java-devel December 2006

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F7 plan (gcj/java/eclipse/swt/java-gnome/fop/batik/etc)
by Mark Wielaard 12 Feb '07

12 Feb '07

Hi, I saw the following thread about F7 plans and noticed we don't have any goals for gcj/eclipse/swt/java-gnome/etc http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.advisory-board/1551 So here are some ideas, deadlines and dependencies that might be nice to look at for F7 for the various stacks that make up the fedora-devel-java world. Please reply if you are working on any of this, if I am saying something silly/wrong or if there are more stack/application issues that you think are important for F7. The "important dates" are: - January 23 - Test1 Development Freeze - February 20 - Test2 Development Freeze - March 15 - Test3 Development Freeze - Release in April Test2 is just before Fosdem. And since all features should be in by then, it would be nice to try and create a liveCD with all "our features" on it to show off at Fosdem (Feb 24/25, Brussel, Belgium). - 1.5 language & library support in gcj This seems to be the biggest and most intrusive upgrade. But starting this early seems like a very good idea. Upstream is cleaning up some last issues. And it needs lots of testing. Would be good if something can be cooked up for Test1. Needs help from gcc-toolchain people. - Separate libgcj-rpm. Would be really nice so we can update the core class libraries separate from the core gcc compilers. Should also help with updates/dependencies since libgcj provides the mozilla plugin now and the awt libraries depend on gtk+. Would be nice if this can be done before Test2 so we can test an upgrade. Again needs help from gcc-toolchain people. - java-gcj-compat The biggest issue with this, if the 1.5-stack goes through is that gjdoc isn't 1.5 safe. If we cannot easily update gjdoc, then maybe sinjdoc could be investigated as replacement. http://www.cag.lcs.mit.edu/~cananian/Projects/GJ/#sinjdoc (Do we also need updates for javap and javah replacements?) - eclipse/swt/rcp stack 3.2 seems already good to go, and 3.3 will not come out till the middle of 2007. Azureus, RSSOwl also already seem updated. Andrew Overholt already has written down some plans for the future: http://overholt.ca/wp/?p=76 Maybe some work can be done to support the JDWP work in libgcj to get a little debugging going? And it would be nice to make sure that the ecj from eclipse and that from the gcj 1.5-stack match up. - java-gnome There are some rumors about a upgrade/rewrite, but nothing concrete as far as I have seen. If there is a rewrite that might cause some extra work for applications like Frysk. - gcj-compiled DocBook toolchain It seems we have made lots of progress with FOP and Batik since the last discussion about this: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.documentation/4582 Does anybody know where we are with that at this time? Would be nice to coordinate with the fedora-docs-list if we can provide something. - jpackage. Does it make sense to upgrade all packages to jpp 1.7 if the 1.5-stack goes in? - OpenOffice 2.2 Listed here since it does have some parts written in java. 2.2 comes out end of February. Probably needs retesting with the gcj-stack. I don't know if there are new java language/library dependencies. Some things that would be nice, but that are probably a lot of work, maybe better left for Fedora *, unless someone volunteers of course! :) - OpenJDK Still lots missing. Hopefully at Fosdem we will learn a bit more about the encumberments and when which parts of the core libraries will be liberated fully. But it might be nice to see if javac could be packaged. Or maybe a brave soul make hotspot work with classpath? - PhoneME/CACAO/MIDPath/J2MEPolish The Micro Edition world seems to really have gotten a boost from the GPL release of PhoneME. A lot of this is pretty early access. But it would be nice to have parts of this supported to show that Fedora is also a nice platform to developer for java-based mobile devices. - JBoss application server, SEAM stack Not tried yet. Parts like tomcat are already packaged. If we can get the 1.5-stack going it makes sense to look at this a bit closer. Maybe other parts can be lifted from jpackage? - Netbeans I tried this recently, but it seems still very tight to the Sun java implementation and I was unable to fully start it up on the free stack. But some dependencies like JavaHelp have been liberated (gpl+exception) now (and entered jpackage recently). Also it isn't clear whether the current license (CDDL) is acceptable (it seems unacceptable to Debian). - JOGL and WW2D should work, but I haven't done any testing recently. - japitools should really be packaged and somehow be tied in with the build system so developers/packagers can get an easy overview of whether or not a library upgrade is binary compatible or not. I am sure there is a lot missing. And as you saw none of the items above have real deadlines or people responsible, etc. So please feel free to reply with corrections add those yourself :) Cheers, Mark

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Does anyone have working JacORB packages for FC6?
by Kevin Kofler 03 Jan '07

03 Jan '07

Does anyone on this list have working JacORB packages for FC6 (using the Free Java stack, i.e. GCJ etc.)? I'm interested in JacORB because a class I'm taking at the university uses it. I tried building a package by: * reconstructing the no longer available jacorb-2.2-3jpp_8fc: - I started from jacorb-2.2-3.1mdk, which is essentially jacorb-2.2-3jpp_3fc - I removed the stuff apparently added by Mandriva (changelog entry, conditionalization of GCJ support) - I applied all the patches from the fedora-cvs-commits list leading up to 8fc - I fixed the whitespace in the GCJ 4.1 patch so it actually applies, because the mailing list software mangled the tabs in the patch to spaces * bumping the release, ending up with this: http://www.tigen.org/kevin.kofler/pcprogs/jacorb-2.2-3jpp.9.fc6.nosrc.rpm (This is an 8 KB nosrc RPM, I didn't include the source tarball for space reasons.) Unfortunately, this _does not build_ under FC6. Judging from the error output, it tries to use the wrong org.omg.CORBA classes (the libgcj ones), and I can't seem to fix that. I verified that the gcj41 patch is applied, I tried setting both classpath and bootclasspath, and also adding this: <compilerarg value="-endorseddirs"/> <compilerarg value="${dirs.base}/classes"/> None of that works. So help from the experts would be appreciated. Kevin Kofler

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Reporting gcj bugs
by Paul F. Johnson 29 Dec '06

29 Dec '06

Hi, I'm using gcj to compile some java and I'm not getting the results I'd expect out. Do I file this as usual in BZ or should I check here first if it's an oddity which doesn't need reporting? TTFN Paul -- "Mmmmmmmm....Shakira geschmiert mit schokolade" sagt Homer

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How to get the latest j2ee and jpackage to play together?
by Charles Curley 20 Dec '06

20 Dec '06

How does one get the latest Sun j2ee and jpackage to play together? I can find writeups for the Sun jdk, but don't seem to find any for j2ee. I think I want "JDK 5.0 Update 9 with Java EE" on http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/index_jdk5.jsp. Thank you. -- Charles Curley /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign Looking for fine software \ / Respect for open standards and/or writing? X No HTML/RTF in email http://www.charlescurley.com / \ No M$ Word docs in email Key fingerprint = CE5C 6645 A45A 64E4 94C0 809C FFF6 4C48 4ECD DFDB

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Re: Fwd: Error in running mgnt target on Linux.
by Andrew Overholt 15 Dec '06

15 Dec '06

Hi, * Bhupendra Bhardwaj <bhupendra229(a)gmail.com> [2006-12-14 18:41]: > Other than the jar files(compilation dependencies), the platform > specific files for runtime (dll, so etc) will be required. Those > runtime bundles should also be available to download, if we want to > package everything together. The SWT DSOs are *in* the SWT fragment (platform-specific part of the plugin ... the org.eclipse.swt.gtk.linux.x86_<blah>.jar) and will be extracted at run-time. If you're going to package this up as an RPM for your Fedora/RHEL users, you'll want to depend upon eclipse-rcp instead of bundling the runtime. Look at the RSSOwl or Azureus specfiles in Fedora Extras CVS [1] for examples. Those aren't strict RCP apps, but they're close and will give you something to work from. Andrew [1] http://cvs.fedora.redhat.com

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Re: Fwd: Error in running mgnt target on Linux.
by Andrew Overholt 14 Dec '06

14 Dec '06

Hi, On Thu, 2006-12-14 at 18:32 +0000, Bhupendra Bhardwaj wrote: > The eclipse plugins in maven repository are available for win32 only. This seems like the root of your current problem. If you are using maven to build and it pulls its deps from some repo somewhere, then your dependencies need to be in that repo, right? However, later on you say: > The downloading of required runtime binary from eclipse is required > because the platform specific eclipse plugins are not available in > maven repository, so we can't pachage everything together for all > platforms using maven. So what if they *were* in the maven repo? Would it be able to do per-arch/os/ws builds? SWT -- and by extension RCP -- is platform-dependent. How does maven handle this situation? Andrew

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Re: Error in running mgnt target on Linux.
by Andrew Overholt 14 Dec '06

14 Dec '06

On Thu, 2006-12-14 at 11:22 -0500, Carl Trieloff wrote: > > I have cross posted the lists ... we have a mgnt console that is built > on RCP and would like > to get it also working on Linux. Why is there a hard requirement on the win32 bundle? Whatever is starting the management console should determine what ws.os.arch triplet (ex. win32.win32.x86 or gtk.linux.ppc) is needed. It appears that the launcher may be hard-coding for win32. But perhaps that's just my naive reading of the situation. I don't know anything about maven. Sorry. Andrew

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Eclipse broken on Fedora 6?
by Klaasjan Brand 06 Dec '06

06 Dec '06

Hi, I've just found out Eclipse hangs on Fedora 6 when triggering the native GTK file open dialog (when using "open file" or browsing directories). Happens on GCJ or Sun JDK 1.5 with both Fedora Eclipse and eclipse.org versions. Anyone familiar with this problem? Suggestions where it should be reported? thanks, Klaasjan Brand

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src.zip's and rpms in Eclipse
by Phil Muldoon 06 Dec '06

06 Dec '06

Andrew Overholt suggested I ask here for help with this. One of the really neat things about developing any Java program using Classpath in Fedora is the integration of Classpath source in the rpm, and how it integrates with Eclipse. This is great as it allows you to browse the Classpath code under the api with F3 (or Right Click->Open Declaration). We'd like to do the same for Java-GNOME and Frysk. Is there a Wiki page, guide .. or general advice to accomplish this as it is done via the Classpath rpm? Regards Phil Muldoon

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wiki page for Fedora Eclipse packaging tasks
by Benjamin Konrath 05 Dec '06

05 Dec '06

Hi, I just created a wiki page for packaging tasks that need to be done for the Eclipse Linux Project: http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/Linux_Packaging_Tasks There is a section for Fedora Eclipse and for common tasks. Any help with with these tasks would be appreciated, just add a note to let everyone know what task you plan on doing. Also, feel free to add tasks / ideas as you see fit. To edit the wiki page, just use your eclipse.org bugzilla account. Thanks, Ben

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