On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Robin Laing <Robin.Laing(a)drdc-rddc.gc.ca> wrote:
Arthur Pemberton wrote:
>
> On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 6:27 AM, Mark Haney <mhaney(a)ercbroadband.org>
> wrote:
>>
>> Tom Horsley wrote:
>>>
>>> On Wed, 07 Jan 2009 16:40:07 -0500
>>> Mark Haney wrote:
>>>
>>>> If I get one that makes sense, then I might shut up
>>>> about this, otherwise, to me NM is just re-inventing the wheel to no
>>>> purpose.
>>>
>>> It isn't merely reinventing the wheel, it is replacing the wheel with
>>> some utterly incompatible object that sometimes serves a wheel-like
>>> function while not actually working with anything that previously
>>> used wheels without extensive mods to all the former users of wheels.
>>> And, while, they were at it, they also provide absolutely no
>>> documentation about how to use the new wheel-like functionality
>>> then claim anyone who can't get it to work is just a whiner.
>>>
>> No kidding. Let me give just one more example. I installed F10 on
>> another laptop (mine). It's a Compaq Dual core AMD X2 with 8GB RAM. A
>> fresh install. I booted into it after the install (and setting up my
>> network info (wired). Logged in as myself.
>
>
> If you believe that this is something common, you really have no
> respect for the Fedora developers. I've installed Fedora 9/10 on
> several different machines now, and I have never needed to do more
> than plug in an ethernet cable to get wired working.
>
> So please have more respect for the Fedora developers and
> NetworkManager developers on this public forum. These guys have
> provided me with too much good software for me to standby have people
> needlessly disrespect their work.
>
>
I think the issue comes when you are not using DHCP as many do. If over the
years, you have used setup scripts the NM default approach is a problem.
On this fresh install I had to setup my network info in NM at first. Then I
moved to network services and turned off NM. A two step approach to get
back to the Old way.
As for network info, I found I had to edit the /etc/sysconfig/networking
manually because system-config-network kept corrupting the settings. I need
to do some testing and file a bug report.
On my desktop, I have DHCP available, but i use a static IP.
All I did was use sytem-config-network, and check 'start on boot' and
uncheck 'controlled by NM'. Does this not work for you guys?
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