I were to suddenly have
that access tomorrow, I still don't know exactly what needs to be
updated on that page. If every message on this list reporting what
needs to be changed was a bugzilla report, we'd be much further ahead
than we are now.
OK. Bugs and bare/unchanging web pages are two different things IMHO.
http://fedora.redhat.com/about/leadership.html
"Leadership
Leadership in the Fedora Project will be post-facto recognition of
acting leaders, not appointment of people to start acting as leaders
after appointment. The leaders that we will recognize
Who's 'we' if not RH? => some manner of project lead to make that
decision? Or is this just another rh catch 22?
So ... there's this thread I started with the subject "what
is ready for
fedora.redhat.com." I think we should use that thread to gain consensus
about what changes we think should take place on the two docs pages,
then file a bugzilla report detailing the changes. Would you like to
contribute your ideas to that thread, maybe even try out the bug
reporting?
If that's the definition of a bug, I'll try it; but I'm losing hope.
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