Hi Bill,
William Case wrote:
On Mon, 2009-09-28 at 10:11 -0400, Todd Zullinger wrote:
> Have you checked the Received headers of the messages in question?
No I hadn't. I am not sure what I would be looking for.
Ahh. Well, you'd want to follow the received headers to watch as each
mail server passed the mail along. There will be date stamps. It can
often be useful to note when there is a long delay where it occurs, as
it can tell you who's system is letting the mail sit.
Let's take a look here...
a) instant re-send from fedora list.
[...]
Received: from 209.132.177.33 (EHLO
hormel.redhat.com)
(209.132.177.33)
by
mta108.rog.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with SMTP; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 13:59:52 -0700
Received: from
listman.util.phx.redhat.com (
listman.util.phx.redhat.com
[10.8.4.110]) by
hormel.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82CAA618E65;
Sun, 27 Sep 2009 16:35:15 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from
int-mx01.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com
(
nat-pool.util.phx.redhat.com [10.8.5.200]) by
listman.util.phx.redhat.com
(8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n8RKZCNU006740 for
<fedora-list(a)listman.util.phx.redhat.com>; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 16:35:12 -0400
Received: from
mx1.redhat.com (
ext-mx04.extmail.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com
[10.5.110.8]) by
int-mx01.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (8.13.8/8.13.8)
with ESMTP id n8RKZB8f011863 for <fedora-list(a)redhat.com>;
Sun, 27 Sep 2009 16:35:12 -0400
Received: from
smtp119.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com
(
smtp119.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com [68.142.224.74]) by
mx1.redhat.com
(8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id n8RKYxXu024407 for <fedora-list(a)redhat.com>;
Sun, 27 Sep 2009 16:35:00 -0400
Received: (qmail 82241 invoked from network); 27 Sep 2009 20:34:59 -0000
[...]
Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.3?)
(billlinux(a)99.245.242.191
with plain) by
smtp119.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP;
27 Sep 2009 20:34:59 -0000
The headers are generally added on top, so the last one in the list
above is you connecting to your SMTP server to send the mail. That
happened at 20:34:59 -0000 (or 16:34:59 EDT). It went from there to
another
yahoo.com server before getting to
redhat.com and winding
through the mailman listserver software and coming back out of
redhat.com to yahoo at 13:59:52 -0700 (or 16:59:52 EDT). So this had
about a 25 minute round trip.
b) 20+ hour delay re-send from fedora list.
Received: from 209.132.177.33 (EHLO
hormel.redhat.com) (209.132.177.33)
by
mta108.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 19:16:33 -0700
Received: from
listman.util.phx.redhat.com (
listman.util.phx.redhat.com
[10.8.4.110]) by
hormel.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89821619323;
Sun, 27 Sep 2009 21:14:58 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from
int-mx03.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com
(
nat-pool.util.phx.redhat.com [10.8.5.200]) by
listman.util.phx.redhat.com
(8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n8S1EsKx007371 for
<fedora-list(a)listman.util.phx.redhat.com>; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 21:14:54 -0400
Received: from
mx1.redhat.com (
ext-mx03.extmail.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com
[10.5.110.7]) by
int-mx03.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (8.13.8/8.13.8)
with ESMTP id n8S1Esu5031734 for <fedora-list(a)redhat.com>;
Sun, 27 Sep 2009 21:14:54 -0400
Received: from
smtp105.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com
(
smtp105.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.36.83]) by
mx1.redhat.com
(8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id n8S1EgDh031989 for <fedora-list(a)redhat.com>;
Sun, 27 Sep 2009 21:14:42 -0400
Received: (qmail 52082 invoked from network); 28 Sep 2009 01:14:42 -0000
[...]
Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.3?)
(billlinux(a)99.245.242.191
with plain) by
smtp105.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP;
28 Sep 2009 01:14:41 -0000
This one was sent at 01:14:41 -0000 (or 21:14:41 EDT) and arrived back
at
yahoo.com at 19:16:33 -0700 (or 22:16:33 EDT). So it only had a 1
hour delay. If it took 20 hours for you to see it, the problem surely
didn't have anything to do with the list software. It would be with
yahoo.com or something local to your system (I don't know if you're
reading this via webmail or fetching it via POP3 or IMAP).
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