server March 2015

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Trimming down the package set
by Stephen Gallagher 03 Apr '15

03 Apr '15

So, at DevConf over the weekend, I had a conversation with several people around the package set that we should include on the Fedora Server install media in Fedora 22. When we put together the install media for Fedora 21, we basically took the old Fedora 20 DVD install and stripped out some of the things we didn't feel were necessary for the Server. However, I suspect that we may have missed numerous things that are not *strictly* important for Server. In particular, the Fedora Server DVD includes the package groups for many of the Fedora development tools (particularly those useful for developing Fedora *itself*, such as the @fedora-packager group. I don't currently have statistics on how much space this would save on the installation DVD (since I would pretty much have to build one without these packages to verify it), but I can get an approximate idea of the difference by installing the minimal set of Server packages on one VM and a set that includes the devel packages on another. The result I see is: == Standard Server Install == * 614 packages * 1,097 MB on the installed system == Server Install Plus Development Tools == * 716 packages * 1496 MB on the installed system. Even if we assume a (very) generous assumption that the RPM compression reduces the size difference by 50%, we still see a probable savings of 200 MB on the install DVD. So, my questions to the Server SIG: 1) Is this savings in the DVD ISO download size sufficiently significant to continue this conversation? 2) Does anyone see any value in keeping this material *on the DVD*? Obviously, all of these packages will remain available to the network install or post-installation environments. For those who are interested in minutiae, I am attaching the current fedora-install-server.ks file that is used to generate the DVD. If you see anything else there that might be worth including in this discussion, I'm all ears.

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Password policy changes
by Adam Williamson 02 Apr '15

02 Apr '15

Hey, folks. I'm writing with my Server SIG member hat on, here. We've been discussing password policy changes at our meeting today. So the Great Password Policy Bunfight of 2015 was resolved by anaconda creating a mechanism for products/spins to set their own password policy: https://github.com/rhinstaller/anaconda/commit/8f24eeaedd7691b6ebe119592e5b… I'm slightly worried, however, about the possibility that everyone goes out and picks a more lenient policy more or less at random and we wind up with different policies on every Fedora medium. That seems like it'd be needlessly confusing to users and difficult to document. I'm wondering if those products/spins intending to set a policy weaker than the default could all agree on the same one, so there'd only be at most two policies to care about (and if all products/spins overrode the upstream default, there'd only be one). The obvious choice would be the pre-F22 policy, which I believe should be: --nostrict --minlen=6 --minquality=50 --nochanges --emptyok (though it's not *entirely* clear from the code - I think it used pwquality upstream defaults - so I may be a bit off). What's the general feeling here? Have other SIGs discussed this yet? Come to any decisions? Thanks! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net

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[Testing Needed] rolekit-0.3.0-1.fc22
by Stephen Gallagher 01 Apr '15

01 Apr '15

https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/rolekit-0.3.0-1.fc22 Defying even my own expectations, we've released rolekit 0.3.0 today with full multiple-instancing support. I'd really like for this to end up in the Fedora 22 Beta which freezes on Tuesday morning, so if anyone who is willing can please download the Fedora 22 Server TC5 that will be available in a few hours, update to rolekit-0.3.0 and try it out, that would be a big help. Some things to test: == Database Server Role == * Install the first instance from a mostly pristine Server install. * Install additional instance * Install some instances with the default owner, others with a custom one. * Decommission them in random order. * Ensure that they can be reached over TCP/IP sockets == Domain Controller Role == No obvious regressions. This is unlikely, since we didn't touch the Domain Controller role code and made only minor tweaks to the common code.

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Server SIG Weekly Meeting Minutes (2015-03-31)
by Stephen Gallagher 01 Apr '15

01 Apr '15

========================================================= #fedora-meeting-1: Server SIG Weekly Meeting (2015-03-31) ========================================================= Meeting started by sgallagh at 15:01:31 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2015-03-31/fedora-meeting… . Meeting summary --------------- * roll call (sgallagh, 15:01:32) * Agenda (sgallagh, 15:07:02) * Agenda Item: F22 Beta Freeze (sgallagh, 15:07:02) * Agenda Item: Rolekit Testing (sgallagh, 15:07:02) * F22 Beta Freeze (sgallagh, 15:08:05) * TC6 is lacking content from the last stable updates push (sgallagh, 15:14:40) * TC6 does not include the pwpolicy changes yet (sgallagh, 15:14:53) * The addition of dnf-yum was broken on TC6 (sgallagh, 15:15:16) * Rolekit Testing (sgallagh, 15:18:23) * Testing help needed on rolekit, test plan at https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/server/2015-March/001795.html (sgallagh, 15:21:39) * rolekit test examples at https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/server/2015-March/001797.html (sgallagh, 15:22:08) * Open Floor (sgallagh, 15:24:52) * getfedora.org updates (sgallagh, 15:29:15) * highlight DB role (mizmo, 15:29:49) * update cockpit screenshots (mizmo, 15:29:56) * consider rolekit visualization (mizmo, 15:32:25) * solicit new quotes for server page (mizmo, 15:33:23) * quote: andreasn from the Cockpit team to quote on the Domain Controller role, since he had an excellent experience with it (mizmo, 15:35:28) * Open Floor (take two) (sgallagh, 15:39:44) Meeting ended at 15:43:28 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * sgallagh (63) * junland (23) * mizmo (19) * zodbot (8) * nirik (4) * simo (4) * Corey84 (1) * adamw (0) * mitr (0) * stefw (0) * danofsatx (0) * tuanta (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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Server SIG Meeting Agenda (2015-03-31)
by Stephen Gallagher 01 Apr '15

01 Apr '15

Topics: * Beta Freeze in effect * Beta TC6 arriving today * Rolekit testing Other items?

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2015-03-30 @ 1600 UTC ** Fedora 22 Blocker Review
by Mike Ruckman 30 Mar '15

30 Mar '15

# F22 Blocker Review meeting # Date: 2015-03-30 # Time: 1600 UTC # Location: #fedora-blocker-review on irc.freenode.net Well, this email is going out a bit late, but I'm sure you all know it's that time of the week again! We've had a few more proposals since our meeting last week. We currently have 5 beta and 2 final proposals to review. If you want to take a look at the proposed or accepted blockers, the full list can be found here: https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/ Make sure to click through the milestones to see how many we have before the meeting! We'll be evaluating these bugs to see if they violate any of the Release Criteria and warrant the blocking of a release if they're not fixed. Information on the release criteria for F22 can be found on the wiki [0]. For more information about the Blocker and Freeze exception process, check out these links: - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_blocker_bug_process - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_freeze_exception_bug_process And for those of you who are curious how a Blocker Review Meeting works - or how it's supposed to go and you want to run one - check out the SOP on the wiki: - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting See you tomorrow! [0] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Release_Criteria -- // Mike -- Fedora QA freenode: roshi http://roshi.fedorapeople.org

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Re: Review Request 150: Define the password policy for the interactive installer
by Stephen Gallagher 26 Mar '15

26 Mar '15

----------------------------------------------------------- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://reviewboard-fedoraserver.rhcloud.com/r/150/ ----------------------------------------------------------- (Updated March 25, 2015, 1:12 p.m.) Review request for Server SIG. Changes ------- Set the reviewer to the Server SIG Repository: fedora-productimg-server Description ------- - Reorganize some of the paths into %globals for easier updating Diffs ----- fedora-productimg-server.spec 2c126d01d9939d50f626ed69717325e7b58fe31f interactive-defaults.ks PRE-CREATION Diff: http://reviewboard-fedoraserver.rhcloud.com/r/150/diff/ Testing ------- Testing has been limited due to anaconda packages not being available for testing. The version currently in F22 hasn't been built with this support and Rawhide crashes on unrelated issues. Full testing will be done on Friday. Thanks, Stephen Gallagher

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Server SIG Weekly Meeting Minutes (2015-03-24)
by Stephen Gallagher 25 Mar '15

25 Mar '15

========================================================= #fedora-meeting-1: Server SIG Weekly Meeting (2015-03-24) ========================================================= Meeting started by sgallagh at 15:00:30 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2015-03-24/fedora-meeting… . Meeting summary --------------- * roll call (sgallagh, 15:00:31) * Agenda (sgallagh, 15:03:18) * Agenda Item: Anaconda Password Policy (sgallagh, 15:03:30) * Anaconda Password Policy (sgallagh, 15:05:48) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1191842#c14 (sgallagh, 15:06:06) * ACTION: adamw to email other products to try to unify the pwpolicy change (sgallagh, 15:16:17) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Kevin/Draft_Passwordpolicy (nirik, 15:21:36) * LINK: http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/bunfight (adamw, 15:38:09) * AGREED: The password policy will be "--nostrict --minlen=6 --minquality=50 --nochanges --emptyok" for root, user and luks (sgallagh, 15:39:12) * ACTION: sgallagh to update fedora-productimg-server with the agreed defaults. (sgallagh, 15:42:08) * Open Floor (sgallagh, 15:42:57) * LINK: http://reviewboard-fedoraserver.rhcloud.com/dashboard/ (sgallagh, 15:44:40) * Help needed in reviewing rolekit database server patches (sgallagh, 15:44:53) * ACTION: adamw and danofsatx to review the database server patches at their convenience (sgallagh, 15:47:27) Meeting ended at 15:49:32 UTC. Action Items ------------ * adamw to email other products to try to unify the pwpolicy change * sgallagh to update fedora-productimg-server with the agreed defaults. * adamw and danofsatx to review the database server patches at their convenience Action Items, by person ----------------------- * adamw * adamw to email other products to try to unify the pwpolicy change * adamw and danofsatx to review the database server patches at their convenience * danofsatx * adamw and danofsatx to review the database server patches at their convenience * sgallagh * sgallagh to update fedora-productimg-server with the agreed defaults. * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * sgallagh (99) * mizmo (47) * adamw (45) * simo (38) * nirik (37) * danofsatx (14) * zodbot (10) * stefw (7) * junland (3) * masta (1) * mitr (0) * tuanta (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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Regrets not attending today meeting
by Truong Anh Tuan 25 Mar '15

25 Mar '15

Hi there, I got a bad headache then I want to go to bed earlier; so I could not attend today meeting, sorry. I will read the meeting minutes later. Rgds, Tuan

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Agenda for Server SIG Meeting (2015-04-24)
by Stephen Gallagher 24 Mar '15

24 Mar '15

We have one item so far on the agenda for this week: The decision on the Anaconda password-policy. Anything else?

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