On 10 August 2015 at 13:29, Stephen Gallagher <sgallagh(a)redhat.com> wrote:
On Mon, 2015-08-10 at 15:19 -0400, Simo Sorce wrote:
> On Mon, 2015-08-10 at 14:46 -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
> > Thoughts? I'd like to put this plan in place well in
advance of
> > Beta so
> > that we can validate it with early test composes (and not risk
> > slippage).
>
> So the DVD just become a netinstall++ ?
Well, no. The DVD would essentially become "Here's the stuff we think
you need" rather than "Here's all the stuff somebody might ever need".
Never ever ever say "we think you need" on a release for system
administrators. You have just summoned the demons of "You don't know
what I need to get work done.." and "Does anyone really need anything
other than bash and maybe dnf?" :).
So I know that several sites with locked down networks have been using
the server dvd as the replacement for garbage collection DVD's of old
releases because it did have those things. I don't know how many of
those people there are.. but I expect some amount of swearing and
demonizing from them as it means a new workflow they need (or a
different OS).
That said, I am not against lowering the size of the DVD down to a
'this is what we want to call Server OS' amount
That's different from the netinstall, which really can install
anything
and everything that exists in the repositories.
>
> I am not against it, just want to understand what will be left back.
> Will there be packages enough to have a GUI for example ? Or will
> they
> all be "available from the network" ?
>
Well, we don't have a GUI now, excepting Cockpit (which would
absolutely remain part of the default set included on the DVD). If you
want a GUI, you need to install it from the network, either by using
the netinstall media, adding the Everything repo in Anaconda or else
adding the GUI packages post-install.
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