packaging April 2018

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Fixing wrong Bootstrapping part in Guidelines
by Jun Aruga 23 Oct '18

23 Oct '18

Dear Packagers who are using Boostrapping logic for the cyclical dependency Need your help to fix wrong Bootstrapping part in Guidelines. This mail is long. Sorry for that in advance. You may be building the cyclical dependency packages by using a variable such as _with_bootstrap, need_bootstrap, bootstrap, enable_test, and etc.. For example, you may build with below ways for that, if you will use mock command. ``` $ mock -r fedora-rawhide-x86_64 --with=bootstrap *.src.rpm => _with_bootstrap can be used as --with=bootstrap $ mock -r fedora-rawhide-x86_64 --define '_with_bootstrap 1' *.src.rpm $ mock -r fedora-rawhide-x86_64 --define 'need_bootstrap 1' *.src.rpm $ mock -r fedora-rawhide-x86_64 --define 'enable_test 1' *.src.rpm ... ``` Here is a document page to unify the Bootstrap logic. You may know it. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines#Bootstrapping However I found that below part in the page is wrong. ``` %{!?_with_bootstrap: %global bootstrap 1} ``` Because .. If _with_bootstrap is not set from outside, bootstrap is 1 => bootstrap is True/Enabled if _with_bootstrap is set as 1 from outside, bootstrap's value is not set. => the value is empty if it is not declared in advance. It's a kind of 0. bootstrap is False/Disabled. This situation is opposite meaning of "_with_bootstrap". Below way not using negative operator `!?` is correct. ``` %{?_with_bootstrap: %global bootstrap 1} ``` The reason why I wrote this here is I found that had already been reported 2 years ago for packaging committee, however it was closed without fixing. https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issue/509 I am not sure that why it is not admitted. You may feel that it does not matter because you may edit the Bootstrapping logic in the RPM spec file manually. But in my case, I am one of the people who use the Bootsrapping logic actively. There are 89 RPM packages that constitutes Ruby on Rails 5.0. To build Ruby on Rails 5.0 completely from scratch, I have to build the packages total 103 times considering bootstrap. I am trying to build those packages automatically by a tool [1] with a configuration file [2] for Ruby on Rails. It is important to fix it due to that. Fortunately today another guy Vit created new ticket for that. So, if YOU like this proposal, please comment in below page of the ticket or reply here. It is helpful for us to move this huge rock. I really want to fix it. "I like it." comment please. => https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issue/684 Thank you for your help. [1] https://github.com/sclorg/rpm-list-builder [2] https://github.com/sclorg/rhscl-rebuild-recipes/blob/master/ror.yml Kind regards, Jun Aruga

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Summary/Minutes from today's FPC Meeting (2018-04-26 16:00 - 17:00 UTC)
by James Antill 26 Apr '18

26 Apr '18

====================== #fedora-meeting-1: fpc ====================== Meeting started by geppetto at 16:00:02 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2018-04-26/fpc.2018- 04-26-16.00.log.html . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll Call (geppetto, 16:00:02) * Schedule (geppetto, 16:05:37) * LINK: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/packaging@lists.fedor aproject.org/message/UATLIX2DFWOOQY2SDEAWENND3W6UGSLE/ (geppetto, 16:05:40) * #761 Modernize R guidelines (geppetto, 16:05:54) * ACTION: tibbs vollunteers to build a bunch of R packages with and without %build to see if there's a difference. (geppetto, 16:18:58) * #754 Should py3-foo obsolete py2-foo (when py2-foo is removed)? (geppetto, 16:19:12) * #743 Add link to C/C++ build flag docs. in redhat-rpm-config (geppetto, 16:21:05) * Open Floor (geppetto, 16:25:11) * #710 Ruby packaging guidelines update (geppetto, 16:28:53) * ACTION: VOTE: Ruby packaging guidelines update (+1:6, 0:0, -1:0) (geppetto, 16:48:19) * Open Floor (geppetto, 16:48:30) * LINK: https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/redhat-rpm-config/blob/master/f/ macros#_161 (Pharaoh_Atem, 16:51:11) * tibbs confirms %build needed for debuginfo generation (geppetto, 16:55:21) Meeting ended at 17:02:18 UTC. Action Items ------------ * tibbs vollunteers to build a bunch of R packages with and without %build to see if there's a difference. * VOTE: Ruby packaging guidelines update (+1:6, 0:0, -1:0) Action Items, by person ----------------------- * tibbs * tibbs vollunteers to build a bunch of R packages with and without %build to see if there's a difference. * **UNASSIGNED** * VOTE: Ruby packaging guidelines update (+1:6, 0:0, -1:0) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * tibbs (61) * geppetto (55) * decathorpe (31) * Pharaoh_Atem (18) * zodbot (15) * ignatenkobrain (14) * redi (11) * mboddu (4) * mbooth (3) * jkurik (2) * ignatenkobrain_ (2) * nirik (1) * limburgher (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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Schedule for Thursday's FPC Meeting (2018-04-26 16:00 UTC)
by James Antill 26 Apr '18

26 Apr '18

Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FPC meeting Thursday at 2018-04-26 16:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 on irc.freenode.net. Local time information (via. uitime): ================= Day: Thursday ================== 2018-04-26 09:00 PDT US/Pacific 2018-04-26 12:00 EDT --> US/Eastern <-- 2018-04-26 16:00 UTC UTC 2018-04-26 17:00 BST Europe/London 2018-04-26 18:00 CEST Europe/Berlin 2018-04-26 18:00 CEST Europe/Paris 2018-04-26 21:30 IST Asia/Calcutta ---------------- New Day: Friday ----------------- 2018-04-27 00:00 HKT Asia/Hong_Kong 2018-04-27 00:00 +08 Asia/Singapore 2018-04-27 01:00 JST Asia/Tokyo 2018-04-27 02:00 AEST Australia/Brisbane Links to all tickets below can be found at: https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issues?status=Open&tags=meeting = Followups = #topic #691 noarch *sub*packages with arch-specific dependencies .fpc 691 https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issue/691 #topic #693 Wiki:Packaging:RPMMacros .fpc 693 https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issue/693 #topic #694 Packaging guidelines for application independence .fpc 694 https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issue/694 #topic #702 C/C++ guidelines should say using clang needs an exception .fpc 702 https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issue/702 #topic #708 Allocating a static uid and gid for openvswitch .fpc 708 https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issue/708 #topic #713 Forward-looking conditionals by default .fpc 713 https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issue/713 #topic #714 let's kill file deps! .fpc 714 https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issue/714 #topic #719 Simplify packaging of forge-hosted projects .fpc 719 https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issue/719 #topic #726 Review for SELinux Independent Policy packaging Draft .fpc 726 https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issue/726 #topic #743 Add link to C/C++ build flag docs. in redhat-rpm-config .fpc 743 https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issue/743 #topic #754 Should py3-foo obsolete py2-foo (when py2-foo is removed)? .fpc 754 https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issue/754 = New business = #topic #761 Modernize R guidelines .fpc 761 https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issue/761 = Open Floor = For more complete details, please visit each individual ticket. The report of the agenda items can be found at: https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issues?status=Open&tags=meeting If you would like to add something to this agenda, you can reply to this e-mail, file a new ticket at https://pagure.io/packaging-committee , e-mail me directly, or bring it up at the end of the meeting, during the open floor topic. Note that added topics may be deferred until the following meeting.

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Summary/Minutes from today's FPC Meeting (2018-04-19 16:00 - 17:10 UTC)
by James Antill 25 Apr '18

25 Apr '18

====================== #fedora-meeting-1: fpc ====================== Meeting started by geppetto at 16:00:58 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2018-04-19/fpc.2018- 04-19-16.00.log.html . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll Call (geppetto, 16:00:58) * Schedule (geppetto, 16:06:44) * LINK: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/packaging@lists.fedor aproject.org/message/GYPAAFI5USF4RULRGGZYHQTVKCHJFKXI/ (geppetto, 16:06:51) * #754 Should py3-foo obsolete py2-foo (when py2-foo is removed)? (geppetto, 16:07:02) * LINK: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_remove_a_package_at_end_of_lif e (mhroncok, 16:18:53) * LINK: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines#Renaming.2FRepla cing_Existing_Packages (mhroncok, 16:34:27) * ACTION: People to add new proposals to the ticket, mainly on if we should ban it or allow it (and how/when). (geppetto, 16:45:19) * #743 Add link to C/C++ build flag docs. in redhat-rpm-config (geppetto, 16:45:41) * Open Floor (geppetto, 16:51:56) * #710 Ruby packaging guidelines update (geppetto, 16:57:43) * ACTION: ignatenkobrain will review guidelines and write summary in the ticket. (geppetto, 17:01:31) * Open Floor (geppetto, 17:02:04) * ACTION: mhroncok will review guidelines and write summary in the ticket as well (mhroncok, 17:02:04) Meeting ended at 17:12:01 UTC. Action Items ------------ * People to add new proposals to the ticket, mainly on if we should ban it or allow it (and how/when). * ignatenkobrain will review guidelines and write summary in the ticket. * mhroncok will review guidelines and write summary in the ticket as well Action Items, by person ----------------------- * ignatenkobrain * ignatenkobrain will review guidelines and write summary in the ticket. * mhroncok * mhroncok will review guidelines and write summary in the ticket as well * **UNASSIGNED** * People to add new proposals to the ticket, mainly on if we should ban it or allow it (and how/when). People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * geppetto (83) * tibbs (74) * mhroncok (60) * ignatenkobrain_ (48) * zodbot (25) * decathorpe (18) * mbooth (8) * redi (5) * ignatenkobrain (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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Schedule for Thursday's FPC Meeting (2018-04-19 16:00 UTC)
by James Antill 19 Apr '18

19 Apr '18

Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FPC meeting Thursday at 2018-04-19 16:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 on irc.freenode.net. Local time information (via. uitime): ================= Day: Thursday ================== 2018-04-19 09:00 PDT US/Pacific 2018-04-19 12:00 EDT --> US/Eastern <-- 2018-04-19 16:00 UTC UTC 2018- 04-19 17:00 BST Europe/London 2018-04-19 18:00 CEST Europe/Berlin 2018-04-19 18:00 CEST Europe/Paris 2018-04-19 21:30 IST Asia/Calcutta ---------------- New Day: Friday ----------------- 2018-04-20 00:00 HKT Asia/Hong_Kong 201 8-04-20 00:00 +08 Asia/Singapore 2018-04-20 01:00 JST Asia/Tokyo 2018-04-20 02:00 AEST Australia/Brisbane Links to all tickets below can be found at: https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issues?status=Open&tags=meeting = Followups = #topic #691 noarch *sub*packages with arch-specific dependencies .fpc 691 https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issue/691 #topic #693 Wiki:Packaging:RPMMacros .fpc 693 https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issue/693 #topic #694 Packaging guidelines for application independence .fpc 694 https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issue/694 #topic #702 C/C++ guidelines should say using clang needs an exception .fpc 702 https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issue/702 #topic #708 Allocating a static uid and gid for openvswitch .fpc 708 https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issue/708 #topic #710 Ruby packaging guidelines update .fpc 710 https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issue/710 #topic #713 Forward-looking conditionals by default .fpc 713 https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issue/713 #topic #714 let's kill file deps! .fpc 714 https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issue/714 #topic #715 Separately building package documentation .fpc 715 https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issue/715 #topic #719 Simplify packaging of forge-hosted projects .fpc 719 https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issue/719 #topic #726 Review for SELinux Independent Policy packaging Draft .fpc 726 https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issue/726 #topic #743 Add link to C/C++ build flag docs. in redhat-rpm-config .fpc 743 https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issue/743 = New business = #topic #754 Should py3-foo obsolete py2-foo (when py2-foo is removed)? .fpc 754 https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issue/754 = Open Floor = For more complete details, please visit each individual ticket. The report of the agenda items can be found at: https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issues?status=Open&tags=meeting If you would like to add something to this agenda, you can reply to this e-mail, file a new ticket at https://pagure.io/packaging-committee , e-mail me directly, or bring it up at the end of the meeting, during the open floor topic. Note that added topics may be deferred until the following meeting.

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Re: Open Seats on the Fedora Packaging Committee
by James Antill 16 Apr '18

16 Apr '18

On Thu, 2018-03-01 at 02:11 -0500, James Antill wrote: > The Fedora Packaging Committee has some open seats and is accepting > submissions from interested candidates to serve on the FPC. > > The FPC would like to thank Ralf Corsepius, Dominik 'Rathann' > Mierzejewski, and Thomas Spura for their service. [...] > Candidates who are interested should provide the > following details to the FPC for consideration, by emailing it > directly > to me (james(a)fedoraproject.org) > > The FPC will consider all candidates, but strongly prefers > candidates who have extensive experience packaging in Fedora. We will > accept applications for the next two weeks (deadline Wednesday, 2018- > 03-14). We currently have submissions from: churchyard - Miro Hrončok decathorpe - Fabio Valentini hobbes1069 - Richard Shaw ignatenkobrain - Igor Gnatenko jwakely - Jonathan Wakely ...so if you think you sent me an email and your name is not on that list, please send it again! Also, if you are interested you still have 3 days to send me an email.

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Summary/Minutes from today's FPC Meeting (2018-04-12 16:00 - 17:20 UTC)
by James Antill 12 Apr '18

12 Apr '18

====================== #fedora-meeting-1: fpc ====================== Meeting started by geppetto at 16:00:31 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2018-04-12/fpc.2018- 04-12-16.00.log.html . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll Call (geppetto, 16:00:31) * Schedule (geppetto, 16:05:46) * LINK: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/packaging@lists.fedor aproject.org/message/GCXK7RGE7UW2JCAABX3LKNP37DB7VC6L/ (geppetto, 16:05:49) * #761 Modernize R guidelines (geppetto, 16:06:01) * ACTION: Modernize R guidelines (+1:5, 0:0, -1:0) (geppetto, 16:10:52) * #726 Review for SELinux Independent Policy packaging Draft (geppetto, 16:11:45) * ACTION: redi will look at helping tibbs, but not before next week (geppetto, 16:24:55) * #723 Guidelines for handling deprecated dependencies during review (geppetto, 16:24:59) * ACTION: mhroncok Will prep. a draft (geppetto, 16:32:51) * #719 Simplify packaging of forge-hosted projects (geppetto, 16:33:36) * ACTION: redi Volunteers to understand macros and write up a draft for using them. (geppetto, 16:38:59) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Forge-hosted_projects_packaging_auto mation isn't really brief, though. (tibbs, 16:39:08) * #715 Separately building package documentation (geppetto, 16:40:42) * LINK: https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issue/715#comment-50557 2 (mhroncok, 16:58:49) * ACTION: tibbs to paste bits of test agreed on together in the writeup. (geppetto, 17:06:51) * ACTION: Agreed on some wording changes for building docs packages separately (+1:5, 0:0, -1:0) (geppetto, 17:07:24) * Open floor (geppetto, 17:07:44) * ACTION: geppetto update https://pagure.io/packaging-committee for new members (geppetto, 17:10:19) * LINK: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts/group/members/packaging-co mmittee/* (mhroncok, 17:12:04) * ACTION: tibbs to allow new members to alter wiki (geppetto, 17:15:20) Meeting ended at 17:19:02 UTC. Action Items ------------ * Modernize R guidelines (+1:5, 0:0, -1:0) * redi will look at helping tibbs, but not before next week * mhroncok Will prep. a draft * redi Volunteers to understand macros and write up a draft for using them. * tibbs to paste bits of test agreed on together in the writeup. * Agreed on some wording changes for building docs packages separately (+1:5, 0:0, -1:0) * geppetto update https://pagure.io/packaging-committee for new members * tibbs to allow new members to alter wiki Action Items, by person ----------------------- * geppetto * geppetto update https://pagure.io/packaging-committee for new members * mhroncok * mhroncok Will prep. a draft * redi * redi will look at helping tibbs, but not before next week * redi Volunteers to understand macros and write up a draft for using them. * tibbs * redi will look at helping tibbs, but not before next week * tibbs to paste bits of test agreed on together in the writeup. * tibbs to allow new members to alter wiki * **UNASSIGNED** * Modernize R guidelines (+1:5, 0:0, -1:0) * Agreed on some wording changes for building docs packages separately (+1:5, 0:0, -1:0) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * geppetto (94) * tibbs (88) * mhroncok (70) * redi (26) * decathorpe (25) * zodbot (15) * orc_fedo (5) * Rathann (3) * racor (2) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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Schedule for Thursday's FPC Meeting (2018-04-12 16:00 UTC)
by James Antill 12 Apr '18

12 Apr '18

Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FPC meeting Thursday at 2018-04-12 16:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 on irc.freenode.net. Local time information (via. uitime): ================= Day: Thursday ================== 2018-04-12 09:00 PDT US/Pacific 2018-04-12 12:00 EDT --> US/Eastern <-- 2018-04-12 16:00 UTC UTC 2018-04-12 17:00 BST Europe/London 2018-04-12 18:00 CEST Europe/Berlin 2018-04-12 18:00 CEST Europe/Paris 2018-04-12 21:30 IST Asia/Calcutta ---------------- New Day: Friday ----------------- 2018-04-13 00:00 HKT Asia/Hong_Kong 2018-04-13 00:00 +08 Asia/Singapore 2018-04-13 01:00 JST Asia/Tokyo 2018-04-13 02:00 AEST Australia/Brisbane Links to all tickets below can be found at: https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issues?status=Open&tags=meeting = Followups = #topic #691 noarch *sub*packages with arch-specific dependencies .fpc 691 https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issue/691 #topic #693 Wiki:Packaging:RPMMacros .fpc 693 https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issue/693 #topic #694 Packaging guidelines for application independence .fpc 694 https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issue/694 #topic #702 C/C++ guidelines should say using clang needs an exception .fpc 702 https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issue/702 #topic #708 Allocating a static uid and gid for openvswitch .fpc 708 https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issue/708 #topic #710 Ruby packaging guidelines update .fpc 710 https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issue/710 #topic #713 Forward-looking conditionals by default .fpc 713 https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issue/713 #topic #714 let's kill file deps! .fpc 714 https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issue/714 #topic #715 Separately building package documentation .fpc 715 https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issue/715 #topic #719 Simplify packaging of forge-hosted projects .fpc 719 https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issue/719 #topic #723 Guidelines for handling deprecated dependencies during review .fpc 723 https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issue/723 #topic #726 Review for SELinux Independent Policy packaging Draft .fpc 726 https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issue/726 = New business = #topic #761 Modernize R guidelines .fpc 761 https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issue/761 = Open Floor = For more complete details, please visit each individual ticket. The report of the agenda items can be found at: https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issues?status=Open&tags=meeting If you would like to add something to this agenda, you can reply to this e-mail, file a new ticket at https://pagure.io/packaging-committee , e-mail me directly, or bring it up at the end of the meeting, during the open floor topic. Note that added topics may be deferred until the following meeting.

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Subpackaging the Noto CJK fonts
by Jens-Ulrik Petersen 11 Apr '18

11 Apr '18

For Fedora 28 we have Changes to make Google Noto CJK fonts the default for Chinese, Japanese and Korean. This provides a number of advantages include new Serif faces, and Mono fonts for terminals etc. However it comes at a cost: there are 7 weights for each of the Sans and Serif fonts for each of the four languages. Additionally the Mono fonts are only available in very large CJK coverage versions. See https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1562315 and https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/46 for size details. We would like to propose an exception for google-noto-cjk-fonts for Fedora 28 where we will subpackage the extra weight variants to save a lot of space on the Live images and other media. This will reduce Live images by about 250MB or more by only shipping the Regular and Bold weights, or even more if we only shipped Regular. Otherwise we will see a big impact on iso sizes across the distro which could aversely affect the release. For Fedora 29 we plan to move to the more compact OpenType Collection version of the fonts which will provide a considerable saving, but it seems too late to make a such a big change now for F28. Since East Asian fonts are so large, I think it makes sense to have a packaging exception for CJK fonts to allow the subpackaging of weight variants: it could be done with metapackages to make it more obvious (we could even do one package per weight and have a meta package that pulls them all in, if that makes it more clear and discoverable). Jens

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