#fedora-meeting: Infrastructure (2013-07-25)
Meeting started by nirik at 19:00:09 UTC. The full logs are available at
* welcome y'all (nirik, 19:00:09)
* New folks introductions and Apprentice tasks (nirik, 19:03:46)
* Applications status / discussion (nirik, 19:08:40)
* LINK: https://apps.stg.fedoraproject.org/badges/
* badges moving forward fine, on track to deploy before flock (nirik,
* mirrormanager updated this week, still more work to do on it.
* Sysadmin status / discussion (nirik, 19:14:19)
* kevin on site in phx2 next mon/tue/wed. (nirik, 19:17:24)
* outage next tuesday at 21UTC (nirik, 19:17:31)
* Upcoming Tasks/Items (nirik, 19:27:05)
* LINK: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/list/infrastructure/
* Open Floor (nirik, 19:27:58)
Meeting ended at 19:31:15 UTC.
Action Items, by person
People Present (lines said)
* nirik (74)
* pingou (15)
* smooge (14)
* oddshocks (12)
* tdk3fe (11)
* rhaen (7)
* abadger1999 (6)
* zodbot (4)
* samkottler (2)
* lmacken (2)
* dgilmore (2)
* ianweller (1)
* mitzie_ (1)
* tflink (1)
* cyberworm541 (1)
* threebean (0)
* ricky (0)
* mdomsch (0)
* CodeBlock (0)
19:00:09 <nirik> #startmeeting Infrastructure (2013-07-25)
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19:00:09 <nirik> #meetingname infrastructure
19:00:09 <nirik> #topic welcome y'all
19:00:09 <nirik> #chair smooge CodeBlock ricky nirik abadger1999 lmacken dgilmore
19:00:09 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'infrastructure'
19:00:09 <zodbot> Current chairs: CodeBlock abadger1999 dgilmore lmacken mdomsch
nirik ricky smooge threebean
19:01:10 <nirik> anyone around for an infra meeting? :)
19:01:15 * rhaen
19:01:17 * pingou
19:01:31 * oddshocks
19:01:34 <tdk3fe> yup
19:01:51 * nirik will wait another min or two for folks to wander in
19:02:26 <dgilmore> hey
19:02:34 * ianweller is here but is actively doing something else
19:03:06 <smooge> here''
19:03:38 <nirik> ok, lets go ahead and get started then I guess...
19:03:46 <nirik> #topic New folks introductions and Apprentice tasks
19:03:52 * tflink is lurking
19:03:53 * cyberworm541 is here!!!!
19:03:58 <nirik> any new folks like to introduce themselves? or apprentices with
questions or issues?
19:04:14 * rhaen has question/remark to a ticket.
19:04:24 <nirik> rhaen: fire away.
19:04:47 <rhaen> I am working on the nagios ticket, however I am missing some
19:04:54 <rhaen> what's the best place/person to ask?
19:05:24 <rhaen> like email alerting.
19:05:25 <nirik> rhaen: best is likely #fedora-admin or #fedora-noc... just ask and
if folks can answer they will chime in. ;)
19:05:36 <rhaen> k. - Question finished.
19:05:37 <nirik> I'd be happy to work with you on it after the meeting. ;)
19:05:45 <rhaen> cool!
19:05:46 <tdk3fe> I guess my only question is how to move from the apprentice group
to actually doing something :)
19:05:52 * samkottler is here
19:06:05 <nirik> tdk3fe: thats often the hard step for sure. ;(
19:06:06 <tdk3fe> I commented on a ticket under the 'easyfix' category but
haven't gotten a response
19:06:14 <nirik> tdk3fe: which ticket?
19:06:20 <tdk3fe> 3094
19:06:46 <nirik> ah yeah, I asked abadger1999 to look at replying to you this
morning... he's just not had a chance yet.
19:06:52 <tdk3fe> Gotcha
19:06:53 <nirik> I can't recall the details of what we needed there.
19:07:04 <abadger1999> hola
19:07:08 <nirik> but hopefully he can help you out. or I can try and get back up to
speed on it.
19:07:13 <nirik> hey abadger1999
19:07:17 <tdk3fe> Well I understand the concern about just letting new people on the
system to "contribute" so i'll continue to hang around and bug folks ;)
19:07:45 <nirik> tdk3fe: please do. It's often a good way to get involved to
watch our irc channels and chime in with questions or offer to help...
19:08:16 <tdk3fe> nirik: that was my only question today so if somebody else wants
to go ahead feel free
19:08:33 <nirik> ok, no worries. Hopefully we can get you info before too long. ;)
19:08:40 <nirik> #topic Applications status / discussion
19:08:49 <nirik> any application news this week or upcoming?
19:09:06 <lmacken> new badge art has been deployed!
19:09:13 <lmacken> https://apps.stg.fedoraproject.org/badges/
19:09:21 <nirik> cool!
19:09:23 <pingou> oh yeah, mizmo did some awesome work !
19:09:34 <oddshocks> Yep! And we are aware that they are stretcheed on the badge
19:09:34 <abadger1999> tdk3fe: I'll see if that has actually been completed in
pkgdb's repo or not and post a pointer to the current code.
19:09:35 <samkottler> that looks great
19:09:50 <nirik> yeah, very nice!
19:10:02 <oddshocks> I will be adding new, larger, 256px PNGs soon... we are moving
into more of the testing / docs / polishing area
19:10:06 <oddshocks> before Flock
19:10:26 <nirik> cool. We still on target to deploy before flock hopefully?
19:10:29 <pingou> sounds very nice oddshocks
19:10:29 <oddshocks> Glad to know you guys like it :) Mizmo and Jenn kicked butt
19:10:30 <tdk3fe> abadger1999: thank you. It's difficult to know what still
needs to be done on Trac since a lot of tickets were posted many months ago but
haven't had any activity
19:10:46 <oddshocks> nirik: For sure. Production before flock is doable and remains
19:10:49 <tdk3fe> abadger1999: so if that ticket can be closed if you could refer me
to some that are still pending that would be great
19:11:01 <oddshocks> nirik: threebean and I are very comfortable with where
19:11:31 <nirik> tdk3fe: yeah, it's hard sometimes... if theres an easyfix
thing, we could just do it and it's done, or we can file it for someone, but then it
sits there likely for a while...
19:11:43 <nirik> oddshocks: excellent. Looking forward to it being live.
19:11:49 <oddshocks> :)
19:12:08 <nirik> any other applications news?
19:12:27 <nirik> #info badges moving forward fine, on track to deploy before flock
19:12:39 <nirik> #info mirrormanager updated this week, still more work to do on
19:13:26 * pingou hasn't done much dev lately
19:13:37 <nirik> yeah, things seem quiet on a number of apps...
19:13:40 <pingou> still need to review abadger1999 's p-r
19:14:16 <nirik> ok, moving along then...
19:14:19 <nirik> #topic Sysadmin status / discussion
19:14:23 <abadger1999> new python-fedora is in fedora18+ and el6 testing that adds
19:14:27 <abadger1999> it's a backport.
19:14:31 <nirik> fair bit of activity on the sysadmin side.
19:14:34 <nirik> abadger1999: cool. ;)
19:14:38 <smooge> abadger1999, cool
19:14:40 <abadger1999> since the p-r to python-fedora has been holding up a new
19:14:41 <oddshocks> Nice
19:14:54 <nirik> I will be out on site at our main datacenter next week mon, tue,
19:15:38 <nirik> this means I will likely not be as available on irc/email, so if
folks could try and look for any questions people have in our channels and answer them in
my absense that would be great.
19:16:00 <nirik> we also have an outage tuesday to add mem/disks to some virthosts.
19:16:05 * dgilmore will try
19:16:26 <pingou> I sent a patch of an ansible playbook to remove users from
denyhosts, but I need to test it before merging
19:16:43 <nirik> pingou: great!
19:17:10 <nirik> here's my tenative schedule of things:
if anyone has other items for me to do
while there, please let me know.
19:17:17 <pingou> I should also integrate doc update in the patch
19:17:24 <nirik> #info kevin on site in phx2 next mon/tue/wed.
19:17:31 <nirik> #info outage next tuesday at 21UTC
19:17:46 <tdk3fe> nirik: where's the datacenter at?
19:17:50 <pingou> nirik: looks busy
19:18:09 <nirik> abadger1999 has also been working on our rbac-playbook wrapper.
Still needs more work, but hopefully will be available before too long.
19:18:16 <nirik> tdk3fe: phoenix, az
19:18:21 <nirik> pingou: yeah, always is. ;(
19:18:23 <tdk3fe> nirik: nice
19:18:39 <pingou> rbac?
19:18:43 <nirik> pingou: and things take 5 times the amount of time you would expect
them to in the datacenter for some reason.
19:19:12 <nirik> role based access control. basically a way for non sysadmin-main
people to run ansible-playbooks on hosts that they have permissions to.
19:19:23 <pingou> ok
19:19:28 <pingou> nice :)
19:20:09 <nirik> ok, any other sysadmin side items?
19:20:27 <nirik> oh, I had one more.
19:20:30 <smooge> am i still on?
19:20:36 <nirik> I think so
19:20:42 <mitzie_> yes
19:20:44 <smooge> will wait for your item
19:20:55 <nirik> we have a ticket patrick filed a while back: ticket #3864 Publish
zodbot's IRC logs?
19:21:11 <nirik> zodbot makes logs, someone asked us for them at one point.
19:21:16 <nirik> I am in favor of disabling them and not providing them to anyone
19:21:36 <pingou> +1
19:21:47 <nirik> does anyone have strong arguments against that idea?
19:22:01 <oddshocks> Just curiousity
19:22:05 <smooge> what logs outside of meeting logs does it keep? sorry I thought
that was for meeting logs to be better searchable
19:22:35 <nirik> it has a channellogger plugin, I have no idea why it was enabled.
19:22:36 <nirik> so it keeps logs on every channel it's in all the time.
19:23:00 <pingou> nirik: is it needed for .seen or .last?
19:23:06 <abadger1999> nirik: +1
19:23:07 <nirik> I don't think so...
19:23:24 <oddshocks> Ohhh. I'm not sure why we wouldn't provide meeting logs
if we had them, but I could understand why we don't keep and provide 24/7 logs from
19:23:42 <nirik> right. meeting logs are fine, we do publish them.
19:23:47 <oddshocks> Right on :)
19:24:00 <nirik> but there's lots of reasons general logs are bad.
19:24:26 <nirik> ok, if no objections I will go nuke that stuff.
19:24:38 <nirik> smooge: did you have other sysadmin items?
19:24:40 <smooge> nope nuke it and turn it off
19:25:06 <smooge> Basically this week has been getting orders done and tracking
19:25:27 <smooge> we have some problem with epylog and people logins not matching. I
think it is a weedeater
19:25:34 <smooge> but not sure
19:25:44 <nirik> any further news on blade server network, memory orders, or new
bvirthost orders? :)
19:26:17 <smooge> memory 18 sticks should be in PHX2. 12 sticks not known. Dell
boxes got a PO this morning right before meeting. Blade center no idea
19:26:36 <nirik> ok.
19:26:41 <smooge> so the Dell boxes might get there when you are there
19:26:52 <nirik> yeah, we can see I guess.
19:26:54 <smooge> I am checking with mgalgoci on the network items
19:27:02 <nirik> thanks
19:27:05 <nirik> #topic Upcoming Tasks/Items
19:27:05 <nirik> https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/list/infrastructure/
19:27:13 <nirik> any upcoming items folks would like to note or schedule?
19:27:58 <nirik> #topic Open Floor
19:28:05 <smooge> no items other than your trip
19:28:12 <nirik> anyone have anything for open floor? things to note? suggestions?
19:28:13 <pingou> just the deadline of August 1st for the presentation at flock
19:28:18 * pingou needs to start his
19:28:29 * nirik needs to write his up soon too.
19:28:54 <smooge> I have two graphics and a lot of notes
19:29:46 <nirik> ok, if nothing else, will close out the meeting in a minute or two
19:31:11 <nirik> ok, thanks for coming everyone!
19:31:15 <nirik> #endmeeting