On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 11:48:14AM -0500, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
1) Getting an account is seen by many people as the same as taking
an
oath of allegiance. They get angry when they only joined a group to
report some problem and then see that their joining is used in some
other promo that the groups user base has grown by N amount because
there are more registered users. They are 'CentOS' users not Fedora
users.
I have two things to say to this. First, this is a misperception. EPEL
is part of Fedora; EPEL users are Fedora users.
Second, I don't think that this is generally a problem with CentOS
users, who tend to be pragmatic rather than loyalists.
2) This belief that signing up is an oath of allegiance goes both
ways. Some Fedora packagers and users expect that any problem reported
for a package should be only 'fixed' if it shows up in the latest
Fedora release. They see that a person has a Fedora account and they
say "Why aren't you using Fedora instead of that claptrap OS."
Do you have an example of that, or is it just a worry that it *might*
happen? I know of many cases where Fedora packagers don't want to take
on the commitment of maintaining an EPEL package, but for those who
have, if this is their response, they should probably rethink that.
3) Finally Fedora and CentOS are worlds apart in what they want.
EL-6
is the largest usebase and is still growing. That means people are
wanting things that will work on Fedora 12. Many have no idea or want
to deal with containers, modules, and are just trying to get their
head around systemd which they will probably be rolling out in the
next 4 years (though some are hoping it will get replaced by Linus
with a git like better tool). Fedora people are starting to show signs
of being tired of containers and are trying to figure out the next big
thing to work on.
Sure, at least to some degree. But I don't think that's hugely relevant
to this particular thing.
Now while it would be nice to get them to talk together more.. most
of
the time the only useful conversations seem to happen over beer and
dinner.. while email lists turn into tribal fights of slights and
sarcasm.
That's probably more a matter of having gotten the right people to the
beer and dinner situation and not having done so in email.
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Matthew Miller
<mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org>
Fedora Project Leader