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On 11/19/2013 10:36 AM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
On 11/19/2013 03:12 PM, Simo Sorce wrote:
> Configuration and management tools mostly.
What's the purpose with this effort and process then if there will
be no change other then giving people the fake notion that they
matter and this actually will change anything ?
This response isn't terribly helpful. There are changes coming. At the
absolute minimum, we've been making good headway at agreeing on how to
integrate roles and services better so that they are easier to use and
demonstrate more obvious value.
Why dont those that are going to be writing those tools simply do
that, package it be done with this.
We intend for them to do just that. A big part of this effort is
building up the guidelines they would need to follow in order to
understand what they need to do to get there. It's also setting the
constraints on what users see (i.e. by default they may be restricted
to seeing only those server roles that we have vetted).
I don't think we need to completely block off our users' ability to do
the things they do today, but we add value for them if we can provide
a set of featured options that work well with less chance of it
breaking on them.
What's the purpose of wasting people time with a process
trying to be something it's not?
Could you describe in detail what you think it's "trying to be" vs.
"is"? I suspect you may just have a different understanding of those
two terms than we do.
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