packaging August 2016

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why the Group tag is obsolete ?
by Sérgio Basto 31 Aug '16

31 Aug '16

Hi, A year ago, I learned that Group tag is obsolete [1] I remember ask the reason and is something about comps.xml that I don't remember neither find on google , but for projects that still use repoview, Group tag is needed. So the questions are, have we any replacement for repoview ? or another way to show one repo content ? and why the Group tag is obsolete ? can someone remind me why. And how we now the group of one package ? . Thanks. [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1239067#c1 -- Sérgio M. B.

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messages printed by ./configure are reordered by mock in build.log
by Basin Ilya 26 Aug '16

26 Aug '16

Hi. I tried to compare build.log from running mock with the output from directly running rpmbuild. rpmbuild: checking how to run the C preprocessor... gcc -E checking for an ANSI C-conforming const... yes checking for inline... inline build.log: checking how to run the C preprocessor... yes checking for an ANSI C-conforming const... gcc -E yes checking for inline... checking for grep that handles long lines and -e... /usr/bin/grep checking for egrep... /usr/bin/grep -E checking for ANSI C header files... inline It looks like mock is forcibly redirecting stdout and stderr through two different pipes and a race condition happens. The problem is the same as in many IDEs. Please, please, make this redirection optional.

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Summary/Minutes from today's FPC Meeting (2016-08-25 16:00 - 17:40 UTC)
by James Antill 25 Aug '16

25 Aug '16

====================== #fedora-meeting-1: fpc ====================== Meeting started by geppetto at 16:00:49 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2016-08-25/fpc.2016- 08-25-16.00.log.html . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll Call (geppetto, 16:00:50) * Schedule (geppetto, 16:04:50) * LINK: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/packaging@lists.fedor aproject.org/message/S2JZSCRAQIC5CSKLY55BLIE37R44NRF4/ (geppetto, 16:04:52) * #635 FC Automatic Provides for Python RPM Packages (geppetto, 16:05:04) * ACTION: Explain how the version requirements work if the macros are generating two requires/Buildrequires each?? (geppetto, 17:01:19) * #645 Clarify policy on obsoleting non-directly-replaced packages (geppetto, 17:03:45) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_remove_a_package_at_end_of_li fe (tibbs, 17:08:45) * ACTION: Rathann talks to fesco about it (geppetto, 17:24:15) * Obvious possabilities are: "obsoleted-packages" package; metadata from pkgdb; use "yum list distro-extras" logic. (geppetto, 17:25:48) * Open Floor (geppetto, 17:30:14) Meeting ended at 17:40:49 UTC. Action Items ------------ * Explain how the version requirements work if the macros are generating two requires/Buildrequires each?? * Rathann talks to fesco about it Action Items, by person ----------------------- * Rathann * Rathann talks to fesco about it * **UNASSIGNED** * Explain how the version requirements work if the macros are generating two requires/Buildrequires each?? People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * tibbs (116) * geppetto (96) * Rathann (81) * adamw (44) * mbooth (43) * zodbot (24) * limburgher (5) * jreznik (4) * racor (3) * orionp (2) * mboddu (1) * athos (1) * Southern_Gentlem (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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Schedule for Thursday's FPC Meeting (2016-08-25 16:00 UTC)
by James Antill 24 Aug '16

24 Aug '16

Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FPC meeting Thursday at 2016-08-25 16:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 on irc.freenode.net. Local time information (via. rktime): 2016-08-25 09:00 Thu US/Pacific PDT 2016-08-25 12:00 Thu US/Eastern EDT 2016-08-25 16:00 Thu UTC <- 2016-08-25 17:00 Thu Europe/London BST 2016-08-25 18:00 Thu Europe/Paris CEST 2016-08-25 18:00 Thu Europe/Berlin CEST 2016-08-25 21:30 Thu Asia/Calcutta IST ------------------new day---------------------- 2016-08-26 00:00 Fri Asia/Singapore SGT 2016-08-26 00:00 Fri Asia/Hong_Kong HKT 2016-08-26 01:00 Fri Asia/Tokyo JST 2016-08-26 02:00 Fri Australia/Brisbane AEST Links to all tickets below can be found at: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/report/13 = Followups = #topic #558 Application/Library distinction and package splitting .fpc 558 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/558 #topic #610 Packaging guidelines: Check upstream tarball signatures .fpc 610 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/610 #topic #645 Clarify policy on obsoleting non-directly-replaced packages .fpc 645 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/645 = New business = #topic #635 FC Automatic Provides for Python RPM Packages .fpc 635 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/635 = Open Floor = For more complete details, please visit each individual ticket. The report of the agenda items can be found at: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/report/13 If you would like to add something to this agenda, you can reply to this e-mail, file a new ticket at https://fedorahosted.org/fpc, e-mail me directly, or bring it up at the end of the meeting, during the open floor topic. Note that added topics may be deferred until the following meeting.

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Build multilib gcc RPMs for both i686 and x86_64 in just one step
by Basin Ilya 24 Aug '16

24 Aug '16

Hi. I need to build gcc RPMs from source including libgcc.i686 and libstdc++.i686 I don't want to run rpmbuild or mock twice with different arch argument. One is long enough. Besides, the build directory already contains all the needed files after %build phase: ./obj-x86_64-redhat-linux/x86_64-redhat-linux/32/libstdc++-v3/src/.libs/libstdc++.so.6.0.22 ./obj-x86_64-redhat-linux/x86_64-redhat-linux/32/libgcc/32/libgcc_s.so.1 The spec file from gcc-6.1.1-2.fc24.src.rpm suggests some support for that. It has multilib_64_archs and multilib_32_arch macros, but I don't know how to use them.

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Python PEP 440 and RPM Versions
by Simo Sorce 24 Aug '16

24 Aug '16

I have been searching the web to see if we have any hard and fast rule on converting the PEP 440 version names into an RPM NVR that will allow correct upgrades when a Python package is released. In particular in PEP 440 the following ordering is true: 0.2.dev1 < 0.2.a1 < 0.0.b1 < 0.2.rc1 == 0.2.c1 < 0.2 == 0.2.0 < 0.2.post1 I haven't found any Fedora Packaging rules or otherwise any recommendation on transforming a PEP440 package version number to an RPM NVR. The first thing that comes to mind is that the above numbers become r respectively: 0.2.dev1 -> name-0.2.0-0.0.dev1 0.2.a1 -> name-0.2.0-0.1.alpha1 0.2.b1 -> name-0.2.0-0.2.beta1 0.2.rc1 -> name-0.2.0-0.3.rc1 0.2.c1 -> name-0.2.0-0.3.rc1 (yes c -> rc here) 0.2 -> name-0.2.0-1 0.2.0 -> name-0.2.0-1 0.2.post1 -> name-0.2.0-1.post1 if any of the packages need bugfixes they would have to append a release number, ie a patch on post1 would result in name-0.2.0-1.post1.1 Does this make sense ? Should it be written down/agreed/discussed anywhere/somewhere else ? Simo. -- Simo Sorce * Red Hat, Inc * New York

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Summary/Minutes from today's FPC Meeting (2016-08-18 16:00 - 16:45 UTC)
by James Antill 18 Aug '16

18 Aug '16

====================== #fedora-meeting-1: fpc ====================== Meeting started by geppetto at 16:01:23 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2016-08-18/fpc.2016- 08-18-16.01.log.html . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll Call (geppetto, 16:01:23) * Schedule (geppetto, 16:12:46) * LINK: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/packaging@lists.fedor aproject.org/message/FOSFRX4AIDSRLESZBYXRYAOUV2WXJFPF/ (geppetto, 16:12:48) * Open Floor (geppetto, 16:12:52) * #645 Clarify policy on obsoleting non-directly-replaced packages (geppetto, 16:14:57) * ACTION: Can you write a concrete proposal, that we could vote on, so we aren't discussing trying to solve the wrong problem. (geppetto, 16:40:29) * Open Floor (geppetto, 16:40:44) Meeting ended at 16:44:30 UTC. Action Items ------------ * Can you write a concrete proposal, that we could vote on, so we aren't discussing trying to solve the wrong problem. Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * Can you write a concrete proposal, that we could vote on, so we aren't discussing trying to solve the wrong problem. People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * geppetto (59) * tibbs (47) * Rathann (26) * zodbot (11) * racor (7) * orionp (3) * limburgher (3) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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Schedule for Thursday's FPC Meeting (2016-08-19 16:00 UTC)
by James Antill 17 Aug '16

17 Aug '16

Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FPC meeting Thursday at 2016-08-19 16:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 on irc.freenode.net. Local time information (via. rktime): 2016-08-19 09:00 Fri US/Pacific PDT 2016-08-19 12:00 Fri US/Eastern EDT 2016-08-19 16:00 Fri UTC <- 2016-08-19 17:00 Fri Europe/London BST 2016-08-19 18:00 Fri Europe/Paris CEST 2016-08-19 18:00 Fri Europe/Berlin CEST 2016-08-19 21:30 Fri Asia/Calcutta IST ------------------new day---------------------- 2016-08-20 00:00 Sat Asia/Singapore SGT 2016-08-20 00:00 Sat Asia/Hong_Kong HKT 2016-08-20 01:00 Sat Asia/Tokyo JST 2016-08-20 02:00 Sat Australia/Brisbane AEST Links to all tickets below can be found at: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/report/13 = Followups = #topic #558 Application/Library distinction and package splitting .fpc 558 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/558 #topic #566 RPM file triggers .fpc 566 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/566 #topic #610 Packaging guidelines: Check upstream tarball signatures .fpc 610 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/610 = New business = #topic #645 Clarify policy on obsoleting non-directly-replaced packages .fpc 645 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/645 = Open Floor = For more complete details, please visit each individual ticket. The report of the agenda items can be found at: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/report/13 If you would like to add something to this agenda, you can reply to this e-mail, file a new ticket at https://fedorahosted.org/fpc, e-mail me directly, or bring it up at the end of the meeting, during the open floor topic. Note that added topics may be deferred until the following meeting.

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Packages that support both linked and header only?
by Dave Johansen 11 Aug '16

11 Aug '16

I'm working on packaging the fmt library [1] and it provides both linked and header only use. My initial thought was to not package the header only files, but it has been requested. I was planning on putting the header only files in *-static to match the spirit of the guidelines [2]. Is that the best way to handle this? Also, can I include the *.h files in both *-devel and *-static or will that conflict cause problems? Thanks, Dave [1]: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1350143 [2]: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines?rd=Packaging/Guidelines…

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Summary/Minutes from today's FPC Meeting (2016-08-11 16:00 - 16:55 UTC)
by James Antill 11 Aug '16

11 Aug '16

====================== #fedora-meeting-1: fpc ====================== Meeting started by geppetto at 16:00:36 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2016-08-11/fpc.2016- 08-11-16.00.log.html . Meeting summary --------------- * Schedule (geppetto, 16:09:10) * LINK: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/packaging@lists.fedor aproject.org/message/FZWRWHLWLIXX77SODQYQBEQIQRTK7EMF/ (geppetto, 16:09:14) * #641 Proposal to improve wiki page of cmake packaging (geppetto, 16:09:30) * ACTION: Need a real draft (geppetto, 16:14:53) * ACTION: Out-of-src-tree suggestion won't work for all packages. (geppetto, 16:15:14) * ACTION: - rpath sed is rejected (orionp, 16:18:20) * #642 Clarify in the packaging guidelines that the "nobody" user is not OK to use for system daemons (geppetto, 16:19:29) * ACTION: Clarify guidelines to not use "nobody" userid for daemons (+1:7, 0:0, -1:0) (geppetto, 16:25:02) * #643 Exceptions for bootstrapping Rust and Cargo (geppetto, 16:25:11) * ACTION: Exceptions for bootstrapping Rust and Cargo (+1:7, 0:0, -1:0) (geppetto, 16:31:19) * #644 Allow %systemd_ordering to be used (geppetto, 16:31:31) * ACTION: Allow %systemd_ordering to be used (+1:6, 0:1, -1:0) (geppetto, 16:47:42) * Open Floor (geppetto, 16:48:03) Meeting ended at 16:54:40 UTC. Action Items ------------ * Need a real draft * Out-of-src-tree suggestion won't work for all packages. * - rpath sed is rejected * Clarify guidelines to not use "nobody" userid for daemons (+1:7, 0:0, -1:0) * Exceptions for bootstrapping Rust and Cargo (+1:7, 0:0, -1:0) * Allow %systemd_ordering to be used (+1:6, 0:1, -1:0) Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * Need a real draft * Out-of-src-tree suggestion won't work for all packages. * - rpath sed is rejected * Clarify guidelines to not use "nobody" userid for daemons (+1:7, 0:0, -1:0) * Exceptions for bootstrapping Rust and Cargo (+1:7, 0:0, -1:0) * Allow %systemd_ordering to be used (+1:6, 0:1, -1:0) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * geppetto (77) * tibbs (24) * zodbot (17) * limburgher (14) * orionp (11) * Rathann (9) * rdieter (7) * racor (5) * mbooth (4) * mboddu (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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