George N. White III writes:
> Much of Fedora is user developed. So this need not be the
case. It is
> clear from what I read over in Xfce-land that better tools are needed.
> Probably to even better migrate Gnome and KDE to Wayland.
>
> This is a bigger change than systemd and firewalld. But we made those.
We
> will be on Wayland across the board, it seems, in 5 years or less.
I'm going to reserve the right to pick at the claim that "Fedora is user
developed", if this means that what goes into Fedora depends on what
users
want.
"user developed" means stuff users want badly enough to contribute
in the form of code, patches, bug reports, and documentation.
I originally wrote a different snarky response to this, but thought better
and deleted it. I really, really didn't want to go there. Let's just say
that if I were to call for a show of hands: who, around here, actually
contributed "code, patches, bug reports, and documentation" to the project
in question? Well, that would've been one hell of a curve-ball over the
batter's box.
In fact, I'll bet more people here know exactly what I was going to say,
more people than the ones who contributed "code, patches, … and
documentation". Not sure about the bug reports, though. However: the bug
reports were met with hostile responses more often than not. So, I don't
think they should count.
I do not recall a great clamoring for some of the things that
you
mention, and notable amount of opposition from the community. But that's
a
different topic. On the subject matter of time estimates I don't see this
happening in 5 years, if at all. I'm going to go with 7-8 at the least.
If
XFCE does not support Wayland at that point, I guess that'll be the end
of
the XFCE spin.
Or earlier if some new Wayland-based project that improves on XFCE (together
with English translation of the docs from the author's native language!)
gains
traction.
That's an interesting thought experiment: what would be the chances of the
Wayland stake-holders going out and choosing to contribute to XFCE's
migration to Wayland?