On Sat, 2009-10-10 at 19:21 -0400, David wrote:
> On 10/10/2009 6:56 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>> On Sat, 2009-10-10 at 17:18 -0400, David wrote:
>>> As for Fedora being a GNOME *based* disto? Many, most?, of the Fedora
>>> configuration *applications* are written in the same GTK that GNOME is
>>> written in but Fedora runs just fine with only a KDE, or other,
>>> Desktop installed and without a GNOME Desktop installed at all. You
>>> will, of course, still see some libs and such as they are needed by
>>> the system applications. But no GNOME Desktop will be installed, or be
>>> available to run, *if* you tell the installer not to install a GNOME
>>> Desktop.
>>
>> I don't think that contradicts anything I've said. The fact that
"system
>> applications" need parts of a specific DE (even if no actual desktop is
>> installed) means that the distro is not DE-neutral, and once again, I
>> don't expect it to be in the current state of the art.
>
>
> One more time. The GTK2 that is used to write the system applications is
> GTK2. A programing language platform. No more and no less.
The very first sentence on
http://www.gtk.org/ is: "GTK+ is a highly
usable, feature rich toolkit for creating graphical user interfaces
which boasts cross platform compatibility and an easy to use API."
OK, so my question is *not*, as you seem to think, "why do I have to use
this when I prefer KDE?", but "why do system applications need this if
they don't have a graphical user interface?".
[...]
> All so that you can have a GTK free install without any
> of 'that nasty GNOME crap' installed.
You seem to have gotten it into your head that I have some problem with
Gnome. If you look back at this thread I think you'll realize that this
is entirely imaginary.
Marc Wilson said it much better than I have.
The applications have to be written in 'something'. These happen to be
written in GTK. And my point was that that does not make Fedora a GNOME
distribution. It appears to me that Fedora *chooses* to be a GNOME
Desktop default distro.
As for your personal feeling about GNOME? Your business. Your choice.
--
David