server August 2015

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network time default, f23
by Chris Murphy 01 Sep '15

01 Sep '15

Short version: network time is not enabled in a default installation of Fedora 23 Server, using Fedora-Server-netinst-i386-23_Beta_TC1.iso. - Is this intended? - What is the user expected to do? It's not obvious. Long version: chrony is not installed, meanwhile it's installed and the default on workstation. Right off the bat it's confusing that server and workstation will use different services for time synchronization. ntp and ntpdate are installed, but both are disabled, and I don't even know what ntpdate is. systemd-timedated.service is masked. systemd-timesyncd.service is disabled. dbus-org.freedesktop.timedate1.service is enabled, which apparently just points to timedatex.service Based on searching the journal, nothing is looking out to an ntp server to set the date and time correctly. If I set the hardware clock wrong (by a year) in firmware setup, it never gets corrected. # timedatectl Local time: Fri 2013-08-30 23:32:34 MDT Universal time: Sat 2013-08-31 05:32:34 UTC RTC time: Sat 2013-08-31 05:32:34 Time zone: America/Denver (MDT, -0600) Network time on: no NTP synchronized: no RTC in local TZ: no # systemctl enable ntpd # systemctl start ntpd Fixes this, but it seems like something should be enabled by default. -- Chris Murphy

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Update on getfedora.org/server
by Máirín Duffy 25 Aug '15

25 Aug '15

Hi, I pushed the text changes we discussed at today's meeting to the f23-alpha branch of fedora-web: https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/fedora-web.git/commit/?h=f23-alpha&id=c9e… I also emailed John Unland regarding the proposed edit to his quote for a bit more clarity around docker and roles. ~m

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Is the text on for the server product on getfedora.org OK?
by Ankur Sinha 25 Aug '15

25 Aug '15

Hiya! We were recently discussing what marketing collateral we should have for the different products[1]. To paraphrase the rather long thread, the design and marketing teams have suggested that we have a timeless flyer for each product. ("Timeless" implying that the flyer will not be release specific and will not be updated per release). As part of this, we'd like the product WGs to please go over the text on getfedora.org and see if the text is OK or if they'd like to update it before F23. The idea here is to keep the text on the websites and the flyers in sync for a better, more uniform marketing system. Could this rather tiny task please be put on the WG's agenda? I'll file trac tickets if required :) [1] https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/marketing/2015-July/0177 45.html [2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ankursinha/Marketing_Collateral _Ideas#Plan.3F -- Thanks, Regards, Ankur Sinha "FranciscoD" http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ankursinha

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Server SIG Weekly Meeting Minutes (2015-08-25)
by Stephen Gallagher 25 Aug '15

25 Aug '15

========================================================= #fedora-meeting-1: Server SIG Weekly Meeting (2015-08-25) ========================================================= Meeting started by sgallagh at 15:02:06 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2015-08-25/serversig. 2015-08-25-15.02.log.html . Meeting summary --------------- * roll call (sgallagh, 15:02:06) * Agenda (sgallagh, 15:05:09) * Agenda Item: Timeless Flyer (sgallagh, 15:05:22) * Timeless Flyer (sgallagh, 15:07:04) * drop OpenLMI from getfedora.org/server; upstream on life-support (mizmo, 15:10:15) * add PostgreSQL database role to getfedora.org/server (mizmo, 15:13:08) * postgresql has no decent web admin panel but has pgadmin3 fat client which is good, needs appstream data + promotion in workstation (mizmo, 15:22:30) * for postgresql: "Database Services / Fedora Server brings with it an enterprise-class, scalable database server powered by the open-source PostgreSQL project" (mizmo, 15:25:41) * docker isn't a role, so remove reference to docker role in quote (mizmo, 15:28:02) * contact junland for quote revision: ""Bringing up Docker containers in Fedora Server was simple and fast to install using Cockpit. This makes a great testbed..." (mizmo, 15:30:37) * update freeipa infos: "Complete Enterprise Domain Solution / Level up your Linux network with advanced identity management, DNS, certificate services, Windows(TM) domain integration throughout your environment with FreeIPA, the engine that drives Fedora Server's Domain Controller role." (mizmo, 15:36:04) * remove "rolekit" from roles header, but leave rolekit reference in paragraph intact (mizmo, 15:36:30) * change Cockpit header to read "Easy Administration" (mizmo, 15:37:58) * in cockpit paragraph, s/easily/simply (mizmo, 15:38:49) * "Fedora Server is a short-lifecycle server operating system that enables seasoned system administrators experienced with any OS to make use of the very latest server-based technologies available in the open source community." (mizmo, 16:02:49) * "Fedora Server is a short-lifecycle, community-supported server operating system that enables seasoned system administrators experienced with any OS to make use of the very latest server-based technologies available in the open source community." (mizmo, 16:03:40) * for support point folks to #fedora-server / freenode and server(a)lists.fpo (mizmo, 16:05:38) * LINK: http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/22/html/System_Administr ators_Guide/index.html (linux-modder, 16:06:53) * no docs available for rolekit or cockpit (mizmo, 16:10:37) * ask.fpo for support too (mizmo, 16:11:03) Meeting ended at 16:12:41 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * mizmo (180) * sgallagh (128) * danofsatx (26) * linux-modder (13) * zodbot (10) * jsmith (9) * adamw (8) * nirik (7) * stefw (1) * mitr (0) * tuanta (0) * simo (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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Rolekit Weekly Meeting Minutes (2015-08-25)
by Stephen Gallagher 25 Aug '15

25 Aug '15

==================================== #fedora-server: rolekit (2015-08-25) ==================================== Meeting started by sgallagh at 13:00:23 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-server/2015-08-25/rolekitweekly .2015-08-25-13.00.log.html . Meeting summary --------------- * init process (sgallagh, 13:00:23) * gdbus porting efforts (sgallagh, 13:02:27) * LINK: http://traitlets.readthedocs.org/en/latest/ (sgallagh, 13:13:46) * twoerner is making progress on gdbus. (sgallagh, 13:23:09) * We need to write decorators/metaclasses to handle introspection data (sgallagh, 13:23:25) * Also investigate traitlets as an option for managing properties on DBUS objects (sgallagh, 13:23:44) * nilsph update (sgallagh, 13:28:33) * nilsph sent a few minor cleanup patches to Review Board (sgallagh, 13:28:54) * sgallagh update (sgallagh, 13:29:06) * Updated the kickstart patch with review comments; awaiting review (sgallagh, 13:29:21) * Working on nulecule app (sgallagh, 13:29:50) * deferring nulecule-related work to deliver in Fedora 24 Alpha. Won't be stable in time for F23 Beta. (sgallagh, 13:43:57) * Open Floor (sgallagh, 13:44:01) Meeting ended at 13:54:00 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * sgallagh (72) * nilsph (42) * twoerner (25) * zodbot (4) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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Agenda for weekly meeting (2015-08-25)
by Stephen Gallagher 25 Aug '15

25 Aug '15

I only have one item for the agenda this week: Marketing has requested our input on their "timeless flyer". We should discuss what we want there.

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Change Proposal to drop i686 in Fedora 24
by Stephen Gallagher 19 Aug '15

19 Aug '15

FYI, I have started the Change process for Fedora 24: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Server_Drop_i686

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Server SIG Weekly Meeting Minutes (2015-08-18)
by Stephen Gallagher 18 Aug '15

18 Aug '15

========================================================= #fedora-meeting-1: Server SIG Weekly Meeting (2015-08-18) ========================================================= Meeting started by sgallagh at 14:59:51 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2015-08-18/serversig. 2015-08-18-14.59.log.html . Meeting summary --------------- * roll call (sgallagh, 14:59:52) * Agenda (sgallagh, 15:06:03) * Agenda Item: i686 Media (sgallagh, 15:06:04) * Agenda Item: Flock (sgallagh, 15:06:04) * i686 Media (sgallagh, 15:08:14) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1469 (sgallagh, 15:08:22) * AGREED: Starting with Fedora 24, Fedora Server Edition will not ship or block on any media that installs on an i686-only system as a primary architecture. (+5, 0, -0) (sgallagh, 15:38:22) * Flock (sgallagh, 15:38:36) * LINK: https://sgallagh.fedorapeople.org/server-pastpresentfuture.odp (sgallagh, 15:43:45) * Open Floor (sgallagh, 15:51:48) Meeting ended at 15:55:12 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * sgallagh (79) * simo (32) * adamw (31) * mitr (17) * dgilmore (14) * nirik (13) * zodbot (6) * tuanta (3) * stefw (1) * danofsatx (0) * mizmo (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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Rescheduling this weeks Blocker review meeting
by Mike Ruckman 18 Aug '15

18 Aug '15

Hey all, It seems the lack of sleep from Flock caught up with me Sunday night and I didn't wake up in time to run the blocker review scheduled for Monday morning. We currently have 6/7 proposed blockers for Beta and Final, so I think it will still be good to have a Blocker review this week. Does this Thursday (2015-08-20) at 16:00 UTC work for people? If there's a better time, please respond to the test list and we can find a better window to run the review. Thanks! Mike Ruckman

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Rolekit Weekly Meeting Minutes (2015-08-18)
by Stephen Gallagher 18 Aug '15

18 Aug '15

==================================== #fedora-server: rolekit (2015-08-18) ==================================== Meeting started by sgallagh at 13:00:03 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-server/2015-08-18/rolekitweekly .2015-08-18-13.00.log.html . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll Call (sgallagh, 13:00:03) * Status Update (sgallagh, 13:03:45) * sgallagh gave a talk on Fedora Server and a hackfest on rolekit at the Flock conference. (sgallagh, 13:05:43) * twoerner researched DBUS backends some more (sgallagh, 13:06:47) * nilsph submitted several bugfixes for review (sgallagh, 13:07:33) * ACTION: sgallagh to perform code reviews today and tomorrow (sgallagh, 13:07:42) * DBUS Implementations (sgallagh, 13:11:01) * We have three realistic options: 1) gdbus, 2) PyQT5, 3) Fork and maintain python-dbus with property patches (sgallagh, 13:11:29) * AGREED: Forking python-dbus is our option of last-resort (sgallagh, 13:12:36) * We will aim to add metaclass magic to python-slip-dbus (sgallagh, 13:24:15) * LINK: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=656325 (sgallagh , 13:39:40) * AGREED: The plan of record is to move to gdbus and implement helpers as soon as the blocker bug is resolved. (sgallagh, 13:47:49) * Triage (sgallagh, 13:49:09) * LINK: https://github.com/libre-server/rolekit/issues?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aiss ue+no%3Amilestone (sgallagh, 13:49:13) * New role: SSL VPN server - https://github.com/libre-server/rolekit/issues/32 (sgallagh, 13:50:16) * Setting help-wanted and assigning to sgallagh (sgallagh, 13:52:01) * There should be a way to drop autogenerated secrets stored in rolekit - https://github.com/libre-server/rolekit/issues/33 (sgallagh, 13:53:41) * Milestone: F23 Beta, Assignee: twoerner, non-blocking (sgallagh, 14:09:42) * Man pages still reference the old website - https://github.com/libre-server/rolekit/issues/34 (sgallagh, 14:09:49) * Milestone: F23 Beta, Assignee: nilsph, non-blocking (sgallagh, 14:11:14) * Anything else referencing Fedora Hosted should be replaced (sgallagh, 14:12:39) * Convert Async Code to Python 3.4 Style - https://github.com/libre-server/rolekit/issues/35 (sgallagh, 14:12:59) * Help wanted (sgallagh, 14:14:50) * Simplify the dbus property method creation - https://github.com/libre-server/rolekit/issues/36 (sgallagh, 14:15:54) * LINK: https://github.com/libre-server/rolekit/releases (nilsph, 14:20:00) * Help wanted (sgallagh, 14:23:22) * Open Floor (sgallagh, 14:25:03) * LINK: https://github.com/libre-server/rolekit/issues/17 (alxgrtnstrngl, 14:26:48) * LINK: https://github.com/alxgrtnstrngl (alxgrtnstrngl, 14:28:51) Meeting ended at 14:40:31 UTC. Action Items ------------ * sgallagh to perform code reviews today and tomorrow Action Items, by person ----------------------- * sgallagh * sgallagh to perform code reviews today and tomorrow * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * sgallagh (160) * nilsph (99) * twoerner (67) * alxgrtnstrngl (14) * zodbot (6) * nphilipp (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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