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[Fedora-infrastructure-list] Quick project for doc's
by Mike McGrath 19 Oct '06

19 Oct '06

Throwing this out there for anyone interested. Karsten (quaid) has requested a script that will compare the packages between two releases. Below is a quick IRC chat we had. I've been busy with other stuff so I won't be able to get to it right away. The idea of coming to us is maintainability. Whatever we end up with will end up in CVS and maintained by us so anyone out there that's good with Perl/Python/XML sign up. Don't take it if you don't have time to do it, I already did that :) Whoever wants it go ahead and reply to the list so everyone knows, and add it to: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Schedule If you need any help let me know and I'll point you in the right direction. -Mike ======== From #fedora-docs =========== [15:16:54] * quaid gets an example [15:17:36] <quaid> http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/release-notes/fc5/#sn-PackageChanges [15:18:06] <quaid> and someone did help with that list, which I just put into a <screen> block [15:19:30] <quaid> so, you can see a bit of the package info in there, and the designation of if it is coming in or out. [15:20:11] <quaid> naturally, it would be cool for it to say what happened to a package leaving, such as going to Extra, but that doesn't seem doable ... that info isn't stored anywhere to extract. [15:20:24] <quaid> so, here is the need, in cascading order: [15:20:29] <mmcgrath> k [15:20:31] <quaid> 1. treediff -> a nice list [15:20:39] <quaid> 2. nice list -> XML list [15:21:06] <quaid> 3. a nice script that can be run somewhere to let a clueless editor do this easily [15:21:10] <quaid> </> [15:21:49] <quaid> we want to put in the set for each test, etc., so it shows the package changes incrementally in that way. [15:23:25] <mmcgrath> I got'cha. [15:23:45] <mmcgrath> So what of that stuff would you like the infrastructure team to do? [15:26:37] <mmcgrath> quaid: I think I'm following you now, you just really want some scripts to do all of this stuff automatically and then stick the results somewhere for you guys to do some final touches. [15:27:34] <quaid> mmcgrath: right, although the results could be a 100% valid XML document (header declaring it as e.g. a 'section'), and we really don't need to anything more than XInclude it. [15:28:45] <quaid> also, a reason for turning to Infrastructure v. cooking it up ourselves in maintainability ... we want something that is part of the formal process and has some support so when e.g. treediff or something changes, the smarts are there to fix it. :) [15:29:57] <mmcgrath> I don't think that will be too much of a problem. We can at least have SOMETHING to you soon. you'll probably have to get back to me a few times about how to fine tune it

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[Fedora-infrastructure-list] IRC Meeting Log - 9/28/06
by Jeffrey Tadlock 28 Sep '06

28 Sep '06

Short meeting today. IRC Log attached. --Jeffrey 16:03 < warren> meeting time? 16:06 < lyz> yep 16:08 < abadger1999> ready and waiting. 16:08 < abompard> hey there :) 16:08 < warren> mmcgrath said he wouldn't be here 16:08 < lyz> abompard, welcome back 16:08 < abompard> *at last* my internet connection is up 16:08 < abompard> thanks lyz 16:09 < warren> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Schedule 16:09 < warren> How about we just let anybody who has anything new to say, say it. 16:10 < lyz> I'm working on making the shema files for the new account system 16:10 < abompard> lyz: I'll bring myself up to speed on that as soon as I can 16:10 < lyz> ok 16:10 < lyz> I'll email you them 16:10 < abompard> great 16:10 < warren> We can now provide xen guests for your experimentation. 16:11 < lyz> they still need some work 16:11 < warren> Please let me know if you want a xen guest. 16:11 < abompard> noted 16:11 < lyz> I'm hoping to have them done in a week 16:11 < lyz> we'll need a guest then, I assuem 16:11 < lyz> assume 16:12 < abadger1999> warren: Do we need to do our own install into the guests or do you give us a password to get in or...? 16:13 < warren> err.. I will be traveling soon, so best ask the team to help you with guests. 16:13 < warren> abadger1999, I installed mercurial and bzrtest, but I didn't add the account system. 16:13 < warren> didn't have time 16:13 < warren> I hoped for quick & easy wiki instructions or the RPM that dgilmore said he wants to make. 16:14 < dgilmore> warren: as soon as i can ill have both done:D 16:15 < dgilmore> warren: the one thing i dont know for sure is all the different groups and what each contains 16:15 * iWolf wanders in 16:15 < warren> sorry, I don't mean to blame, we're all distracted by things outside of this =( 16:17 < dgilmore> warren: its ok 16:17 < warren> lyz, so Fedora Directory Server within that guest? 16:18 < lyz> warren, I think so, I'm going to be testing on openldap 16:18 < lyz> can FDS accept forign schema files? 16:18 < dgilmore> lyz: some 16:19 < dgilmore> lyz i know FDS doesnt like the egroupware schema 16:19 < lyz> do you know why 16:19 < dgilmore> its a little pedantic about the syntax 16:19 < lyz> as long as it is extendable, we'll get it to work 16:20 < warren> OK, someone will setup for you a guest. please let the list know about your needs and progress. Thanks. 16:21 < lyz> cool 16:23 < abompard> yeah, thanks 16:23 < warren> OK, anybody else have something to report? 16:23 < warren> Or a concern to share 16:24 < warren> mmcgrath, dgilmore, abadger1999: We need to update our infrastructure access and passwords in doc umentation, and standardize upon a way to encrypt passwords with a set of target keys. 16:25 < warren> And fix the stupid PDU mislabeling 16:25 < dgilmore> just that ive finished most of my list of thinsg 16:25 < dgilmore> warren: yeah i dont have any of that info since we moved 16:26 < warren> it is spread out and much of it unkonwn 16:26 < warren> unkonwn 16:26 < warren> damn 16:26 * warren smacks himself. 16:26 < warren> Ok, if nothing further new to report, this meeting is over.

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[Fedora-infrastructure-list] Absent (Sep 28, 2006)
by Christian Iseli 27 Sep '06

27 Sep '06

Hi gang, Tomorrow, I'll be absent from the FESCo and infrastructure meetings: I'm a voluntary fire fighter in my hometown and we have a training exercise tomorrow evening (MET) right at the same time as the IRC meetings... Cheers, C

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[Fedora-infrastructure-list] Xen Server and Network Tracking
by Warren Togami 27 Sep '06

27 Sep '06

Xen Server and Network Tracking =============================== http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/InfrastructurePrivate/PhoenixServers/XenServe… Please track Xen guests and network assignments on this page. Template Installed ================== I have a template xen guest installed with yesterday's rawhide on /dev/mapper/VolGroup00-template of xen1. The template has its networking disabled. If you copy the template to create another guest, get an IP address assigned, then add it to /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 before enabling it. Although I am not sure how useful it is to use this template, given that you can use anaconda to install a new xen guest within minutes. Any ideas of the best way to make an image file of this LVM volume so that we can easily copy it to the xen2 server? Warren Togami wtogami(a)redhat.com

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[Fedora-infrastructure-list] Back
by Aurelien Bompard 26 Sep '06

26 Sep '06

Dudes, I have good news : my internet connection is back. As soon as I'm done with the backlog (9000+ emails, spamassassin filtered it out to 2500+, yum yum) I'll be able to resume working with you. I'm looking forward to it. Bye, Aurélien -- http://aurelien.bompard.org ~~~~ Jabber : abompard(a)jabber.fr "Science sans conscience n'est que ruine de l'âme." -- Rabelais

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[Fedora-infrastructure-list] owners.list to PackageDB translation status and opinions
by Toshio Kuratomi 26 Sep '06

26 Sep '06

Hey guys, I'm working on a script to parse owners.list and import it into the new PackageDB. So far, the biggest hurdle has been that some email addresses in owners.list do not match with the email addresses in the accounts system. I've tracked most of these down with a few exceptions and caveats. extras-qa [] fedoraproject.org: This is the initial qa contact that is entered into bugzilla for bugs on a package. I'd like to discard this information and start fresh in the new packageDB. If a qa-contact should be applied to the package then it should be entered for each package, otherwise there will be no qa-contact. If we are currently using extras-qa to do something useful please let me know so we can work out what's sane to do here. extras-orphan [] fedoraproject.org: For orphaned packages. I think we're going to create an orphan account to fill this. fedora-perl-devel-list [] redhat.com: It appears that perl packages are adding this mailing list to the initial CC list. In the new packageDB, the plan is to have SIG-groups that can watch a package. People in the SIG would get emailed whenever the SIG was modified. Would this be an acceptable alternative or do people want mail to go specifically to the mailing list? Unknown owner: jylitalo [] iki fi: xplanet This package looks like an import from fedora.us times and the rebuilds in FE seem to have been done by someone other than the packager. I'll ping the packager to see if he wants to orphan it. Unknown initialCClist members: aaron.bennett [] olin.edu: ifplugd carsten [] dvdisaster.de: dvdisaster gary_lerhaupt [] dell.com: dkms jwz [] jwz.org: xscreensaver loic [] gnu.org: cal3d, openalpp, osgal, osgcal, poker-engine, poker-eval, pypoker-eval ludovic.rousseau [] gmail.com: pcsc-lite, pcsc-perl, pcsc-tools mystilleef [] gmail.com: scribes pmatilai [] laiskiainen.org: apt, fedora-package-config-apt, synaptic It looks to me as though these are email addresses for upstream maintainers and interested parties within the Fedora Community that have no active packages. In the current packageDB schema, all the references to people ask for further information from the accounts system. This should help with the current out-of-syncedness we see between owners.list/bugzilla and the accounts system. However, it causes problems when we want to add people to the initialCClist that are not in the accountsDB. I see several possible solutions: 1) Allow packagers to add an account for the upstream person in the accountsDB. This account is a member of no groups and has no rights but will be notified of changes to the Fedora Package. 2) Have the upstream person register their bugzilla email address in the accountsDB and sign up for the packages they want to watch themselves. 3) Allow arbitrary email addresses into the packageDB watchers field instead of accountDB id's. Note that the watcher role currently watches more than just bugzilla. (It is also informed of package commits and other per-package notifications.) I think #1 is closer to what we have now than the other two but upstream maintainers may not want to get cvs commit messages for spec file changes. Maybe defining a bugzilla-watcher group combined with #1 would be the best choice? If you have an idea feel free to send it, otherwise I'll forge ahead on the path I've outlined. -Toshio

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[Fedora-infrastructure-list] LDAP OID
by TomLy 26 Sep '06

26 Sep '06

I've been working on the schema files, but it's turning out that we really do need an enterprise oid. Will someone on the RedHat side fill out the form at http://www.iana.org/cgi-bin/enterprise.pl and give me the OID that results so I may put it in the schema files? ~lyz

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[Fedora-infrastructure-list] Meeting Logs
by Damian Myerscough 26 Sep '06

26 Sep '06

Hey, Is it possible that someone take logs at the meeting and send them out, we should possible get a BOT that does this that just sits in the channel loggin the meetings then send out the meeting logs. This way I still have a feeling of what is gonig on, thanks

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[Fedora-infrastructure-list] Project needs taker.
by Mike McGrath 26 Sep '06

26 Sep '06

Simple project, easy way to start getting involved with our infrastructure and learning whats out there. We need someone to take the first project listed on the Schedule page: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Schedule Which is basically desiging and making the https://admin.fedoraproject.org/ index page. Anyone who's interested just edit the schedule page and put your name down as the project leader. -Mike

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[Fedora-infrastructure-list] Regrets
by Warren Togami 26 Sep '06

26 Sep '06

I will not be able to make today's meeting. I will be traveling to the LTSP hackfest with the goal of integrating K12LTSP into Fedora. Warren

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