On 06/02/18 17:09, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Fri, 2018-06-01 at 21:45 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> On 06/01/2018 09:32 PM, John Morris wrote:
>> On Fri, 2018-06-01 at 11:30 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote:
>>
>>> You did online updates? This is the reason why offline updates is the
>>> default now, because doing updates without a reboot can cause weird
>>> situations like this.
>> Ok, you maniacs finally did it, you made a Linux suck as hard as
>> Windows. I'm out.
> Seriously? This discussion comes up regularly. In most cases online
> updates work, but sometimes there are issues. Read the past threads for
> more info, but it's an extremely hard problem to make it always work for
> very obvious reasons when you think about what's happening.
I rely on tracer (using the dnf plugin) to tell me when I need to
reboot. Are you saying this is unreliable?
Where did Sam say anything about tracer?
FWIW, I don't use the tracer dnf plugin since I use the nVidia drivers from rpmfusion
and akmods. It may have been improved. But when I was using it and a kernel update
happened the tracer process would keep the rpmdb locked so when the nVidia mods were
compiled they failed to install.
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