On 01/02/2014 11:54 AM, Ales Kozumplik wrote:
>>
>> A question, I found the following on
>> <
http://akozumpl.github.io/dnf/cli_vs_yum.html>
>>
>> "dnf erase kernel deletes all packages called kernel
>>
>> In Yum, the running kernel is spared. There is no reason to keep this in
>> DNF, the user can always specify concrete versions on the command line,
>> e.g.:
>>
>> dnf erase kernel-3.9.4"
>>
>> So if I issue 'dnf erase kernel' all kernels will be removed, and I have
>> no kernel anymore? Is that really a good thing? Should we not spare the
>> running kernel? Or is there some rationale behind this that I am missing?
>>
>> Lars
>
> Hi Lars,
>
> yes that's the idea. In practice however, a user doesn't type 'dnf erase
> -y kernel' by accident and we don't feel the need to protect users who
> really know what they are doing from doing so.
IMO, you are plain wrong.
You've never used scripts similar to sth. like this:
rpm -qa ... | grep ... | yum remove -y
and never encountered bugs with such scripts?
IIRC, debian's apt even has blacklists (protected packages) to prevent
critical damages.
> It's the same situation
> as 'rm -rf /boot' or 'rpm -e --allmatches kernel'.
No. It is not. Think about non-bootable/broken kernels etc.
The kernel is a master piece of a package which must be allowed to be
installed in multiple instances and of which at least the running
instance must not be removed under any circumstances.
> Of course, people are
> welcome to write specific plugins to achieve something similar to what
> Yum used to do.
You don't really want to know what I think about this - It really pisses
me off. You are trying to defend a behavioral regression *you* are
reponsible for onto users.
Did Not Finish
Do Not Forget
Does Not Follow
Data Not Found
Did Not Find
Does Not Function
Do Not Freeze
Do Not Fix
Do Not Fax
Do Not Forward
Fully functional DNF is expected within Fedora XXX, A.D. MMXIX.
Let's be patient!
poma