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Sunday morning Question re: Desk Top ??
by Bill Case 30 Aug '09

30 Aug '09

Hi; I have been following the thread "Can we have different desktop backgrounds for different workspaces?" with interest. I have started a new thread because I have a question or topic that is related but a bit different. I am using Gnome for my desktop. For the last 2 or 3 years I have been looking for a way to setup my desktop so that I could have different backgrounds/wallpaper and launchers in different work spaces. Particularly I would like one set of wallpaper and launchers on what I might designate as my "play' area and a different setup for a "work" workspace. For example: A "play" workspace would consist of something like a background with favourite photograph(s) and launchers for tv, radio, volume, other media and a 'home' icon that had a path to my personal files. I expect the 'play' area somewhat filled with a messy variety of launchers. A "work" workspace would be sparse, clean, with a solid colour background for easy reading. When I work I want a choice of just a few launchers which I use regularly placed exactly where I know how to find them with either the mouse or keyboard. And, a Home icon that I could setup with a path that leads to my directory(s) where I keep various work projects. I would like to be able to move back and forth between "play" and "work" workspaces using the workspace switcher. Other people might have other choices. They might want a 'home' workspace as well as a 'photography' workspace, or, a 'business' workspace, or a 'writer's' workspace, or a 'programming' workspace. I have tried opening a second 'work' user, but then common functions like email, internet browsing and jotters are not available to both users. I would like to maintain the easy, single user, inter-workspace communication. It is really just the launchers and background that I want to change. It would be no different than running programs as a single user. Sleeping and running processes would remain the same. I would keep the panels (particularly 'Window List' app). For those of you who are familiar with Gnome; How difficult would it be to build an addon or plugin for the workspace app so that when I changed workspaces a different desktop i.e. ~/Desktop2, and ~/Wallpaper2, would open and replace Desktop1 and Wallpaper1? I have looked over the Gnome Developers site. I am not looking for any instructions at this point, but any major gotcha's or considerations to think about before I even begin a project of that size would be helpful. -- Regards Bill Fedora 11, Gnome 2.26.3 Evo.2.26.3, Emacs 23.1.1

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Re: USB-printer sharing [SOLVED]
by Hiisi 30 Aug '09

30 Aug '09

> Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 09:45:39 +0400 > From: Hiisi <very-cool(a)rambler.ru> > Subject: Re: USB-printer sharing > To: <fedora-list(a)redhat.com> > Message-ID: <606154262.1248673539.158507996.71865(a)mcgi30.rambler.ru> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" > > > Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 17:08:20 -0400 > > From: Sam Varshavchik <mrsam(a)courier-mta.com> > > Subject: Re: USB-printer sharing > > To: Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora. > > <fedora-list(a)redhat.com> > > Message-ID: > > <cone.1248642500.655291.10106.500(a)commodore.email-scan.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > > Hiisi writes: > > > > > Dear Fedora folks! > > > I'm trying to setup home server using F11 desktop. The computer has > 3 > > > Ethernet devices (1 integrated on motherboard and 2 additional in > > > PCI-slots). It's connected to the Internet via eth0 and shares > network > > > for Windows laptop on eth1 using NAT. This part works grate. > Currently > > > I'm trying to share HP DeskJet-3650 USB printer, connected to the > main > > > desktop. I installed and started samba and tuned printer through > > > CUPS-gui at http://localhost:631. > > > > Samba is not required to print from Windows XP client via CUPS. > > > > > Then I installed network printer > > from > > > laptop's WinXP-gui as > http://<F11desktopIP>:631/printers/deskjet-3600 > > > > How did you obtain this URL. > > > > The best way to obtain the URL is to simply open > > http://server:631/printers > > > > The main page contains a link for all installed printers. Open the > link > > for > > your printer, and the resulting URL is the URL that Windows XP should > be > > configured to use. > > That is exactly how I did. > > > > > > There wasn't exactly my printer model, so I choose HP DeskJet driver > > > > This is very unlikely. HP not shipping a Windows driver for your > printer > > is > > just as likely as me winning the lottery. You most certainly have the > > drivers for your HP printer on a CD. After you've specified the URL > when > > setting up the CUPS printer in Windows XP, you'll be asked to select a > > driver. Select the appropriate driver from the CD. The last component > of > > the > > CUPS URL has absolutely nothing to do with the driver name. > > > It seems this time you won the race! There's a lot of models, but not my > printer. So, I choose HP DeskJet without any model. > Now I have either error in the error log or 'success' entry, but nothing > happens (no printing made). Is it Window$ bug or something? > -- > Hiisi. > Registered Linux User #487982. Be counted at: http://counter.li.org/ > > Hi, folks! Today I discovered solution for my relatively old problem of sharing USB-printer with windows machine via network. I was vainly searching for solution in CUPS configuration when the actual problem [as usual] was on window$ side. So, here's my receipt (for those who demand): Step 1: Configure your printer using CUPS-web-interface. To do that open http://localhost:631/ And don't forget to check 'Share This Printer' at some step! Step 2: On window$ machine install new printer selecting 'Network type' and provide URI: http://<YourFedoraMachineIP>:631/printers/<YourPrinterName>. As mentioned above, the URI is the result of opening your printer' page in CUPS-web-interface. And (here goes the solution of my problem) select on window$ machine 'Generic' as the manufacturer and 'MS Publisher Imagesetter' as the driver for the printer. That's all! Now THEY can print from their window$ machines. Respectfully -- Hiisi. Registered Linux User #487982. Be counted at: http://counter.li.org/

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firefox/thunderbird doesn't render accented characters
by Mike Wright 30 Aug '09

30 Aug '09

Hi all, Currently using f10, although I can't say for certain on which version this problem appeared. Both firefox and thunderbird replace accented text with a black-backgrounded question mark. If I wget these files the characters display correctly. If I save them from either of the mozilla apps the files are saved with the replaced characters instead of the originals. View source on firefox is useless because even the source is mangled but with thunderbird I can see replacements such as these: =A0, =B9, =E6. Just in case those get mangled they are "equal-sign capital A zero", "equal-sign capital B nine", "equal-sign capital E six". I've tried setting character encoding to utf-8, utf-16, iso-8859-1, iso-8859-15, windows-1252 with no effect. This is particularly horrible on the mailing lists where an email will display properly but when replied-to arrives mangled with black blotches throughout. The longer the thread the more black appears until it reaches a point where it is not even worth attempting to read it anymore. Does anybody know what this is about and what I can do to remedy the situation? Thanks for any help, Mike Wright

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[OT] Run LiveUSB on machine that can't boot from usbkey?
by mike cloaked 30 Aug '09

30 Aug '09

I have an old laptop that I use for testing new versions of Fedora - however although it will boot of a physical CD containing a LiveCD (say of F12 Alpha), it is old enough not to be able to boot off usb devices since the BIOS is not arranged to do so. So a usbkey that contains a LiveCD that works perfectly well on other machines won't play on this particular machine (Fijitsu-Siemens Amilo D 6800) Can anyone point me to a reference to work around this by booting off say an altered grub stansa in the HD which then refers to a plugged in usbkey to continue loading the LiveCD files from the usbkey? Or something similar? I usually try to avoid using optical media if possible for running both installs and testing LiveCDs. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/-OT--Run-LiveUSB-on-machine-that-can%27t-boot-from-us… Sent from the Fedora List mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

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RE: [OT] Run LiveUSB on machine that can't boot from usbkey?
by Jackson Byers 30 Aug '09

30 Aug '09

> I have an old laptop that I use for testing new versions of Fedora - however > although it will boot of a physical CD containing a LiveCD (say of F12 > Alpha), it is old enough not to be able to boot off usb devices since the > BIOS is not arranged to do so. So a usbkey that contains a LiveCD that works > perfectly well on other machines won't play on this particular machine > (Fijitsu-Siemens Amilo D 6800) > Can anyone point me to a reference to work around this by booting off say an > altered grub stansa in the HD which then refers to a plugged in usbkey to > continue loading the LiveCD files from the usbkey? Or something similar? Mike, maybe my experience with booting from an external usb disk will help. I also wasn't "able to boot off usb devices since the BIOS is not arranged to do so" [either that or I am too dense to properly fiddle with the BIOS]. So, what I did was copy the vmlinuz, initrd.img somewhere onto my internal HDisks, specifically in my case on /dev/sdb1. Here is my grub.conf stanza for f10 booting off of the 2nd partition of my usbdisk, [label rootusb2] #24...68 -> 29..78 title Fedora (2.6.27.29-170.2.78.fc10.i686)usb2new TEST bootf10usb2 vga=795 root (hd1,0) #sdb1 kernel /bootf10usb2/vmlinuz-2.6.27.29-170.2.78.fc10.i686 ro root=UUID=8f24a787-132c-4dc8-9126-9d85292e349f quiet vga=795 initrd /bootf10usb2/initrd-2.6.27.29-170.2.78.fc10.i686.img I also did this recently with an f11 hdinstall into usb3. Detail: my usb disk is seen as sdc when booted up into my my main f10 on sda1 but when this bootf10usb2 boots it is seen as sda2, i.e, disk order is reordered to usb=sda, hd1=sdb, hd2=sdc. from blkid run from my mainf10on sda1: /dev/sdc2: LABEL="rootusb2" UUID="8f24a787-132c-4dc8-9126-9d85292e349f" TYPE="ext3" However, this does not affect the "root (hd1,0)" for sdb1 ie that retains nonreorderd syntax, even though when booted up f10usb2 sees sdb1 as sdc1. This solution is not perfect of course. I can't just take this external usb as is to another computer and have this f10usb2 boot up because the kernel, initrd can't be found. HTH Jack

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add an extra ip address to fedora server (one net card)
by online.service.com＠gmail.com 29 Aug '09

29 Aug '09

Hi all, I like to add an extra ip address to my fedora server. But here is my ifcfg-eth0 file in under /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts directory DEVICE=eth0 BOOTPROTO=dhcp TYPE=Ethernet ONBOOT=yes there is no IPADDR field. Where possibly i can find "IPADDR" gets defined? Thanks!

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named chroot question
by chloe K 29 Aug '09

29 Aug '09

Hi I already stop the named and killall bind process. how can I clear the files under named/chroot/proc/ folder as those files are restricted me for tar backup? /var/named/chroot/proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/lo/accept_ra_defrtr /var/named/chroot/proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/lo/max_addresses /var/named/chroot/proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/lo/max_desync_factor /var/named/chroot/proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/lo/regen_max_retry /var/named/chroot/proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/lo/temp_prefered_lft Thank you __________________________________________________________________ Get the name you've always wanted @ymail.com or @rocketmail.com! Go to http://ca.promos.yahoo.com/jacko/

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Problems with Connection on F10
by Aaron Gray 29 Aug '09

29 Aug '09

I keep on getting problem with getting higher level connections on F10 over Ethernet. I can ping and do low level comms, but cannot get Firefox to work. The connection icon is showing a red cross what ever I do. I tried right clicking on it and clicking on the check box a number of times, recreated the connection entering the MAC address. But to no avail. This problem has been solved for me before but cannot remember the solution. Hope you can help, Aaron

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need help
by SriLatha 29 Aug '09

29 Aug '09

hi, Iam trying to install ns in fedora11. But iam getting following error. Checking for X11 header files. Cant find X includes. make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found. Stop. make: *** No rule to make target 'install'. Stop. I tried to install libX as yum install libX11-devel but unable to install after trying 256 mirrors. How can i resolve this problem? K.Srilatha Love Cricket? Check out live scores, photos, video highlights and more. Click here http://cricket.yahoo.com

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Setting up a point-to-point NIC in NetworkManager
by Bill Davidsen 29 Aug '09

29 Aug '09

How does one set up a point to point NIC in NetworkManager? Or should I go back to doing everything manually? -- Bill Davidsen <davidsen(a)tmr.com> "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot

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