server June 2023

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Could we drop Active Directory requirements from Fedora release criteria?
by Adam Williamson 24 Jul '23

24 Jul '23

Hi folks! I want to talk about the Active Directory requirements in the release criteria. Since Fedora Server was created, we've had this in the criteria: "It must be possible to join the system to a FreeIPA or Active Directory domain at install time and post-install, and the system must respect the identity, authentication and access control configuration provided by the domain." ...plus various further requirements at Beta and Final. For FreeIPA we have this testing entirely automated, it's no problem at all. For Active Directory we...don't. At every release point this does not get tested until very late. Often Stephen Gallagher has to test it manually at the very last minute, which is an unfair burden on him. When we *do* find problems, there is a mad scramble to fix them or at least find workarounds, because we find them way too late. We've looked into automating it and still kinda intend to do so, but it's not really simple. There's a legal side to it - it's not clear what the licensing requirements involved would be - and a technical side to it - we'd need a way to reliably and quite quickly deploy an AD domain controller using openQA automation, which is not a trivial job. When I estimate the time that's going to take and consider what *else* I (or anyone else) could do with that time, I'm not certain that "automating AD testing" is the best use of it. To me it doesn't feel like a really key feature of Fedora to the point that would justify the work involved, or justify continuing to throw Stephen and others under the last-minute-manual-testing bus. But I'm not sure! What do others think? Do you use the AD client support of Fedora Server? Do you think it's a key feature that we should keep as a release-blocking requirement, or no? Thanks! -- Adam Williamson (he/him/his) Fedora QA Fedora Chat: @adamwill:fedora.im | Mastodon: @adamw@fosstodon.org https://www.happyassassin.net

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Agenda Items on 2023-05-17 17:00 ==UTC== meeting
by Peter Boy 19 Jul '23

19 Jul '23

The upcoming meeting will be held on =========================================================== Fedora Server IRC meeting Wednesday, Mai 17 17:00 ==UTC== irc.libera.chat #fedora-meeting =========================================================== Please, check your local time using date -d '2023-05-17 17:00UTC' ==== Agenda ==== #link https://pagure.io/fedora-server/report/Meeting To be able to discuss all topics on the agenda and to prevent us from repeatedly putting off topics that have not been dealt with, we should set time limits for the individual items on the agenda. If we need more time, we should continue on the mailing list. 1. === Follow up actions === 5 mins at max 2. === Using Ansible to install and configure Wildfly === 15 mins max #link https://pagure.io/fedora-server/issue/60 Latest post: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/server@lists.fedoraproject.or… https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/server@lists.fedoraproject.or… We have a public test server (sisyphos.resdigita.eu) with a running Wildfly and should discuss jow we want to proceed. 3. === F39 Work Project: Fedora Server on SBC === 30 mins mas #link https://pagure.io/fedora-server/issue/108 Goal: We should discuss how to proceed and make the planning more concrete.d 4. === Status of Server documentation ===. 15 mins max #link https://pagure.io/fedora-server/issue/94 #link https://pagure.io/fedora-server/issue/100 #link https://pagure.io/fedora-server/issue/105 And additionally we have to docs work in progress: File sharing with NFS – Installation #link https://docs.stg.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-server/services/filesharing… I need help here. I can't get NFS working. Setting up a basic web server #link https://docs.stg.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-server/services/httpd-basic… There is obviously a bug in the ssl package configuration file. I need help to confirm the bug and the work around. 5. === Open floor === For any additions or changes, please reply to this email. For an overview about current tasks look at: https://pagure.io/fedora-server/boards/Works%20in%20progress -- Peter Boy https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Pboy PBoy(a)fedoraproject.org Timezone: CET (UTC+1) / CEST /UTC+2) Fedora Server Edition Working Group member Fedora Docs team contributor and board member Java developer and enthusiast

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Short info about our last IRC meeting
by Peter Boy 05 Jul '23

05 Jul '23

Again, for everyone's convenience, a brief summary of our IRC meeting right here. For greater details see meetbot == Summary: == https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2023-06-07/fedora-server.2… == Full log: == https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2023-06-07/fedora-server.2… == Essentials == ==== Flock 2023 ==== Date: Aug. 2 -4 in Cork Ireland We will discuss a contribution and who plans to attend the event in person. ==== F39 Work Project: Fedora Server on (ARM) SBC ==== We agreed upon publishing a reference list according to the plan in issue -108. W’ll collect what models are available in Server WG. ==== F39/40 Work Project: Fedora Server in a virtualized runtime environment ==== We agreed to perform the community survey as proposed in #110 . Peter -- Peter Boy https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Pboy PBoy(a)fedoraproject.org Timezone: CET (UTC+1) / CEST /UTC+2) Fedora Server Edition Working Group member Fedora Docs team contributor and board member Java developer and enthusiast

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Recap of our last IRC meeting
by Emmanuel Seyman 22 Jun '23

22 Jun '23

Today's meeting was short, with only two people in the discussion. Meetbot has the gory details: Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2023-06-21/fedora-server.2… Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2023-06-21/fedora-server.2… Emmanuel

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Fedora Server WG
by pboy＠fedoraproject.org 20 Jun '23

20 Jun '23

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Fedora Server WG on 2023-06-21 from 17:00:00 to 18:00:00 UTC At fedora-meeting(a)irc.libera.chat The meeting will be about: Standing meeting of the Fedora Server Edition Working Group. More information available at: [https://pagure.io/fedora-server/report/Meeting](https://pagure.io/fedora-se… Source: https://calendar.fedoraproject.org//meeting/10517/

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Phoronix benchmarking - Open Source test suite
by John W. Himpel 12 Jun '23

12 Jun '23

The types of benchmarks that are available in this test suite are listed here: https://openbenchmarking.org/suites You can pick and choose which ones you wish to run. General info on the test suite and it's capabilities are found here: https://www.phoronix-test-suite.com/ Download instructions are found here: https://www.phoronix-test-suite.com/?k=downloads A sample article comparing RPi 400 to Orange Pi 5 can be found here: https://www.phoronix.com/review/orange-pi-5 While many of the tests referenced in the article apply mainly to desktop performance, the database, compilation, web server, openSSL etc should be applicable for servers. John

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Re: Plan / proposal: enable openQA update testing and potentially gating on Rawhide updates
by Adam Williamson 10 Jun '23

10 Jun '23

On Thu, 2022-06-09 at 12:48 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > Hi folks! > > More significantly, I'd also propose that we turn on gating on openQA > results for Rawhide updates. This would mean Rawhide updates would be > held from going 'stable' (and included in the next compose) until the > gating openQA tests had run and passed. We may want to do this a bit > after turning on the tests; perhaps Fedora 37 branch point would be a > natural time to do it. Hi again folks! A quick update here. Now the Rawhide update testing has been running in production for over a year - and Kevin and I have been "shadow gating" Rawhide for several months, untagging updates where openQA tests indicate genuine bugs - I think it's time to go ahead and enable gating for Rawhide updates. I've worked to make sure the tests are reliable and failures are promptly investigated, and that Bodhi provides accurate information on test and gating status. I've proposed this as a FESCo ticket just to get some visibility and sign-off on the idea: https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/3011 thanks everyone! -- Adam Williamson (he/him/his) Fedora QA Fedora Chat: @adamwill:fedora.im | Mastodon: @adamw@fosstodon.org https://www.happyassassin.net

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Work Project: F39 Story – Fedora Server on SBC
by Peter Boy 07 Jun '23

07 Jun '23

Folks, as discussed on our last meeting I put a first draft on hacked.io https://hackmd.io/7saRpaD_RvGaw1FB3La01Q?both It’s a first draft and not complete yet, of course. When logged in to hackmd.io you can comment and edit the text. Let’s discuss it on our next meeting. And of course, any comment here on our mailing list is welcome! -- Peter Boy https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Pboy PBoy(a)fedoraproject.org Timezone: CET (UTC+1) / CEST /UTC+2) Fedora Server Edition Working Group member Fedora Docs team contributor and board member Java developer and enthusiast

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Re: Work Project: F39 Story – Fedora Server on SBC
by Peter Boy 07 Jun '23

07 Jun '23

> Am 05.06.2023 um 21:08 schrieb J Beard <jas_beard(a)hotmail.com>: > > Seems like a lot of us use Pi's. I have 1 that runs my GitLab and another 1 is my util server. I just grabbed a pi 4 4g and currently deciding on its use. > Thanks, > Jason Given the current price tag of that device (at least in Germany) you must be a rich man. :-) Sorry, really OT -- -- Peter Boy https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Pboy PBoy(a)fedoraproject.org Timezone: CET (UTC+1) / CEST /UTC+2) Fedora Server Edition Working Group member Fedora Docs team contributor and board member Java developer and enthusiast

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Proposal to ask users about their experiences with VPS
by Peter Boy 07 Jun '23

07 Jun '23

Folks, We decided for „Fedora Server in a virtualized runtime environment“ as our second priority work project. As a first step I consider to send a mail to user list and to "Ask Fedora“ and probably discussion #server-wg to collect experiences with this. Maybe, a mail like: > - - - - - - - - - - - < Subj.: Who has experience with Fedora as VPS at a hosting provider? Text Body: The Server WG is looking for users who run or have run Fedora, especially Fedora Server, as a virtual private server (VPS/VDS) with hosting providers such as Contabo, netcup VPS, or AWS (Lightsail) and others. We are interested in providing/accepting custom images for installation as well as Fedora offerings by the host provider (Completeness, up-to-dateness). Would you share with us your experiences? How can we make it easier? What were / are you missing in Fedora? Please, reply to this mail or share your knowledge in the server-wg channel https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/tags/c/project/7/server-wg > - - - - - - - - - - - < Any ideas? Comments? Better ideas? Better wording? Objections? What are the best locations to send such a message to? -- Peter Boy https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Pboy PBoy(a)fedoraproject.org Timezone: CET (UTC+1) / CEST /UTC+2) Fedora Server Edition Working Group member Fedora Docs team contributor and board member Java developer and enthusiast

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