On 7/6/17 8:03 AM, Rick Stevens wrote:
On 07/05/2017 02:41 PM, Stephen Morris wrote:
> On 6/24/17 4:20 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:
>> On 06/23/2017 11:08 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:
>>> On 06/23/2017 05:39 PM, Stephen Morris wrote:
>>>> Having mentioned the TB subject, I also have "problems" with
the
>>>> upstream versions of TB I use when interacting with this mail list.
>>>> TB has "reply", "reply all" and "reply
list", where "reply all"
>>>> works as expected, whereas if I use "reply" to say respond to
your
>>>> email then that build the reply to send it to you and not the
>>>> mailing list, so to reply to the mailing list I have to use "reply
>>>> list", and I have never been able to work out why and whether its a
>>>> mailing list issue or a TB issue.
>>> It seems to be a recent change to the list that the reply-to is now
>>> set to the original sender instead of the list address. But thanks
>>> to you mentioning the reply to list option in TB, I just noticed that
>>> button and then found the shortcut key is CTRL-SHIFT-L for that. I
>>> will train myself to use that in future.
>> I just checked the email headers and the reply-to still points to the
>> list! I have discovered that it is a change in TB after all. That is
>> rather annoying. See
>>
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/52.0/releasenotes/ :
>>
>> "When replying to a mailing list, reply will be sent to address in
>> From header ignoring Reply-to header"
>>
>> Sorry for blaming the mailing list...
> On reflecting when this occurred, it seems that it did first start
> occurring in the old version of TB mentioned in the release notes, but
> what I now need to work out is, when there are multiple entries in what
> TB shows as the To address, how TB selects the right one to reply to
> when using 'Reply to List', or whether its not using the reply to tag at
> all, and is using the List_id tag instead. I say this from looking at
> the source for Rick's reply where I noticed a reply-to tag and a List_id
> tag both referencing the mailing list address.
I wonder if "Reply List" actually picks up the "List-Post" header
(if
present) and uses that, whereas "Reply" just picks up the "From"
header.
Regardless, I'd still consider it incorrect behavior. "Reply" should use
the "Reply-To" header if present and resort to the "From" header if
"Reply-To" isn't present. Whether it's a list posting or not is
utterly
irrelevant for "Reply".
Only the "Reply List" button should care if it's a list posting or not,
and should also use the "Reply-To" header first, falling back to the
"List-Post" header and "From" headers (in that order). Why the TB
people
made such a non-intuitive (and IMHO completely wrong) change is beyond
me.
I agree with you Rick, this seems counter-intuitive to the way most mail
clients work.
Having said this though, I can't help but wonder if the mailing list
server is playing around with things, as looking at this email of yours
I can see reply-to, list-id, archived-at, list-archive, list-help,
list-post, list-subscribe and list-unsubscribe tags all of which contain
fedora addresses.
I'm using TB 56.0 and I still forget sometimes to use "Reply List".
regards,
Steve
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