On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 1:26 PM, Simo Sorce <simo(a)redhat.com> wrote:
What you say is not at all w/o merit, but I do not think it is the
goal
of the Server WG. Integrating applications is easier said than done, and
takes a lot of time, and can't be done in isolation.
I think we should definitely look at the big picture, and do the best we
can to provide defaults, configurations or guides, to make as many
components as possible play together. But it is not our core mission to
go and modify single components. I think our mission is more to interact
with upstream and tell them what we think would greatly improve the
situation for us and encourage them to provide those changes.
I'm leaning towards the view that "upstream first" doesn't work well
when trying to integrate the high number of individual components that
we are now facing, and especially the degenerate version "upstream
only" really doesn't work.
I think what we want to do primarily though is build a foundation
for
all the interesting projects to run on. Provide the best possible,
solid, core OS, people can depend on, where changes are pondered not
only against the benefit they can bring to new admins but also how
disruptive they would be to developers and existing admins. Our duty is
to provide excellent transition tools for those times when disruptive
change is necessary w/o having the ecosystem suffer for multiple
releases.
Agreed completely.
Mirek